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Continuous rebuilds to maximize profits for Jerry until he sells the team / passes away. If this second rebuild fails, rinse and repeat with a third one.

The guy does the postgame show, along with Frank and Podsednik. Pretty sad that the Sox couldn’t get them to go. Hell, they couldn’t even get Bacon to go.

Well said. Ultimately performance and results matter. If a high level executive of a company makes a decision that completely tanks their business, no one is going to say, “aw shucks, his process was sound but it just didn’t go his way!” Ridiculous.

Elvis Andrus should still be available.

More likely he will be designated for retirement like Oldy Moldy.

You don’t enjoy this? 🤣

That’s only because the Sox haven’t had any position players that have retained or increased their value toward the end of their contracts. If Moncada and Eloy were actually performing, Hahn/Getz would have looked to move them for prospects. Instead, only Eloy could be dumped for almost nothing.

What’s your point? You just made the same comment. He’s bad.

At least Getz has learned that spending millions on an old bad catcher is a bad idea. Old bad catchers are a dime a dozen.

Wildy wrong, like you have been for your SoxTalk career. 🤣 TaylorStSoxApologist.

Haha, I was about to say… Just like if Tatis Jr. was never traded for Shields. Getz would be looking to trade him right about now.

The Sox have to crawl before they walk. There’s not a doubt in my mind that the Sox won’t be signing a $200+ million dollar contract before they sign a $100+ million dollar contract. I don’t need Getz to explicitly say it to know that’s what will eventually happen.

Looks like @wegner posted the full list, which doesn’t look much better. 🤣

The point is that Andrew Vaughn was never good. Producing a list of equally bad first basemen, most of whom are nearing retirement, doesn’t make 26 year old Vaughn look any better.

I’m pretty sure Roll Tide was the reasonable one. Sports Guy was the true Orioles homer and thought that Elias poops golden nuggets.

Both. Vaughn has never had one season as good as any of those first basemen you listed. The only reason your comparison works is because most of those guys are old and/or on the downside of their careers. Tellez isn’t old but he was never really a good player to begin with, just like Vaughn. If we have to contemplate whether our 26 year old former #3 overall 1B pick is worth $6 million or not, the story has already been written. I guess the fact that he is starting at 1B in the MLB is proof that he isn’t some sort of colossal bust, but then again, he should probably be a bench player.

That’s a bit of an insincere way to frame it. All of those first basemen you listed had way worse years than expected. And Vaughn has never had even one good season in his career, much less a season as good as what all of those 1B have had in their careers. Plus, many of the guys you listed are at the downside of their careers. Vaughn is sitting here at age 26 which should be the prime years of his career and is still terrible.

Famous last words, and that totally sounds like Hahn. ”If our entire roster stays healthy all season and has a great season, we’ll win a lot of games!!!”

Is this the entire list? It does say additional but I’m not sure that means what I think it does. Man, that current players list is embarrassing.

Yep. The Orioles at least have players that have actually panned out in the majors. We are sitting here hoping that our first wave of prospects actually will. And we all know that top prospects always pan out in the majors, just like the Sox first rebuild…

Andrew Vaughn is definitely offensive to watch at first base. 🤣

Especially in the White Sox organization. Roster needs over actual readiness.

True to some extent. But discussing whether a #3 overall pick is worth $6 million or should be DFA after only four seasons at age 26 is pretty damn bad.

True, but do you want to welcome those nut jobs back? I’m sure you can taste their tears over at Orioles Hangout. 🤣