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I've been out of town and not had time to check anywhere so I wonder if the Twins take is they had a great season or if people in Minnietown are furious. I know the Yankees should beat the Twins but this postseason ineptitude of theirs is embarrassing. I guess they can mock us and say they own us, but still. Either the Twins are chokers or this truly proves money buys most pennants.

Twins are the laughingstock of baseball tonight. They just are.

I just don't see how our fear of the Twins could continue after this. The Twins really are the laughingstock of baseball right now. Swept by NY again?? Please. If the White Sox are ever intimidated by these guys again and have the kind of record they had against the Twins this year, then even as an Ozzie/KW apologist I agree heads have to roll. The Twins are a laughingstock because of their postseason flameouts. There's no other way to put it. Too bad Twins. You got owned. Yes you owned us, but this has to be as painful as the Sox's pathetic effort against the Twins this year. Twins fans must be pissed/embarrassed. Or are they blaming the loss of Morneau which really is a copout.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 08:20 PM) Um, I'm kinda hoping Thome gets a World Series ring finally? Am I going to get strung up here for that? With Twins out, I'm kinda rooting for Texas. Don't know why. But then again, root for the Yankees? Gulp. QUOTE (T R U @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 08:39 PM) Yeah, its pathetic for anyone that is a Sox fan to be rooting for the Twins to win the World Series.. If you like the way their organization is run so much, go become a Twins fan.. I thought I would root for the Twins because of Thome but hell, he's not a relative of mine or anything. I just can't do it either. But I could see some people wanting Minnesota to win because of Thome. Thome has to be wondering WTF after the Twins played so well almost the entire second half (except their pathetic performance the week or so after clinching).

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 01:33 AM) I guess there's some things that get exploited more in the post season. They really don't have an ace and Thome is their long ball threat. QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 01:51 AM) They were the best team in baseball since the ASB. When teams get hot they also cool off. So their timing could be off plus they are few missing pieces away from a World Series. It's amazing they were hot the whole second half, the entire way, until they clinched. Then they finally sucked and the Sox went 9-2 down the stretch to finish only six back. I know that has nothing to do with their current faceplant, but why the f*** couldn't Minnesota have their cooling off period at some other point the second half. Unless a miracle happens, Minnesota is toast. I guess their fans can blame the loss of Morneau but they've been w/out him a long time.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 01:10 AM) Twins/Yankees is the same as White Sox/Twins, only the Twins switch roles. Exactly. 100 percent true. How many times have we led Minnesota 3-0 in a game like Game One and then had one bad inning and trailed 4-3 and had it be over. Rivera gets 4 outs in the ninth, shrugs off the bad call by the ump. If that happened to the Sox vs. Minnesota, Thome would have homered, not made an out to make the fourth out of the inning. 11 straight postseason losses. If they get beat by NY again, do they just shrug it off AGAIN and dominate the Central next year? It's kind of laughable really, but like you said, just as laughable at how we can't beat them. Baseball equal funny game. That all said I find I can't cheer for Minnesota. I hope they get eliminated ASAP. Then they can start devising ways to win our division again next year and faceplant if indeed they win it again. I wonder if Minnesota fans are mad at Gardy.

I'd rather have Teahen than Kotsay but Kotsay has a better approach at the plate. He's just too old and has lost whatever talent he once had to do anything with his approach. Teahen continues to be a guy who thinks he is a power hitter (big swing, tons of strikeouts) when he should be a line drive hitter.

Fair enough. I just like to win at all costs. This team wins 7 or 8 straight vs. the Angels, swept the Red Sox but can't buy wins over its own division. Weird.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 09:33 PM) stop trolling for arguments. This really has nothing to do with the conversation at hand and everyone knows you are just looking for someone to argue with this position I responded to this statement specifically. WTF are you talking about trolling for arguments? I won't knock it off BTW. So tell somebody else to knock it off. Or ban me. I won't be told to "knock it off." "And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers." How is responding to that line "trolling for arguments?" You either read my post wrong or you are looking for s*** to ban me on. THis is a reasonable response And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers. I don't know if rich ballplayers and managers consider worship of the fans unhealthy. They like it. Strokes their egos. And their wives like being important as well. You don't think players and their fans like being in towns where they are worshiped??

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 12:44 AM) Well, this is a troubling time to go on a winning streak. It is?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:50 PM) Don't most managers win if the team they're managing has talent? Yes. No manager can win with crap talent. I think this team had some talent, some awful baseball players/pitchers as well.

I love the way you guys think Ozzie is a buffoon. You don't think he's going to win and win big wherever he goes if the team has talent? He's no buffoon.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:09 PM) So he doesn't bleed White Sox, he bleeds money and Guillen... Fair criticism of my position. I do think he is Mr. White Sox, though. I guess I would agree he's more for himself and his family than the organization. I do think he bleeds White Sox, but he is about himself and his family ahead of that. I do think he cares about the Sox and the city though.

QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) You can't really wonder why people call you out for making posts like these. You and your hero Ozzie both seem like you are instigating chaos and digging for reactions. I think Ozzie is trying to get fired at this point. I figure that would make the Sox liable for paying his next season's salary. Whereas if he leaves on his own the Sox do not have to pay him. He only cares about himself, his family and his money. Ozzie didn't call a press conference.He's just too honest for some of your tastes. I like the honesty. He was in the dugout for the pregame interviews. He talks. That's Ozzie. I guess he could have or should have ripped the Cubs, but that's one job that's available. Why would he rule it out if he leaves here? s***, he could manage their forever like LaRussa in St. Looie. I think Ozzie wants that meeting with JR which he keeps mentioning and he wants his ego to be stroked and maybe he'll stay. I do also think he would love to be Florida manager. I'd say it's 50/50 what he wants. Of course he cares most about himself, family and money. Most former ballplayers who made a buck in the game do just that.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 02:53 PM) And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers. I don't know if rich ballplayers and managers consider worship of the fans unhealthy. They like it. Strokes their egos. And their wives like being important as well.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 07:38 AM) Ozzie can do anything and you'd love him. Just curious, what does he have to do for you to not love him? He answered the questions put to him. He's colorful, funny and a WHITE SOX!!! He bleeds for this team. And you guys want to send him packing?? He cares!!! He is a WHITE SOX! I love Ozzie.

How can you guys listen to that interview and not love Ozzie? I don't get it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 08:35 PM) That doesn't make it a better job. The White Sox are a sleeping giant. They are a team that really should dominate their division and contend every season, and with the unbalanced schedule, there really is no reason why they aren't at least wild card worthy every year. If you had confidence in your abilities, the White Sox should appeal as the better job. The Cards pay well and have "tradition." We do have a recent WS. But St. Louis is NL tradition. Also Tony fancies himself a baseball god. He likes the NL strategy.

Dick Allen you always make so much sense. Where'd you get your sense? Mama or daddy? I liked your opening. This truly is a game Oz can't win. And he would be smart to back off as he has if he wants to stay on the South Side and eat those free steak dinners downtown all the time (surely he's comped).

QUOTE (T R U @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 07:22 PM) ide rather see the Yankees sweep the playoffs and win another WS title than see the Twins win ONE game this postseason.. absolutely disgusting for anyone to root for them, in any way.. I'm starting to see the light. f*** the Twins.

Thanks southsider.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) I heard something last night that even if Ozzie left and LaRussa left St. Louis, the chances of him managing the White Sox are beyond slim. Why the hell would Tony leave St. Louis for the White Sox? It makes absolutely no sense. St. Louis is a much better job.

QUOTE (Twinsfan1965 @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 05:28 PM) Valencia will be a .280 -.290 hitter with 10-12 homeruns and 60-70 RBI'S a season. Valencia will be an average fielder. Valencia takes the pitch to right field too often to become a .200 hitter. Valencia will be a better MLB 3rd baseman then Morel. How the hell do you know Valencia will be better than Morel? You got a crystal ball? Laughing at the criticism of Gardy wearing out the bullpen. All fans second guess their managers, folks, even the great Gardy (on here) gets second guessed. But Ozzie ... he just sucks.

Good, as a hockey frontrunner I will remain on the bandwagon.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 04:00 AM) One of my biggest fears as a Sox fan after 2005 was that there would be a complete lack of accountability on the part of Sox management and indifference on some fan's part because we did something that year that no one ever thopught we would do. Since 2005, we have seen a GM make several 'who cares if it doesn't work out, I won us a world championship' trades, and a manager who make coutless careless and questionable in game moves, and when his not in-game managing, can't stop alienating fans and running off his mouth. Sad to say, these fears have been realized. Except for the Bulls, Chicago has had a tough time keeping it going after a wonderful moment. Hopefully the Blackhawks can keep winning. Are the Hawks expected to continue dominating after the offseason switches? It's kind of funny they let the goalie who won it all walk.