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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 12:44 AM) Well, this is a troubling time to go on a winning streak. It is?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:50 PM) Don't most managers win if the team they're managing has talent? Yes. No manager can win with crap talent. I think this team had some talent, some awful baseball players/pitchers as well.

I love the way you guys think Ozzie is a buffoon. You don't think he's going to win and win big wherever he goes if the team has talent? He's no buffoon.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:09 PM) So he doesn't bleed White Sox, he bleeds money and Guillen... Fair criticism of my position. I do think he is Mr. White Sox, though. I guess I would agree he's more for himself and his family than the organization. I do think he bleeds White Sox, but he is about himself and his family ahead of that. I do think he cares about the Sox and the city though.

QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) You can't really wonder why people call you out for making posts like these. You and your hero Ozzie both seem like you are instigating chaos and digging for reactions. I think Ozzie is trying to get fired at this point. I figure that would make the Sox liable for paying his next season's salary. Whereas if he leaves on his own the Sox do not have to pay him. He only cares about himself, his family and his money. Ozzie didn't call a press conference.He's just too honest for some of your tastes. I like the honesty. He was in the dugout for the pregame interviews. He talks. That's Ozzie. I guess he could have or should have ripped the Cubs, but that's one job that's available. Why would he rule it out if he leaves here? s***, he could manage their forever like LaRussa in St. Looie. I think Ozzie wants that meeting with JR which he keeps mentioning and he wants his ego to be stroked and maybe he'll stay. I do also think he would love to be Florida manager. I'd say it's 50/50 what he wants. Of course he cares most about himself, family and money. Most former ballplayers who made a buck in the game do just that.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 02:53 PM) And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers. I don't know if rich ballplayers and managers consider worship of the fans unhealthy. They like it. Strokes their egos. And their wives like being important as well.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 07:38 AM) Ozzie can do anything and you'd love him. Just curious, what does he have to do for you to not love him? He answered the questions put to him. He's colorful, funny and a WHITE SOX!!! He bleeds for this team. And you guys want to send him packing?? He cares!!! He is a WHITE SOX! I love Ozzie.

How can you guys listen to that interview and not love Ozzie? I don't get it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 08:35 PM) That doesn't make it a better job. The White Sox are a sleeping giant. They are a team that really should dominate their division and contend every season, and with the unbalanced schedule, there really is no reason why they aren't at least wild card worthy every year. If you had confidence in your abilities, the White Sox should appeal as the better job. The Cards pay well and have "tradition." We do have a recent WS. But St. Louis is NL tradition. Also Tony fancies himself a baseball god. He likes the NL strategy.

Dick Allen you always make so much sense. Where'd you get your sense? Mama or daddy? I liked your opening. This truly is a game Oz can't win. And he would be smart to back off as he has if he wants to stay on the South Side and eat those free steak dinners downtown all the time (surely he's comped).

QUOTE (T R U @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 07:22 PM) ide rather see the Yankees sweep the playoffs and win another WS title than see the Twins win ONE game this postseason.. absolutely disgusting for anyone to root for them, in any way.. I'm starting to see the light. f*** the Twins.

Thanks southsider.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) I heard something last night that even if Ozzie left and LaRussa left St. Louis, the chances of him managing the White Sox are beyond slim. Why the hell would Tony leave St. Louis for the White Sox? It makes absolutely no sense. St. Louis is a much better job.

QUOTE (Twinsfan1965 @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 05:28 PM) Valencia will be a .280 -.290 hitter with 10-12 homeruns and 60-70 RBI'S a season. Valencia will be an average fielder. Valencia takes the pitch to right field too often to become a .200 hitter. Valencia will be a better MLB 3rd baseman then Morel. How the hell do you know Valencia will be better than Morel? You got a crystal ball? Laughing at the criticism of Gardy wearing out the bullpen. All fans second guess their managers, folks, even the great Gardy (on here) gets second guessed. But Ozzie ... he just sucks.

Good, as a hockey frontrunner I will remain on the bandwagon.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 04:00 AM) One of my biggest fears as a Sox fan after 2005 was that there would be a complete lack of accountability on the part of Sox management and indifference on some fan's part because we did something that year that no one ever thopught we would do. Since 2005, we have seen a GM make several 'who cares if it doesn't work out, I won us a world championship' trades, and a manager who make coutless careless and questionable in game moves, and when his not in-game managing, can't stop alienating fans and running off his mouth. Sad to say, these fears have been realized. Except for the Bulls, Chicago has had a tough time keeping it going after a wonderful moment. Hopefully the Blackhawks can keep winning. Are the Hawks expected to continue dominating after the offseason switches? It's kind of funny they let the goalie who won it all walk.

Anybody but Teahen. I love Morel's glove. Hope he can hit a bit. Does he project to hit better than Omar would next year? Both have great gloves. Isn't it funny we dump Uribe and he would have remained a contributor?

Pretty good post since. Our pitching staff ain't done it yet.

Mixed emotions. If it is true they were mocking us in the locker room like somebody posted, then I want them to lose again. Otherwise I'd rather have them finally win it all. Change the mojo a bit for next year ... maybe.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) It bugs me a lot that Ozzie is saying this s*** during the season. One way or another, a lot of these players will be back in 2011, and it can't make them happy to see this going on while they are still playing. It would bother me less if this was November. I agree this was a peculiar one. My only defense of Ozzie is he got asked by it and didn't bring it up. But he would not be a happy manager if one of his players was doing this during the season. That actually might hurt him in dealings in the future, unless they realize it's Ozzie being Ozzie. I've read those type quotes before. But he does have a year and option year left so it's not really smart or right for him to be doing it during the season. Especially since Jerry loves him and he could go to him right after the season. It's all ego and money based which should come as no surprise though.

Great great cartoon. I don't know where you came from, but nobody on the board has ever attacked me like this. WTF. It's like I told somebody else, trust me, I'm not as dumb as you think I am.

I love the way Ozzie gave a little speech thanking the team for their efforts in trying to win the division. He then said he demanded full effort the rest of the way and if anybody had a physical problem to tell him. Manny pipes up and tells him he feels sick and can't play. Hilarious. s*** maybe it was true, but I wonder. That was all in one of the sun times articles concerning the game we played after getting eliminated by Minnie.

Hurt you have worn me out. I'll just say I think you are crazy as much as you think I am stupid and I'll leave it at that. So you win. I'm worn out. p.s. I think many of your statements are as opinionated (without fact) as much as mine (Ozzie seems to be losing it more and more, et. all) I would also like to say I do think a lot of things you've written about me have been pretty personal. The worst thing I've ever called you (or anybody) on here is in this thread, "crazy." And crazy isn't that bad a word. Some of the s*** you've tossed off the wall regarding me ... wow. I wouldn't mind others' opinions on whether I should be more mad at you than I am concerning your posts about me.

Another good Ozzie column. I agree with most of it except for his preferring KW to Ozzie. There's no comparison between the two there. Ozzie is much more valuable IMO. I actually would love to see him with the Cubs if he leaves our Sox. It would be entertaining and unlike some people who see sports as life and death, I find the entertainment value huge. For the most part, I've really enjoyed Oz's controversial rants. He always has something to say unlike 90 percent of managers. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...,2537237.column Also another excellent recent column criticizing KW http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...,6765930.column

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 04:22 AM) Do YOU ever STOP reading newspapers and actually form a coherent thought BY YOURSELF??? This is why someone is telling you that you need a course in logic. Seriously, two people agree with you? That's your argument??? I'm sorry, but your lack of any sort of logic LITERALLY makes you sound like a 9 year-old. BACK UP YOUR OWN OPINION!!! Stop throwing out empty statements because other people say things. I haven't even heard ONE thing from you about WHY you like Ozzie. I haven't heard ONE valid point to support ANYTHING you've ever said on this subject or any other. I'm sorry to be calling you out like this, but I'm going to be frank; your opinion is 100% worthless at this point because you spit in the face of facts and shoot down ideas simply because you like Ozzie... and don't even have a legitimate reason for it or for ANYTHING you say. I'm starting to think you're an android. You appear to have NO thought process whatsoever. And if you are going to complain that I'm being mean and insulting, then prove me wrong and MAKE A VALID POINT OF SOME KIND to back up SOMETHING you say. PLEASE. Jesus CHRIST... QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 04:46 AM) Uh no. Ozzie's career high is 4 home runs in a season and he managed a whole 28 in his 16 year career Pierre has a high of 3 home runs and 14 in 11 years. That's hardly more pop "by far." 1.) Calm down. I don't think everybody on here who knows me wants me to again list all the reasons why I like Ozzie. I have long ago gone into his unorthodox handling of the pitching staff in the 05 postseason, etc. His handling of players, not giving up on them, being a good manager of players and people some of the intangibles that many of you dismiss as meaningless in the world of sabermetrics. You are out of control. People get on me for stating my comments over and over as whoever put the "ad nauseum" on my name on here would suggest. I have resisted this time putting all the reasons I love Ozzie down ... again to give people a break. So I can't win as you lash out at me for not being "ad nauseum" this time. Geez. As far as the newspapers, I actually wrote my comments before checking the trib and sun times. I saw supporters on there and pointed that out to you all. Sometimes I feel like Soxtalk people's opinions are the majority. Then I read the Trib columnists who are read by millions of people and realize my positions are actually commonplace. Ozzie is popular -- some might say wildly popular and not all are people as dumb as you deem me -- whether you believe it or not. 2.) How many doubles and triples did Ozzie have compared to Juan. I guess my memory could be fading but I remember his batting stance and the way he hacked at the ball and it reminds me much more of a real hitter with gap capability than weak Juan. If I'm wrong though, I'm wrong. Finally you said "I haven't even heard ONE thing from you about WHY you like Ozzie. I haven't heard ONE valid point to support ANYTHING you've ever said on this subject or any other." I say: How long have you been on here? Seriously longtimers have read my reasons why I like Ozzie. Are you crazy? A lot do have to do with intangibles like the way he deflects criticism off his players by stealing the headlines many times. I think he also has a feel for the game, not evidenced as well this year. Those are some reasons to go with my above mentioned reasons. I think you've lost it though. I guess if you want me to list 10 specifics I can find time to write an essay of sorts for you with specific examples, etc.