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Ventura i may buy some tix if i can make it home this summer. You got good seats? I haven't been to cell in a while and it'll be less crowded this summer.

Jenks as you all said is the only candidate. If they had an all star game for name players who stunk the first half, however. On the team would be ... Paulie, Uribe, Dye, MacDougal, Iguchi, Crede, Erstad. AJ would be an alternate. Oz would be on there as a member of the coaching staff.

It's been said before by many but the retooling of our bullpen since the title season has been a major joke. I don't know what KW is going to do to fix it for the future.

Sox are so bad it's beyond belief. Of course the Sox are done.

Just curious. You are saying we basically should trade the whole team. Do you realize putting AA and AAA players on the field and the mound will mean we are the Royals for the next 10 years? Who are we going to get in return from contending teams worth a bleep? They want our players, yes, but they are not going to trade the Sox any of their good players. If you think the Sox can win with minor leaguers the next 10 years think again. The Royals have proven you can lose year after year after year.

You know what's wild? KW could make some trades that really turn us into the Royals for years to come. Mark B is one of the best pitchers in Sox history. He's about to be let go? The Cardinals better give us some damn good players for him. I mean losing Mark B and Dye will not improve this team. Are we planning on losing 110 games???? Be careful what you wish for with trades this time of year. Our minor leaguers haven't exactly come up and looked like studs. I can't believe how s*** we've become since winning it all. It's the 85 Bears revisited. It could be a long time before we contend again.

Now even Danks sucks. Man are the Sox going to have a lot of no shows at the Cell the rest of the year.

The team stunk in spring training and didn't do much of anything once the games started to count. No turning point. We were .500 for a while then the bullpen completely rotted and we started to lose or win ugly every single night.

How can a team with this kind of starting pitching be so horrible? Sad.

"The Sox don't stink anymore" was a great banner one glorious season. The Sox do stink now. What a pathetic team we have out there, injuries of course part of the problem to go with the awful reworking of the bullpen and sudden lack of home runs.

Is Mark the best pitcher in White Sox history? It's possible, isn't it? Who else might be better?

We need to do what the Yankees do and trade all our prospects for proven players. Right now we should start to rework the team by trading any decent prospects for veteran middle relievers (I know, none are available).

The Sox were not a "fluke" in 05. The baseball season is too long for any champ to be labeled a fluke. The team survived the season and dominated the postseason. It was a great team and the pitching only got better as the postseason progressed. It was perfection, not a fluke. He is a moron for saying that. No, there was no dynasty. The team was one and done, but it was not a fluke.

I think Irish is right. It's time to replan for next year. This team has only one chance to finish respectable this year. To start blasting home run after home run to go with our starting pitching. ---- Isn't it strange to have the season pretty much over in early June? Poor Thome. The Sox haven't done squat since Big Jim arrived. He doesn't deserve this.

You said it all Irish. The offense is beyond embarrassing. We're done in early June. Amazing.

Oh, it's gonna be a while. Good thing the Sox took care of business in the postseason 2 years ago. The Sox are like the 85 Bears; one and done. But at least we got the one.

Blow it up. We suck.

The problem is, what do we blow up? With injuries, we're playing Fields, Owens, Terrero. We got no minor league ss to replace Uribe do we? If we trade starters, we'll just be weak there to go with our weak bullpen. So what do we do? Trade Dye for what? Trade Mark B for what? Remember the talk of dynasty after we won it all? That seems so stupid right now.

Sorry to start a new thread but ... are you kidding me? How can this be happening? Worst bullpen in modern history?

And Dye, Thome, AJ, Uribe, Iguchi, Paulie don't suck?

Serious question. is anybody else worried that a loss tonight coupled with Cleveland's automatic win against the crap Royals has pretty much eliminated the Sox from the division race the first week of June? Are we only playing for a wild card the rest of the way? We knew the division would be tough but to be close to eliminated in June?

Now with Crede out, it only figures to get worse production wise. I have a question for those who get to go to the home games. Is the Cell a morgue with our lineup so horrible? Are people visibly frustrated? Booing? Sarcastic? Or do they just expect Dye to pop up and Paulie to whiff and AJ to pop up and thome to hit it right on the ground at somebody playing him perfectly in the shift? Just curious. Or is everybody just happy to be at the park watching a game? I'd think the lack of runs and the bullpen being the worst in baseball would make fans on edge at the Cell.

I was never crazy about the Royals rejects in the pen. But I assumed we'd be OKafter readin how gret our bullpen was by all the experts in the magazines as well as being convinced by those on here. MacDougal sucks.

That is the line of the season. You can't win without talent. Period. I hope somehow the team can start hitting home runs in bunches because that's the only way the Sox have a chance at contending for wild card. That is assuming the starting pitching stays this good.

The guy isn't healthy. Why won't people give him a break. His fielding alone has made him incredibly valuable. Another guy who we wouldn't have won a World Series if he wsn't in the lineup. To the person who said they are excited about Crede injured ... my gosh, please get a life.