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QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 10:21 PM) We can expect a typical White Sox season where they hang around too long for KW trade any of them away...inevitably the flaws on the team don't allow them to finish off the play-off push, and we're left with no post-season...and no prospects. I don't know about that. KW isn't dumb. He knows nobody will take the Big Three of Peavy, Rios or Dunn, but assuredly he will accept any offers for any of those 3 if they keep excelling and if a team is dumb enough to bite. It won't matter if we are "in the race" with a .500 record. I expect nothing in return but a couple lousy minor leaguers, but KW assuredly will dump any or all of those 3 if any team is willing to pay those players. That's money the Sox investors' great grandchildren will thank KW for someday.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) Pujols 0/3 and down to .218 now for the season. Amazingly, Bartolo Colon throwing another shutout against that O's line-up. And no idea why Kenneth Williams, Jr. is playing for BIRM when Mitchell should be playing everyday down there. Maybe Birmingham has Sunday lineups.

Is Adam Dunn to the point you like seeing him step to the plate?

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 08:18 PM) They were talking on the Score this morning that there's a date coming soon that Beckham would have to be sent down, otherwise he'd have to clear waivers. They said May 5th, but weren't sure. I know his 3 years in the bigs would be June 4th, but maybe the date they were speaking of is sooner. Anyway, I hope it's soon, because he can't hit a fastball. Send him down until he can. Well, he won't clear waivers as he's not yet in the Josh Fields/Brian Anderson category of bad, so they better send him down now for a month.

Rios is going to kill somebody in right field. I wonder if he communicates at all out there?

QUOTE (hi8is @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 07:31 PM) What is this miraculous thing we're seeing here called offense? It'd be nice to see 3 home runs a game. That's the Sox game and we'd win the division with 3 bombs per night IMO. Dunn is definitely a different player this year. Could it be he really lost 20 pounds and it's helped him? He could not make contact at all last year. Anybody can hit 11 home runs when they try to hit it out every time. We can say it's the hitting coach, but I'm thinking he actually did get in decent shape (for a huge man) and that's why he can actually make contact during some at bats. Last year he failed almost every at bat. As to why the ball is elevating, maybe Manto deserves some credit for that. But don't you agree the big man has lost weight and that means a lot?

I hate four-game series when the Sox are sucking as they are now. Watching Sunday's game would be agony. Even if we win, we get one win in the series. Woopie. Lose and it's the clean sweep. What a dysfunctional team the Sox have. Can't win at home. Sad.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 11:41 PM) The reality of it is that we don't yet know who the 2012 White Sox are. Based on what we've seen and what potential is there - they could actually end up playing to a .600+ clip. Conversely, they could end up playing to a .500 or below clip again. These next two full months will tell a lot and by the all-star break - this question should really be answered. The players on the field will tell us - until then, it's all just conjecture on our part... Which is the point of this forum. I just see no way this team can play .600 ball. It already has told us all we need to know. It can't score runs (except the games we get 2-3 home runs) and it can't score runs. ONLY hope for a .600 mark is domination of the Central. If that is Robin's signature claim to fame, there's hope. But I see the Royals scoring a ton of runs off the Sox (they always get up for the Sox) and the Minnie hex doesn't figure to end overnight just cause of Robin. I think we'll play well vs. Cleveland. Detroit? I suspect they'll win each series against the Sox the rest of the way. Will they sweep? Dunno

What new? Sox get owned by Red Sox. It's hard to get used to the White Sox being insignificant after '05. So frustrating. It does look like Peavy will be tradeable, however, if he can keep this up the entire first half.

Who are the 2012 White Sox you ask? A-They are .500 until they give us ANY reason to believe otherwise. Interesting thread, tho, I don't mean to mock the good responses I read.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 07:52 PM) If you can't enjoy baseball for the sake of the game itself and the pleasure to be derived from it, why bother? QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 08:05 PM) Yeah, there's plenty to enjoy about this team. Dunn finally being the big donkey we hoped for. Peavy pitching like an ace. Jones/Reed/Thornton just destroying hitters. Paulie. Chris Sale looking like a heck of a pitcher. Humber's perfect game. An exciting leadoff hitter for once. 1.) That has nothing to do with enjoying this team more than ones of the past 2 years. 2.) Good points. Those are all great things to watch, so many I wonder why our record is not better?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 08:01 PM) It's easier to read that way. People don't have the patience to read long paragraphs anymore...so they can quickly hunt and peck at the main topics instead of reading all the way through an entire paragraph. Visually, the haiku/poetry style doesn't tend to work well on a message board. Dunn/Peavy/Rios suck. Rios is overpaid. Dunn, Beckham and Morel K too much. The White Sox suck at home and attendance sucks and nobody cares about the Sox. Ozzie is great/Ventura is probably going to be so-so at best. We already know all those things. People like to go to boards to see new ideas, new perspectives, different ways of looking at things...information that the "average" fan doesn't have access to. I disagree. It takes too long to scroll down through your posts IMO. You said: "We already know all those things. People like to go to boards to see new ideas, new perspectives, different ways of looking at things...information that the "average" fan doesn't have access to." I said: Are you serious?? What "new ideas" of note get posted on the White Sox message board? What are you talking about? Info the average fan doesn't have access too? Who on here is posting s*** like that?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 06:51 PM) Or you can hire me to be your fall guy, Im good at being put in bad situations and expected to perform miracles. Also Im good at taking falls for other people. Funny post. Man the people on here I argue with in the Sox section so much seem to be brilliant individuals in the work place. Reading this thread is interesting.

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 02:10 PM) Yes. Last night the employees threw her a party without the bosses around. I am certain the "retired" story was exposed. What a nice gesture by the regular employees and not the corporate butt kissing paper pushers. This is one of the main things wrong with America. Instead of companies trying to increase productivity the old fashioned way, to expect their people to do better and do more, the higher-ups "save money" by dumping loyal 70 year old employees. This happens so often it has a trickle down effect on the morale of the American workplace and overall productivity/the economy, even though the business owners laugh at this notion. I would hate to be one of you 22 year olds just entering the workplace. Cause only hope for a great career is to be one of those higher ups who do nothing but think of ways to save money, ways that step on human beings.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:43 AM) I think the Ozzie arguements cursed the thread and it permeated the team's play on the field. Yeah. I mean does anybody really "enjoy" this team yet? Only consistent thing about this team so far is it is playing winning ball on the road.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 06:16 PM) We already established that the average LF OPS was right around .727 last year. Fukudome put up a .723 against RHP last year. He's unlikely to increase that. Dayan Viciedo is ONLY 23 years old. You're totally precluding the fact that such a young player can actually improve/adapt/adjust to RHP in favor of a veteran who has absolutely nothing to do with the future of this organization. If Dayan failed to hit RHP in the minors in 2011, you might have a point, but you can't judge a young player of his age based on a sum total of less than 300 cumulative MLB at-bats at age 21-22-23. And if the team played that poorly and our attendance was only ahead of the Indians, then you'd be here everyday saying KW should be fired, lol. Caufield, People blast my haiku style of posting, yet you haver all these spaces between paragraphs which makes me think it's an English paper. What style do people like better? Yours or mine? I say this respectfully. I like your posts generally. As far as Dayan, they might as well be patient with him. Look at the Angels. Pujols hasn't homered yet. Dayan has 3-4 at least. Nobody's gonna bury Albert yet.

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 26, 2012 -> 10:14 AM) She is enjoying being retired, she was only going to work another year anyway. But still a little upset at how hard she worked to rehab and get back to work. She didn't need to push herself so much. Yes that's understandable she'd feel that way. Were they nice to her at the party?

Hope you are well. Did u go to Mayo in Arizona? Are there Mayo clinics all over? Tell us some stories about your experience since you may have some time Just always curious about the idiosyncracies of the medical profession and how they treat us.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:38 AM) Of COURSE, the McDonald hit killed us, especially with 2 outs. But the entire tenor of the entire game changes if we take a 3-0 lead early. We can argue about it, it can't be proven, it's just one of those things you feel in your gut from having watched and listened to hundreds of baseball games in a lifetime. I wonder if it's just a Sox thing where we always point to little things like that as ruining a whole game. Not picking on you. It's something that is done all the time. Or like last year blaming Pierre's drops and Thornton's implosions as reasons the whole season was toast ... something that happened in April. Is this a Chicago thing? Don't good teams just win?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:55 AM) So Rios looks like a completely different player the last two games. Jamming himself with everything and showing no patience at the plate. There was a ton of overreaction about his getting off to a good start. He actually played like he's supposed to play for a bit.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:48 AM) Turning point of this game was AJ's early double not going out of the park... And giving up 4 runs with two outs in the 6th. Rios, Viciedo, Morel and Beckham. Surely a crooked number will be put up. Can we maybe at least challenge the Boston bullpen once in this series? I wish we would get a good team again where we could point to turning points in blowout wins. Our wins are pretty cut and dried. We either get a gem pitched or have the home run bats out. Wow, way more Boston fans than Sox fans at the Cell. Hilarious.

I wonder if Beckham's glove is so good he'll reverse roles with Lilly (on some other team) at some point. Beckham will be a once a week or twice a week guy and late-inning defensive guy at any of the infield positions.

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:37 AM) I agree, it's time to end the Gordon Beckham experiment. QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:41 AM) I'm back to my original prediction. ~.500 team, 82 wins. 1.) Lilly's been a good team guy. Why not give him the final 400 at bats at 2B and see if he can improve defensively? Beckham can re-invent himself in the minors the rest of the year or follow in the footsteps of Fields/Anderson and be done. 2.) I think Sox will be five North or South of .500. It's all gonna depend how they fare against fellow, lousy Central Division teams. It's still possible they could win a lot of divisional games.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:26 AM) Greg!! Happy to be on the same side as you. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:27 AM) Make that two of us! QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 28, 2012 -> 03:33 AM) That's bs. He's broken. Dude has a big stick...he's just broken... Its really sad 1.2.) Yes .You guys are right. The man cannot hit. 3.) If he's broken, fine. It's time to send him down for THE REST OF THE SEASON. Let Lilly play second.

I officially expect nothing out of Beckham offensively from now on. He's a good glove, no hit guy. Unfortunately that doesn't cut it at 2B. Dime a dozen position.