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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 01:44 AM) It's a bunch of guys who haven't played together and Anaheim has morphed into this chippy trapping team against us. Just horrific hockey. the hawks will see alot of that. many team who don't have that talent level on the team, from line 1 thru line 4, will need to contain the hawks, hence trapping. i rather have the hawk see it now, and learn how to beat it or get around it, so when playoff time comes around, they will be experience with it.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 02:49 AM) I am totally wrong to think Svedberg is playing at least at a serviceable level? Aside from being a giant, he hasn't been very noticeable, which is exactly what you want out of a rookie D man. interesting concept...... i like it. i see his minutes climbing and i also see his hits climbing as well. i will be honest, i was extremely concerned when keith went down. but this will be as the cliche' goes, baptism under fire and he is doing good work.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 03:29 AM) This Toews guy has had a solid career 2 OT winners, 2 of them, and with in the first minute of play. how many players would have love to have that stat?? this first line of 3 players for ot is powerful. Kane, Toews and Seab. wait until Kane starts getting into the action. you know, i wonder who is on that second line of OT??

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 06:52 AM) I would imagine they have had a very conservative game plan to make sure not leave the defense high and dry down Keith. i agree, and not only b/c Keith is down, but with all the new faces on the team.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 27, 2015 -> 03:19 AM) Crawford has been fantastic. yeah, at first i was kinda of so-so when he got his contract. i have always known any success a team has, needs a #1 elite goalie. well, Craw has proven that and is earning his salary. the hawk org will be dumb if they trade Craw in the next 4 yrs. no matter how good the team is around him, the team really needs that #1 elite goalie.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 06:47 PM) Agreed. Too much negativity. Let's try supporting the team and ownership for a change. The great thing about baseball is there is always next season. 2016 can be great! it is not negativity that some are talking about, part of it is defense of a poster statement, esp when others are just to arbitrary defend without proof or to agate . all this is from that expectation that we, the fans may not know, but can be found via the internet. granted, this is been a build up of frustration and of a perceived idea of a comments made and a comment of what was the hidden meaning. the supporting of anything from the sox management is a moot point. we are sox fans, we are at the mercy of the sox management or org and they way they run the team. this was nothing but the fans voicing their displeasure of how things are being done. now will anything change, well i hope so, but it doesn't mean it will, can i change my loyalty to another chi team, for me, that will never be an option. i will have to hope for a better next yr. hope for a better next yr...... that was a ads slogan the sox used 30-40 yrs ago. things haven't change lol....... btw, a great post i am going to take a vacation from this site ...

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 02:13 PM) The Cubs had Schwarber at #2 on their board not because they thought he was the 2nd best player in the draft, but to them he was the second best option when they factoring in the $$(which is the biggest factor), their success in developing hitters, and their plan to develop hitters through the system, then trade or sign pitchers in the FA. In other words, if Sox draft a pitcher who's ranked lower than a hitter on most boards because they have a stronger track record in pitching development, and they could save $$ for later rounds, then they are still taking the BPA from their perspective, which I am fine with as well. you are 100 % on this. this has been my main argument and and defense on those who wants to argue the BPA selection and debate. the BPA as i have always have said is subjective and the main org are the only one who can define their reasoning. the last debate on this was around the past draft.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 05:57 AM) That's an interesting theory, and if you have any evidence to back it up, I'm sure we'd all be interested in hearing about it. In the meantime, let's be very clear in what most of the rest of us are talking about as it relates to the state of things today with the White Sox. No one other than Dick Allen with his post here has suggested that Mr. Reinsdorf has "screwed all of us", per se. But he has FAILED US. Failed us on so many fronts over the years, they're too numerous to count at this point! that is the best way of putting this situation and can carry everything into a i have and many others have stated. but i hate to say or to continue to state that it falls back to the onwer. i still like and extremely happy about the WS. now with what is happening since. that is where i am angry about. but oh well. accountability, pointing the finger, i will ask this, who should be blame for this fall??? at least this off season and the success the team has so for been identify and they will build on.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 06:15 AM) Saw him at ND a few years ago. I am pretty sure he scored a hat-trick. I was telling my family he would be a future-Hawk and to pay attention to him. Looks like I did well. it would be great if the hawks got another player that develops into a theo fleury.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 03:19 AM) Yep Reimsdorf is trying to screw all of us. i am not taking sides on this. but this is a vague statement. by default he is or trying to do. no matter what any evidence someone points out or uses and even try to use logic to defend. JR as representing the owners who said that the sox can not afford to go forward to rebuild without the fans spending their hard earned money. now for those who wants to jump on me, how many games do you attend esp if you live in chi?? have any been a season ticket holder esp after the 2005, how many partial season tickets have you brought. also there has been some posters, admin / mods / and regulars who just submit a 1 sentence response, who i suspect is trying to agitate the situation or some know poster using other accounts to attack posters..... double standards here.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Oct 17, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Perhaps they can find a way to fill some of their holes with complementary/stop-gap types, but, if they are in Year 2 of this Year 3 (imaginary) plan, they need another Abreu in the middle of this lineup. I think the glaring holes at 3B, SS, 2B, DH and C may have hidden that the middle of this lineup is missing at least one bat; obviously Abreu will bat 3rd most days, but what bats 4th? Melky Cabrera is in the mix and he's a good hitter, but they need another 30 HR threat in the middle of that lineup. I'm assuming C and 2B will be filled internally and SS/DH are likely too be so they have to lean on existing players to improve for the most part, but they really need a difference maker and all the better at a need position. just a question to all, do the sox really need a 30 hr a season as a player to be get. i mean dunn was that kind of player. a 30 hr guy with a batting avg of 230 . i think a hitter, who has the ability to hit 20+ hrs, and avg hitting of 270 avg, and has a contact of rate to k's stat.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 01:10 AM) Micah was the 3rd best hitter when he was sent down. Melky, Eaton and other luminaries had lousy starts. Re 5, indeed, the front office deserves blame as well. They continually chase declining veterans, as if they're an answer to anything. Heck, they even brought Beckham back, afraid to cede the utility infielder job to one of the bevy of infield prospects they had in AAA. There is a lack of creativity throughout this organization. what i am about to post, i will answer this in a simple statement. without ranting on a recurring theme i have been spouting about. ref ~ is all about the money, showing the fans they are trying to do something positive but had bat luck, and just maybe get a player who will rebound. ref the rebound, hestor noesi type of success. the other, something like adam laroche, beckham. it like a reclamation but hoping for a little credit while avoiding some criticism. a inexpensive investment and hoping that it will work. just my opinion.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 17, 2015 -> 06:00 AM) So what are the top 5 hitters looking like? (Long long ways to go. Just curious) that will be sooo subjective if you think about the way the so call experts rank them as well if you think of hs'ers or college players. also if one will take this on the mock draft, those that are out there and have done a couple as of right now, even then it is still varies. for me, at this time, i look and will keep the fan graph early draft as the bible, b/c they have a nice write up on the profile for each of their projected 1 rounders.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 06:48 PM) As I wrote in the piece it's the "which came first, the chicken or the egg debate." Are there more Cub fans because the Tribune Company force fed attention to them since it helped their overall bottom line business-wise or were they simply 'giving the fans what they wanted?' Again you can only go back to the historical record and before the Tribune Company bought the Cubs it was roughly a 50/50 split with the team that was doing better on the field getting a little (notice I said a little) more coverage and about roughly the same attendance wise..the team that played better drew better. After about 1983 (when the Cubs were still closing the upper deck late in the season for lack of fans) that dynamic changed dramatically. Mark and that was the first time the sox had a chance to do something, which they did, they went to sport vision.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 04:32 PM) No it shouldn't be that way. There are more Cubs fans than Sox fans. Why would media outlets spend the same amount of resources on each? That's a bad business model. The Cubs are more popular so more time should and will be spent talking about the Cubs. ethically the news, which the sports is, should be without favoritism and preferences. however at this time, when only one club is making news, esp news for the fans in competition, such as baseball, the sox will not see any mention what so every. outside that, both should be fairly equal. now is it??? it doesn't matter, the sox had their chance and oh well.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) If we had held our bullets until this offseason, we wouldnt be forced to pass on Heyward, Gordon, Cespedes, Zobrist, Wieters, Chris Davis, etc. Now we're stuck with second and third tier options, especially on the infield (Desmond, Asdrubal Cabrera, etc.) The odds of finishing higher than 4th in the ALCD are pretty darned low barring major changes in personnel. If we hadn't spent prematurely, we theoretically could have added Zobrist, Wieters and another bat like Gordon to have a really interesting team this coming season. But instead they're going to be lucky to get Parra, Pearce or Rasmus...and probably won't make another move since they're stuck with Avi, LaRoche and Cabrera. They also should have foreseen Rodon with his control issues wasn't going to slash and burn through the AL like one of the Mets' young phenoms. but the one unknown factor in this, which no one is saying. the JR factor. he wanted another WS before .... well you know the rest. so i wonder how much of an input he had to go all in last yr??? was he wrong???? i personally thing he was not wrong. did it all worked out, nah.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 04:34 AM) Frazier will cost a couple of mid level prospects at most and shores up a position the league is thin on. I want whoever is cheaper between Fowler and Rasmus. I think that will be Fowler and I don't think either will be as expensive as you think. I could be wrong. Murphy is the one I fear will be the most expensive. Lastly, by cheap, I mean in comparison to what the major players are going to get like Heyward possibly at 175million. Murphy, Fowler and Frazier would be much better use of those resources. i have been thinking of Rasmus the last couple of days.... i was just wondering.... does any still think the issue with his father is still prevalent?? would it be a problem?? next i read on mlb trade on a discussion of Rasmus interview and how the rebounded nicely this yr. of course i am paraphrasing the article .... basing on that article, can he flourish on the sox team??

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 05:24 AM) Yeah, word is he's going to get a QO from the Mets. Which is crazy to me... He's got a decent bat for sure but he is a butcher on defense. It seems like he's going to get a 3-4 year deal worth 12-14 AAV. That's pretty steep for his past performance. I've said it already but I like Steve Pearce a lot. He's a good case for a guy who could hit 15 HRs and have good rates if used correctly. It's so hard to even guess stuff with the Sox because they have so many different places they could use improvements but Pearce could DH/1B/LF and even 2B!!!!: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/steve-pearc...ng-second-base/. He's a cheap option for thump. i think it is a great move. if he doesn't sign a draft pick. if he does, trade bait. if not, then the mets really don't have a 3b in the wings, and in the minors, they are 2 ss prospects that may be ready, one can be converted to 2b.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 05:24 AM) Yeah, word is he's going to get a QO from the Mets. Which is crazy to me... He's got a decent bat for sure but he is a butcher on defense. It seems like he's going to get a 3-4 year deal worth 12-14 AAV. That's pretty steep for his past performance. I've said it already but I like Steve Pearce a lot. He's a good case for a guy who could hit 15 HRs and have good rates if used correctly. It's so hard to even guess stuff with the Sox because they have so many different places they could use improvements but Pearce could DH/1B/LF and even 2B!!!!: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/steve-pearc...ng-second-base/. He's a cheap option for thump. well i was going to post this after the playoff, but i can seem to pry myself from this site for a couple of weeks as i hoped for a rest, so here goes. it is now time for circling the wagons and hoping that the sox will do something great. i have hope in this and i will let the results show itself. after the playoff, a lot of things will happen with the baseballs execs and i for 1 will be excited. yeah i am among the biggest gripers on the sox management, but this is like a new time to do it right..... can't wait. there are some really interesting fa's on the marketed and this is going to be like a nice mystery book to read. who will be signed and hopefully by the sox.

reading the exchange of a couple of good posters, it brought up a very interesting subject, and it alot about myself and really got me thinking. this is for all, no snarky intentions or petty bs. i am being honest. what will the avg sox fan considers a good season??? now i will start this, the winning ugly season was great.... the early 90's when it came close. and of course the WS season. so as i was in the 30's making a game of the season and enjoying the excitement at the park. 83 was a great yr. the yrs of having a great team and me biitching about if only management would have gotten 1 more player. those yrs of being close. no need to say anything of the WS season, even thou i had my first heart attack and operation during the playoff. but now, i guess it really depends on life experience of the fan. i want nothing less than to make the playoff with a good team. individual players winning awards. your next........

QUOTE (shipps @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 10:08 PM) What about Bobaks near Archer and Cicero? i don't remember the big dog, hot dogs yous guys are talking about. i living out side of chi, i really miss my chi dogs, when i go back i hit taylor street and get a bunch of hot dogs there with beef sandwiches. down here, i just deal with nathan's dogs.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) And I think it makes it much easier to send him to/from Rockford i was a little confuse there, and i wasn't looking at the big picture. many thanks to all.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 08:05 PM) I'm inclined to agree, I think people overrate titles, especially in a sport as random as baseball. The Tigers/White Sox question is a good one, and since we've been so starved for baseball championships in this city people would lean towards the title, but in most cases I'd lean towards the Tigers here. For another example, in my opinion the Braves making the playoffs 14 years in a row and only having 1 title to show for it >>>>>>>> Marlins winning 2 titles randomly and sucking the rest of the time. the marlins way of doing it is a whole different lion in sheep clothing. but for me, winning the WS title is the best, b/c of the yrs of the last one in the chi land area, i am including both chi baseball team. all these yrs of the sox playing second fiddle to the north side in baseball and for me, since the 1960's. now that the first one is taken care off. who knows how i would deal with it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 07:53 PM) How about I choose both? A WS win and a sustained run of success? This WS title is gonna end up being a curse to the franchise with fans thinking like you. i think it will be a curse only b/c the fans finally got their wish. a WS, and the fans knows it can be done and they want more.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) According to the last Business of Baseball by Forbes, the White Sox were 20th in MLB in total revenues. 20th is also where the White Sox finished in overall record this year. 1 team that finished behind them in total revenue made the playoffs this year. 9 of the 19 teams in front of them made it. 5 of the top 10 teams in total revenue from the 2015 list made the playoffs. there is more to that than what you are just skimming. ref the forbes and i been doing more reading on that. the biggest difference i found and i do not have the link here with me at home, but it is at work. i am home b/c of surgery to my foot. so it may take me till monday to get it. but as i was saying the big difference in this valuations is the definitions of certain things and what can be claimed. cost of goods is not claim nor is the cog's revenue. the sub contract companies that is claimed. rental of the concessions is not claimed. all these little things that adds up to the final tally of what is profit is not taken into the forbe article. believe you me on this. as the primary board members by vote of the board is JR and his personal wealth is 1.2 to 1.3 billion dollars. so saying that the team in general does not have the resources is really not a true statement.