Snowy Demon

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/2023/orioles/jordan-westburg-676059?affiliateId=mlbapp-android_webview Not a forgotten prodpect by MLB circles. He may have been overlooked by casual fans. He was rated higher than Kjerstad in 2023. He had WAR of 100 in 2023 and having a much better season in 2024. He is also perfectly capable SS who will not play there in Baltimore for an obvious reason.

That is one reason why I brought up Westburg and Kirby (or Gilbert). Westburg is really good with 5 years control after this year. The Mariners have been searching for 2B for a long time. The Orioles can bring up Mayo, Holliday, or Norby. Kirby is ace type with several years of control, but the Mariners can use Woo and Hancock. Sure, both teams will be somewhat weaker on their strengths, but will make them much stronger by addressing their biggest needs. This trade can be balanced out by adding other players. Like I said, this is more likely an offseason trade.

I think the Mariners need more than 1 batter to help them. They need some hitters who can provide batting average and good contact hitters. Who could they get who can provide good contact and average?

We can agree to disagree on this. However, this is not a TDL type of a trade. Very much an offseason trade. Also, I listed as plus for both for a reason. I do not think the Mariners having one of the worst hitting teams in MLB this year will give away their hitting prospects.

I agree, but above trade does kind of make sense for both. That trade, however, does not make sense during trade deadline.

This SI article is making up something from what Mike Elias said. Like I said originally, SI is not a reliable source.

Making what up? As a negotiator, the first rule is to always leave options open. That quote from Mike Elias is a perfect way to say he is not available unless a deal is too good to pass up. There is nothing on that quote says Jackson Holliday is going to be traded.

I understand perfectly. If someone offers him Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, and Bryce Miller for Jackson Holliday; of course he will trade him. Is this realistic? Obviously not. Question is do you take this quote as saying he will trade Jackson Holliday?

He is still being paid so the contract can be traded. (Not sure if this is allowed.)

Stephen Strasburg.

"It's a tough one to trade," Elias said, according to MASN's Melanie Newman. "He's the No. 1 prospect in minor league baseball. This is a hard talent to get your hands on. We have him, we've been developing him, and we've got very high hopes for him. He's exceptionally far ahead of anyone in his age group, so it's not something we're going to be eager to explore." This is the only part from Elias. Others on that article are speculations. People can decide what he is saying here.

He is definitely a reliable source since his office does not leak information. No source is reliable when they are speculating.

One thing that has been true for Elias is that he and his team do not leak any moves or negotiations. People can quote him on certain things, but he only says things very general terms. They are usually not meaningful. He only says with any certainty when things actually happen.

Honestly, the Orioles and the Mariners match up really well. Something like Westburg plus for Kirby plus. That helps both teams immediately.

SI is not a reliable source.

Do people need excuses to drink?

Fansided and SI are not exactly good places to get information.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/07/brewers-to-acquire-aaron-civale.html Interesting.

With possible inning limits and injury history, the White Sox may be better off trading Crochet during this offseason. There is a perceived notion that teams overpay during TDL, but this really has not been the case for controlled contracts.

Noah Schultz for Matt Holliday.

You may need to wait a long time for that. A free agent compensation pick will be likely if the White Sox hold out for this return.

German Marquez, Tyler Mahle, Robby Ray, Kyle Wright, Danny Salazar, Dylan Bundy (2020 but having a career season), Mike Minor... just within last 10 years who had one absolutely great years but never really sustained.

It is always difficult to project a player based on 1/2 of a season or just 1 season for that matter. See players like Jonathan India, Jorge Lopez, Nick Senzel, Dylan Carlson, etc.

Looking more and more like 2022 was an outlier for Cease.

I hope you are not suggesting cloning Jerry. ?