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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:46 AM) You guys are complaining about meaningless games. True, but it'd be nice to see some progress on defense. That's not happening. Also some progress in the bullpen. Not happening. It doesn't bode well for next season. I'm sick of the Sox being doormats. Hawk laughed at Avi when that ball rocked off his kneecap in right. And Semien looked like a bad Little Leaguer on the error. He has no instincts at all at 3B.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:39 AM) The fact that we have a bonehead for a manager should anger every Sox fan. Take the 30 games we have lost this year solely because of him and convert them to wins. Do this and we would have clinched 10 days ago instead of playing spoiler at this point in the season. Fair point again. But seriously, what pitcher do you think could have held the Tigers in the ninth? I didn't like seeing Petricka trot out there after excelling last night, but again, who should Robin have gone to that would have most definitely mowed down the Tigers? I hope Hahn realizes the bullpen has been bad from start to finish this year. Occasional highlights from them, but nobody has looked like a prime prospect in the pen.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:36 AM) Perfect pitchers pitch ? It was center cut just a bit up in the zone. A pitch that you can drive . Sure maybe you might want him to work the count after Conor's walk but Nathan was being careful with Conor and would rather have faced Sanchez. 1st pitch being a fastball was practically 100% guaranteed . If you know that it's coming you jump on it you don't slap at it. He jumped on it just didn't get the result. Slap hitting is for when you're down in the count just trying to stay alive. I don't think that was a pitch he was capable of driving. I accept your point, however. I was hoping Sanchez would slash or bloop a single to left. I have no idea how often he's been going that way. I thought it was a lousy offering by Sanchez. But the odds were slim we were gonna overcome a 3-0 deficit against a division winner tonight. Once again, Sox defense shows it is a huge problem moving forward.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:34 AM) If you told me before the season that Scott Carroll would get 126 major league innings this season, I would have thought the Sox lost 100. He did pretty well this season. He definitely earned his big-league paycheck, however much money that is. I can't fault him. He gets the most out of his limited ability; that is for sure.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:33 AM) C'mon fellas, Petricka, just like most every other bullpen arm in the big leagues, has pitched back to back games many a times. This isn't some "bonehead" Robin move. Good points. I'm just saying Petricka isn't anything special and it's going to the well too often. It probably doesn't matter. I can't name a pitcher on our team who I think would have gotten out of the ninth. I'm lamenting Petricka's ordinary-ness more than Robin being a buffoon. Though I would have preferred Robin try somebody else tonight.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:32 AM) Ventura has no feel for his bullpen. Ventura should be spreading the action anyway in the waning days of the season. Petricka pitched 1.1 last night as it is. I might be mistaken, but I truly think he was trying to establish Petricka as something besides an ordinary arm. As good as he was last night, he was that bad tonight. He had nothing at all. I hate Detroit so much. Hopefully Sale can make it two out of three vs. Detroit. I'm guessing he pitches pretty well but Detroit manages to win the game. Bastards.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:27 AM) Because our manager is a bonehead. Don't know why this angers me so much. I guess he was trying to establish Petricka as somebody special the final week of the season. Not gonna happen. Our bullpen has no special pitchers.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:19 AM) I wouldn't have swung at all though. Bingo. That was not the pitch to offer at. He had no chance with that approach.

LOL. Why Petricka tonight. He was good yesterday; looked like a Little Leaguer today. Close but no cigar, Royals.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 02:22 AM) You say you played baseball on a HS team but I find it doubtful. That was the right pitch , He expected the fastball , got it, hit it decent , wasn't a pop up. Maybe he could've looked in a certain zone too , a bit lower perhaps but still was right thinking by Sanchez. It was a perfect pitcher's pitch with the cut he took IMO. He got the high fastball and stroked it right to center. I'd have preferred a more slappy type approach.

Don't know why he went with Petricka again tonight. Not smart.

Kinsler is the kind of guy you want on your team. Same with Torii Hunter. I'd love to have them both.

Lousy at bat by Carlos. Took the high pitch to center for the pop up. Damn. Sox gave it a good ol fashioned try. One hit from victory Carlos failed. Oh well.

Nice job Conor. Carlos is up. Yikes.

Would love to see Conor go with the pitch for a bloop to left.

Marcus, baby, with the game-tying single. This proves fans don't know s***. They booed Ausmus so he left Price in, and we tie the game. Sox will probably still lose on a walkoff, but NICE RALLY. And nice hit, Marcus. Semien has balls.

Marcus let that first cookie go by. Shoulda slashed a single off that meat. 1-1 count.

Damn, without Semien's error we win.

Paulie the professional hitter!!!!! That's all you can say about him. What a classy pro. Single to left.

That's all I need to see. Semien is not a third baseman. Sox need to realize you can't just move every player around. He played that ball horrifically. I'm not blaming him. He obviously likes second better.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 10:04 PM) You've just spent another $40 million, roughly. $35 on the bottom, possibly $50 million in the upper range. At any rate, internally we already have Semien to pair with Conor, so no need to spend there. The problem is that team's still going to come up short at 2B, catcher (Flowers' deficiencies are well known, in terms of K's and inconsistent offensive numbers)....and the biggest issue is that there's no sure-fire solution for DH. Keeping Viciedo and moving him to DH? And would Dayan even put up a 750-800 OPS against only LH pitching? Maybe, maybe not. We don't know how he would adjust to sporadic playing time, and then who would your DH be against RHP? Adam Dunn? Paul Konerko (joking)? At any rate, you're average or below league average then at C, 2B (Sanchez/Semien/Johnson) and DH....and not really being sure what we're going to get out of Avisail Garcia as a full-time player, if Conor can repeat, if Alexei can sustain his offensive success...if Abreu can continue to hit with so much power without Dunn behind him, etc. I don't even think giving Markakis 2-3 years would lead to even league average offensive production as he inevitably declines. In your scenario, they're one bat short, and probably still one starting pitcher short. Sale Quintana Mystery veteran 3 guy Danks Noesi If Rodon's ready to be the man in 2014 at some point, MAYBE...but we certainly can't count on that transpiring. And Danks would have to pitch much better than he has. And Noesi would have to repeat what he's been able to accomplish in 2014 (see Phil Humber). So I spent 35 to 40 million which is about right. Caufield, I like my rotation that you outlined there. I also was willing to DH Viciedo. I disagree with you about catcher. I think it's OK with Flowers. And you are right we can platoon Semien with Gillaspie, though Semien would have to work his ass off on defense in spring training to play third sufficiently. Same with Gillaspie. What's wrong with my rotation? The two bullpen guys might be the answer. If not Markakis, then maybe Span or ugh, Aoki. I think if Hahn did what I suggest ... we win.

QUOTE (MAX @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 09:24 PM) No. I wouldn't. I'd look for someone to better fill that closer role. Reed was awful. Max you could still reverse the trade and make Reed a setup guy like the Royals have in Davis.

Here's the question I must ask to those who blast Addison and still like Davidson. Simple question: If right now you could trade Davidson for Reed, would you make the trade? If they would agree to the deal right now to reverse last year's trade. I would trade Davidson for Reed right now and take my chances opening next season with Reed in the closer role.

Here's all it would take to win NOW. You tell me what our payroll would be. Add Markaikas. Add a starting pitcher (somebody like Santana; i said "like" Santana doesn't have to be him. Add two veteran bullpen guys and pray they improve. And if possible get a platoon partner for Gillaspie. Do these things and we WIN and don't waste Abreu and Sale any more. Do any of you actually disagree with what I said is true? Would it put Jerry in the poorhouse to make these moves? Are all of these moves possible? I think my post speaks for itself and is accurate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 08:53 PM) Flowers has pretty much held his own vs last seasons top FA catchers in McCann and Salty. IMO, I would not mind an upgrade because I think he is just too inconsistent. While the overall numbers wind up OK, and he has had some big hits, it seems to be he is just totally worthless for stretches which are too long. Everyone slumps, but Tyler seems to take his to anither level. And I still don't understand going after Martin if you don't think you can win next year. If you think the Sox are at least 2016 or probably 2017 away from contending, paying him all that money to hopefully still be effective at that point is questionable at best. Martin in the AL with the Yankees wasn't much better overall than the current edition of Tyler Flowers. Even fangraphs agrees. Paying a 32 year old catcher based on his 2014 career type season, basically for his services in 2017-2018, probably would wind up like the Wiley Coyote. If the Sox aren't going to contend until 2017 might as well trade Sale and Q. I mean what's the point if it takes that long to go .500? Baseball is a weird sport with the ridiculous economic system and ways of "rebuilding" compared to the parity stricken NFL. I mean we gonna waste 3 more seasons of Sale? Crazy. At least Flowers is OK on defense and gets hot once in a while. I agree to keep him. It's not like there are many catchers who can hit. Some want Martin yet he's as old as Lexi and Lexi must go cause he's too old and will decline. Crazy crazy crazy talk.