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Like somebody said, what about the pitching then? The pitching as somebody pointed out has sucked in most all games except for Mark/Danks. Fire Coop as well. Ultimately KW gets the players and Oz makes the on-the-field decisions. If you want a revolving door, then fire Oz and KW and go that route.

OK, then why the f*** mention Walker? I read a story when he got extended where Oz said he puts in an incredible amount of work with these hitters. That's all he can do. He can't tell them all to hit the same way like Charlie Lau did. If we had that, people would be freaking upset as well. The bottom line is "fire the hitting coach" is a baseball cliche that will be around 50 years from now just as it was 30 years ago. Like the mod said, we have several players who don't deserve to SNIFF a big league roster. Period. When people are tempted to post about Walker they should just scream his name and NOT POST. It's a cliche to blame the hitting coach/pitching coach.

What is your point? Is Walker supposed to make all guys hit the same way? This is why players fail. If their swings suck, they are THEIR swings, they suck and they'll be out of baseball soon. We talk way too much about hitting coaches on here.

Cmon. Injuries happen. I'm sure they have the best equipment and training as everybody else.

Thankfully the banged-up Royals are sucking against teams outside of the Central of late. We are only 3 back. We need to start winning series at home and remain close to .500 on the road. We are sucking at home!

That was a great way to describe Lillibridge in your above quote. I would hate to see a stiff like Lillibridge cost Walker his job.

Wow. Those stats are amazing. Scary.

Since there's no winner thread ... Nice job Sox in finally destroying a crummy pitcher. Is Nix a good player? Signs are fairly positive. Another homer? Jimmy, way to go. Finally a Sox player destroys his old team. Seems like it's often the other way around. Maybe Lillibridge should try to miss the ball and he might hit it. Can we keep winning w/out Carlos? Hope so. He actually needed some time off heel or no heel. His slump has sucked. Backup catcher gets 2 hits? Wow. Nice. Pitching good enough. Let's beat Cliff Lee!

Looks like it's going to be one of those years, although CQ actually probably could use a week off because he's been a mess at the plate. Except we have absolutely nobody to put in for him. Lilly can't hit.

So now he's 4 of his last 18? One game can dig you quite the hole.

I do like Getz a lot. I hope he gets out of this offensive funk soon. In his last eight games, he's 5 for 32 with 3 walks and no RBIs. Immediately preceding this funk, he had seven out of eight games in which he had 2 or more hits with 6 RBIs and two walks.

Predictably, KW talking about this in the press leads to Bobby doing something about it, then admitting it when asked by the media. What players admit to throwing behind players? We lead the league in dumb. Baseball probably has to suspend Bobby for his comments.

Well, Ozzie is still "in." Since he usually tells it like he truly thinks it is, I'll believe him. We're looking at 14-18, however, with Clayton going tomorrow. Definitely not looking good with Floyd not getting ahead in the count this year.

I love Hawk but I bet he feels dumb. He just plain exploded after the ump warned Bobby. He went ballistic. I was laughing Hawk was so upset at the ump and here Bobby admits he threw behind the guy on purpose. Bobby doesn't even hit a guy and he's probably going to get suspended. Great.

I want to hear Bill James' opinion of hitting coaches because he is my guru. I tend to blame the hitters more than the coach. Walker must have a decent reputation if he's still with the team.

My sentiments exactly.

That is true. Last year's title was fun. We did suck in the playoffs, but we didn't have CQ either and it was his year.

I was watching the game Sat. night and Hawk was going off about all the starting pitching we have in our organization. Is this true? He said the Sox system was loaded with talent. What pitchers in our system can you say with 80 percent certainly will excel in the bigs?

Hopefully Thome will heat up with the weather. Four home runs with as many as bats as he's had doesn't cut it.

Two hits? My god. I wonder if anybody has kept track of all of Kenny's moves. Some have worked; some haven't. Lillibridge is a joke. He can't hit a baseball thrown by a major leaguer. And Alexi and Carlos, what the f***? Are they going to get it going? If so, when?

I prefer trading guys in the offseason if you are going to make trades. We'll get robbed for prospects during the season. And prospects ain't proven anything yet.

We looked like we belonged on the field tonight in spite of not scoring much again. We looked like a real team.

If you do that, you better get top notch quality, can't-miss prospects in return. You better be SURE they are going to be stars, because nobody is going to trade good major league players off contending teams for those guys. We'll be getting prospects.

Those fans are everything that's wrong with modern sports. Big picture is Jose helped bring us a WS title. You really are lucky to get 1-2 in a lifetime considering all the teams in baseball, the money disparity, and the luck involved in getting hot at the right time, etc. If you are a true fan with the proper perspective and Jose gets ignited like tonight, what you do is shut the f*** up, look sad, and order another beer. If you don't drink or won't pay the prices, you still sit there and shut the f*** up or bemoan the fact Ozzie/KW keep trotting him out there. Dumbass fans who give the whole park a bad name.

Middle relief or minors? What was the verdict?