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QUOTE(quickman @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:25 PM) you bet I completely agree. two more players will be added and hopefully Harris gone. Just my opinion, Not trying to even start a conversation with all the Willie ass kissers out there. If they sign ignuchi willie will be traded or reassigned. Maybe we can trade him to a Japanese team for cash considerations.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:15 PM) I agree 100%. But it's also valid for others to be happy with the way the Sox are shaping up. I'm really not trying to be antagonistic, honestly. I was just speaking for myself, and I didn't mean to imply that your question or take on the Garcia trade was wrong in any way. If you took it that way, I'm really sorry. I didn't take it the wrong way at all. I was just stating that I was just going to ask a fair question and I thought your post represented everyone fairly.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:10 PM) I'm certainly not gonna go that far. I have no doubt that all the people on this site are good Sox fans - otherwise, they wouldn't waste their time posting here. If Aboz wants to take KW to the woodshed about Reed, that's absolutely his right. Reed is most likely gonna be a real good player for a real long time. Sure, it could fail to happen ( prime example I can think of is Joe Charbonneau for Cleveland ), but there's no real reason to believe that Reed won't excel. All I was saying is that I personally am happy with what the Sox have done, and I have nothing bad to say about or to KW right now. Get me a 2B and I'd be even happier.... I am not going to be malicious in any way. I am just going to ask a fair question. Nothing wrong with that at all.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:09 PM) And it is a fair question, a question I would be interested to hear the answer to.............. A question you'd probably rather hear than some of the un-intelligent, uninformed love fests that some will be performing to KW.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:07 PM) Why does he not realize nearly every single pitcher has a hand full of awful starts a year. Buehrle is not any different. I would like him to compose a list of better pitchers then buehrle over the last four years. Then laugh when he realizes there are not many on the list. There will be very few qwerty, you're exactly right. I guess he is inconsistent because he's thrown more innings than anyone else in the majors the last four seasons? Give me a break. Some of you amaze me. :rolly

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) Wrong again The Cell has only become Coors junior last year after the renovations. It was not Coors junior before then. And Girlie has had much better run support throughout his pitching career then Garcia, and still he has had similar win/loss over the last 4 years Garcia's run support last year in Seattle was just brutal. He was 2-8 despite being top 5 in league in ERA during his Sea stint. He also played on a team that won 116 games. Did you care to offer that up?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) On the whole Freddy, JReed situation, I think the deal pretty much had to be done, and KW set the team up in a pretty nice situation. KW knew when he made the trade that he would get Freddy locked up, and he did, for a nice amount of $$. Reed is never going to be a power guy(or at least not from what I have heard/seen) but more of a Kotsay type at best. Now I would be willing to bet the Pods deal is never made if Reed is still in the orgnazation, but an OF of Pods, Rowand and Reed isnt exactly going to use The Cell to there advantage. I think with Pods coming here, with Rowand hopfully staying for a while, Reed isn't as needed as before. Good post Tony, you make some good points. I guess some people don't understand that it's okay to ask KW why Reed had to be included in the deal. Was it necessity or were there other options available? That's my main question to KW.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:02 PM) Good job editing after being taken to school...next time, post your thoughts together Good, funny stuff right there. You really had no point so it wasn't hard to knock down your strawman theory.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:03 PM) who cares about reed or garcia, its done, his point is could we have done the deal without Reed. That's it. That's what he will ask. The answer of course will be no. Exactly, sorry I don't want to stand in line to offer KW a rimjob.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 08:01 PM) So Buehrle would also be inconsistant right? Look at the career numbers my friend and look where they have pitched. One has pitched in Coors Jr, the other in SAFEco Park. (emphasis on the safety for pitchers.) And yet, Buehrle has better numbers.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:59 PM) Way to avoid the point Consistency was the point. :rolly The point was taken, then I posted facts to show who is more "consistent." Read back.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:54 PM) Yeah and Girlie is so consistent right? :rolly He'll be starting opening day, not Garcia. Believe Buehrle's got a better career ERA, better WHIP and just as good if not better winning percentage than Frederick. And he hasn't pitched his whole career in Safeco Park either, easily the best pitchers park in the majors.

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:51 PM) Yeah, but Maggs went down like a month and a half after we traded for Garcia. When we traded for him we were contending. Yeah, sure, they're history shows nothing but folding, but if you really thought that they were done when they traded for Garcia, then I'd have to question the fact that you're a White Sox fan. Maggs was hurt before the Garcia trade. We got Garcia on June 27th. Maggs missed about a month before the trade, then played 10 games after the trade in mid July and was done for the year.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:49 PM) Aboz, consider this quote. "You've got to give something to get something." Were you expecting us to trade Borchard instead? Wow, we lost Reed. Look what we gained? A pitcher who has been inconsistent for most of his career who may get hammered at the Cell? From what I saw, after coming over in the trade last year, he wasn't exactly dynamite. Don't get me wrong, I love Garcia. But if I want to ask KW about the trade, you all can wait in line behind me with your love letters.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:47 PM) Now I don't pray to beat these teams, I know we can contend with the Yankees, Twins or the Red Sox anyday. Bring em on. I think he's got an A- for his off-season rating right now. We are no doubt going to be one of the most dangerous teams in the AL this year. I'm looking at the Central, and beyond, IF we get Iguchi, just because I don't see very many holes anymore. How about regularly beating the Twins first? We have a helluva team on paper, I hope this is the year it leads to success throughout the season on the field.

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:43 PM) You know, it's really easy to say that when the season concludes. Not really, if you'd been around and see how we've folded the past few years, it was pretty damn predictable. Once Maggs was on the shelf, I don't think many gave the Sox a shot and rightfully so.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:37 PM) It was either that or Crede. And if you are serious about competing for a division title you can't give up two starters in July. I know Reed is going to be good, but this is a deal that had to be made, and will benefit both teams. We weren't contending, we were pretending, like usual. Bottom line is, he gave up on a guy that could really help this club, regardless of what he got in return. If I want to ask him about Reed at Soxfest, so be it. Maybe he will actually admit it was a very tough decision and give an informative answer. Or he may curl up like a cheap tent and give me BS. Regardless, while everyone else gives him endless love, I am going to ask some tough questions. Another one is going to be, Is this your make or break year as GM if we fail to win the division for the fifth straight year?

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) I hope you are joking. Would our starting staff be better with: Buerhle Hernandez Contreras Garland Grilli f*** that. Not joking at all, I am just going to ask why he gave up Reed and were there other options available than giving up Reed. If he doesn't give a suitable answer, I will further my probing questions.

Ahh, Jeremy Reed, one of my main questions for KW at Soxfest... What the hell were you thinking, KW?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) I think we would have to pay a team to take davis. Unfortunately, I am sure we would have non-tendered him had we known that we were going to land AJ. Now we are stuck with a million dollar backup who can't hit.

Wonder what the chances are that AJ gets added to the Soxfest lineup. Would definitely be a great thing to see. If not, I'll have to try and get him to sign out in Tucson.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) Well.. Kenny will not be mugged at soxfest. I'm proud of the man. Don't worry, I've still got a few things planned, mainly centered around Jeremy Reed. In regards to this signing, I would like to see Davis traded now so that Burke can be kept on the roster to catch Buehrle.

This is BIG. Thank you Kenny, you have just released yourself from a Soxfest bashing.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) Condoms suck. They always fit too tight around and they hurt like hell. I had to start using these boring as hell ones called "Magnums." Pisses me off that I can't use any of the cool colored ones or sensitive models. One size fits all my ass. :fyou Condom Company... We can do without the details, thank you very much.

I would have booed for Lofton as well, that old guy is a complete NAG. Why they'd choose to unveil him at Soxfest is beyond me.