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LOL. Why Petricka tonight. He was good yesterday; looked like a Little Leaguer today. Close but no cigar, Royals.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:22 AM) You say you played baseball on a HS team but I find it doubtful. That was the right pitch , He expected the fastball , got it, hit it decent , wasn't a pop up. Maybe he could've looked in a certain zone too , a bit lower perhaps but still was right thinking by Sanchez. It was a perfect pitcher's pitch with the cut he took IMO. He got the high fastball and stroked it right to center. I'd have preferred a more slappy type approach.

Don't know why he went with Petricka again tonight. Not smart.

Kinsler is the kind of guy you want on your team. Same with Torii Hunter. I'd love to have them both.

Lousy at bat by Carlos. Took the high pitch to center for the pop up. Damn. Sox gave it a good ol fashioned try. One hit from victory Carlos failed. Oh well.

Nice job Conor. Carlos is up. Yikes.

Would love to see Conor go with the pitch for a bloop to left.

Marcus, baby, with the game-tying single. This proves fans don't know s***. They booed Ausmus so he left Price in, and we tie the game. Sox will probably still lose on a walkoff, but NICE RALLY. And nice hit, Marcus. Semien has balls.

Marcus let that first cookie go by. Shoulda slashed a single off that meat. 1-1 count.

Damn, without Semien's error we win.

Paulie the professional hitter!!!!! That's all you can say about him. What a classy pro. Single to left.

That's all I need to see. Semien is not a third baseman. Sox need to realize you can't just move every player around. He played that ball horrifically. I'm not blaming him. He obviously likes second better.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 10:04 PM) You've just spent another $40 million, roughly. $35 on the bottom, possibly $50 million in the upper range. At any rate, internally we already have Semien to pair with Conor, so no need to spend there. The problem is that team's still going to come up short at 2B, catcher (Flowers' deficiencies are well known, in terms of K's and inconsistent offensive numbers)....and the biggest issue is that there's no sure-fire solution for DH. Keeping Viciedo and moving him to DH? And would Dayan even put up a 750-800 OPS against only LH pitching? Maybe, maybe not. We don't know how he would adjust to sporadic playing time, and then who would your DH be against RHP? Adam Dunn? Paul Konerko (joking)? At any rate, you're average or below league average then at C, 2B (Sanchez/Semien/Johnson) and DH....and not really being sure what we're going to get out of Avisail Garcia as a full-time player, if Conor can repeat, if Alexei can sustain his offensive success...if Abreu can continue to hit with so much power without Dunn behind him, etc. I don't even think giving Markakis 2-3 years would lead to even league average offensive production as he inevitably declines. In your scenario, they're one bat short, and probably still one starting pitcher short. Sale Quintana Mystery veteran 3 guy Danks Noesi If Rodon's ready to be the man in 2014 at some point, MAYBE...but we certainly can't count on that transpiring. And Danks would have to pitch much better than he has. And Noesi would have to repeat what he's been able to accomplish in 2014 (see Phil Humber). So I spent 35 to 40 million which is about right. Caufield, I like my rotation that you outlined there. I also was willing to DH Viciedo. I disagree with you about catcher. I think it's OK with Flowers. And you are right we can platoon Semien with Gillaspie, though Semien would have to work his ass off on defense in spring training to play third sufficiently. Same with Gillaspie. What's wrong with my rotation? The two bullpen guys might be the answer. If not Markakis, then maybe Span or ugh, Aoki. I think if Hahn did what I suggest ... we win.

QUOTE (MAX @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 09:24 PM) No. I wouldn't. I'd look for someone to better fill that closer role. Reed was awful. Max you could still reverse the trade and make Reed a setup guy like the Royals have in Davis.

Here's the question I must ask to those who blast Addison and still like Davidson. Simple question: If right now you could trade Davidson for Reed, would you make the trade? If they would agree to the deal right now to reverse last year's trade. I would trade Davidson for Reed right now and take my chances opening next season with Reed in the closer role.

Here's all it would take to win NOW. You tell me what our payroll would be. Add Markaikas. Add a starting pitcher (somebody like Santana; i said "like" Santana doesn't have to be him. Add two veteran bullpen guys and pray they improve. And if possible get a platoon partner for Gillaspie. Do these things and we WIN and don't waste Abreu and Sale any more. Do any of you actually disagree with what I said is true? Would it put Jerry in the poorhouse to make these moves? Are all of these moves possible? I think my post speaks for itself and is accurate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 08:53 PM) Flowers has pretty much held his own vs last seasons top FA catchers in McCann and Salty. IMO, I would not mind an upgrade because I think he is just too inconsistent. While the overall numbers wind up OK, and he has had some big hits, it seems to be he is just totally worthless for stretches which are too long. Everyone slumps, but Tyler seems to take his to anither level. And I still don't understand going after Martin if you don't think you can win next year. If you think the Sox are at least 2016 or probably 2017 away from contending, paying him all that money to hopefully still be effective at that point is questionable at best. Martin in the AL with the Yankees wasn't much better overall than the current edition of Tyler Flowers. Even fangraphs agrees. Paying a 32 year old catcher based on his 2014 career type season, basically for his services in 2017-2018, probably would wind up like the Wiley Coyote. If the Sox aren't going to contend until 2017 might as well trade Sale and Q. I mean what's the point if it takes that long to go .500? Baseball is a weird sport with the ridiculous economic system and ways of "rebuilding" compared to the parity stricken NFL. I mean we gonna waste 3 more seasons of Sale? Crazy. At least Flowers is OK on defense and gets hot once in a while. I agree to keep him. It's not like there are many catchers who can hit. Some want Martin yet he's as old as Lexi and Lexi must go cause he's too old and will decline. Crazy crazy crazy talk.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 04:25 PM) so that's yet one more reason they need to reign it in and hold off spending until next offseason. Geez, this is like being a Cub fan: Wait til next year. How long are the Sox going to waste Sale and now Abreu? Do what it takes to win a s*** division NOW. QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 06:12 PM) Sorry but the Sox only have 30-35M to spend which will not be enough to sign a big named starter, sign a lefty bat and bring in a proven closer. All three of those will be very costly. If that's all the Sox can spend, Jerry should cut parking in half NOW. Also, trading Alexei is a ridiculous idea. Do some of you WANT to finish last again? Think about how bad the Sox will be at short without Alexei. It will be embarrassingly bad. A whole season of L. Garcia at short? My gosh. Pencil them in for last place for sure with no bat at all there.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 12:58 PM) To Syria? No. My point was they are threatening to kidnap people in Australia and behead them. It's been reported these ISIS motherf***ers are also in the USA, thus could kidnap us here and behead us. It angers me to no end. Please Mr. Obama ... stop ISIS!

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:12 AM) Royals win. Mariners lose, on life support. A's down 1-0, 1st AL Central- Tigers 86-70 Royals 85-71 I'd laugh if the AL Wildcard Game is A's-Tigers, and the Tigers lost. I'm sick of the Tigers' domination of the Central. I'd love it if somehow they lost the wildcard game, as well. Something tells me they are built for the playoffs, however and this is finally their year to win it all. Hopefully they'll get it out of their system and the dynasty will be over.

Is Soria on a multi-year deal? Doesn't he still have closer stuff? Can Hahn get him?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 22, 2014 -> 11:17 PM) Aoki, Shields, Butler or V-Mart. The more I've been watching Aoki recently, the more I like him. He has an unorthodox approach, has cut down his K rate dramatically as he dealt with the transition from NL to AL....at the plate, the defense has no idea where to play him as he hits to all fields equally well, he's just a nice/solid glue or complimentary player that does all the little things right, another version of Iguchi. Statistically, he's been on fire the last month or so, so my having watched him a lot in the middle of a hot streak is skewing my viewpoint a bit, but he's just been the most dangerous hitter for the Royals. At any rate, that would be quite a nice off-season, and weaken two division foes. The problem is that I just don't see V-Mart until/unless we're in win now/all in mode, and that's not really setting up for 2015 without also adding another starter, two pieces in the bullpen (at least) and fixing the LF situation. Another solution is simply to sign Aoki and Shields, and DH Viciedo. Of course, if you cut Viciedo's $5ish million, that gives you a lot more flexibility to sign Martinez. (Unfortunately, the Martinez we could really use is JD Martinez, in terms of price range). My following responses are made with the caveat I don't care about Jerry's pocketbook, just the fact if the Sox sign a player to a multi year deal and he is a bust, the fact we can't get rid of him will annoy me to no end. Aoki: No. Please God no. Mr Slappy will be so hated on this board all season. Shields: No, because it'll take a 5-6 year deal and there's a huge risk he could flop at any time. Now if he'd go for 2-3 years, sure. He seems awfully durable and is still pretty good. Butler: If he is willing to admit he's a huge question mark and take a 2-3 year Keppinger type deal, fine. Playing KC 19 times means he'd get 76 at bats against the Royals which could help the batting average and production since he'd want to beat his old team's ass. V-Mart: Not gonna happen but would be a nice signee for 1-3 years. Again, somebody will probably give him a 5-6 year deal and the Adam Dunn deal has made those unpopular on the south side. I was reading Toronto put Buehrle on waivers this season. How bout a trade where they pay 3/4 of his contract and we send them a minor league stiff and bring back Mark? Then we could move one of the other lefties to the bullpen. Or Rodon could start his career in the bullpen for a year.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 01:50 AM) not what anybody wanted in April, but it's a step in the right direction and you can see more pieces of the puzzle being filled in. True, but it's been the "good Sox" and the "horrid Sox" in stretches all year. They've had great, clean games, exciting games. And they've had miserable games. 'Step in the right direction' is probably right, but there are no guarantees the Sox don't go 10-20 next April and are out of it after four weeks. Hahn needs to come through for all White Sox fans this offseason and make this a .500 team.

Sox do the Royals a huge favor. I have one question ... Is Bassitt for real? And why isn't Hawk calling him 'The Hound' like somebody created on this board.

Wow just heard Tyler hit his 15th homer. Hell he almost hit as many as Viciedo this year.