NO!!MARY!!!

Bill Veeck was still the owner in April, 1980. E&R did not take over until 1981.

If it is true that Ishbia is threatening the move, then they’re as good as gone. Nashville was first floated in 2023, before he was part of the equation, so he was either behind the scenes much earlier, or he’s jumping on the threat bandwagon. I find it hilarious and infuriating at the same time when fans who live a thousand miles outside of Chicago say “good riddance, I hope they move.”

My feeling is if the area around it hasn’t been developed by now, it never will be.

Downer post, but true. Also recall that in 2012 they were in 1st place most of the season and didn’t even crack 2 million in attendance. I don’t see that ever changing, especially now.

I wouldn’t call 42 years ago “recently.”

No, I am not.

To me it’s a funny thing that it’s 35 years old and still gets referred to as the “new” park.

Then that’s something they won’t be able to correct until they get a new stadium, because they’ll never be able to build up a “Comiskeyville” where they are now, because from my understanding the neighborhood won’t allow it. Even if they do, I still worry that it would flop because they’re the White Sox and they don’t have a large fan base.

It’s just that telescopic camera views of downtown have fooled people into thinking that downtown would be practically on top of the place.

I say this out of die hard cynicism, of course. Earlier in the thread I pointed out that old Comiskey never got the “Sacred Cathedral of the Holy Game” treatment during its lifetime and was trashed when it wasn’t being ignored. Also “new” Comiskey wasn’t trashed until Camden Yards came around, at least that’s my memory. I admit I could be wrong. The park was designed with Royals Stadium in mind, yet somehow that park escaped the constant criticisms of the second Comiskey. Also, there is the shadow of Wrigley Field looming large. They’ll never escape that. They could build the retro-iest ballpark in history and I truly believe we will hear, in Chicago and elsewhere “the White Sox *sneer* offer the phony retro atmosphere that Wrigley actually has (if you ignore the towering scoreboards and mostly-new bricks).”

Sure. Far off in the distance

If they ever build a retro style park in the footprint of Old Comiskey, the immediate reaction of pretty much everyone will be “retro parks are dead. The White Sox goof it up once again. Why did they abandon a perfectly good and serviceable park across the street for this outdated white elephant?”

OK.

NOT my point.

Exactly my point. The next time a sports radio guy Cubbie fan gushes about the 2016 Cubs, call in and tell him that the 2005 Sox’ 11-1 run and World Series sweep was more “impressive.” See what happens.

Let us not forget that after he threw his perfect game, Dave Bleephead immediately said that Kerry Wood’s 20 strikeout game was more “impressive.” Media idiots like Dan Bernstein glommed onto it and we were treated to “discussions” of what feat was more “impressive.” The enraging part for me is imagining if a Cub pitcher threw a perfect game and a Sox fan told a radio host that something a Sox pitcher did was more “impressive.” He would be dismissed as a jealous lowlife and laughed off the air.

No, he wouldn’t

1994 was an incomplete season.

Not true. Cubs outdrew the Sox in 1993, even though the Sox won their division.

Lovable Comiskey? No, it wasn’t. It was never accorded the reverence given to Wrigley, Fenway and Tiger Stadium. A 1990 Sporting News article trashed it and quoted players who hated the place.

Are you kidding? There are fans still mad at Al Lopez for not starting Billy Pierce in the 1959 World Series. And Bill Veeck for his trades in 1960.

I think the outrage stems over the fact that people are automatically assuming that he taunted Marte over his mother being dead. Turns out it was just a standard issue “your mother’s a…” crack that players hear all the time. It affected him because his mom is dead, which 100% understandable. What bothers me now are the usual moral outragers, the ones glomming onto it to torture the guy and put him through hell. It’s uncalled for and, as one person already said, unacceptable. He opened his mouth and said the wrong thing to the wrong person. His banning is enough, hopefully he learned his lesson. He doesn’t need an internet lynch mob coming after to him to revel in their moral superiority.

My sister gets upset and honks at people. I have told her the same thing you tell your wife.

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I don’t get why you’re asking me.