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3-18 in looking up some of the prep prospects, i started to read on a player i like, Kyle Tucker. i still think he will climb into the middle of the 1-rd. but here is his profile as of yesterday. he is 6'4, left handed, who weights a generous 170-175 lbs, 4 hrs already, natural power, very good defense, great approach to batting, k's - little, great eye. perfect games profile.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) I don't agree that expulsion from a public university was appropriate. It seems like a pretty clear violation of their first amendment rights. I have no idea why you're talking about video games, but if they made a game that was explicitly racist as the song they sang and was essentially a pro-KKK game set in 1920's Mississippi or something, it would be even worse than the song just based on the effort of that versus singing a song. It seems like you're still thinking the biggest problems with the song are that they used "n*****" or that it was somehow speaking approvingly of generic, non-racist lynching or something. At least that's the only way I can get to you video game comparison. The problem with the song isn't some sort of generalized approval of violence, it's specifically the racially targeted, white supremacist violence. no matter how sterile people / administrators / government tries to make it, people will have ugly thoughts based on anything. my immediate problem, is how the school over reacted and now will give more news coverage to this stupidity. b/c of all the lawsuits that will come from the students and their parents. why, b/c their civil liberties, their rights, were violated.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) I agree. I thought the Sox had turned a new leaf with Hahn, but the Beckham signing showed it's still kind of the same old White Sox. Might the other 25th man options suck too? Sure. But I'd rather watch someone else swing as hard as they can and pop it straight up, than see Beckham do it for the 485th time. He's the poster boy for the Sox struggles the last six years and their inability to develop any position players whatsoever, yet they don't want to get rid of him a great post and a new thought i never thought of. i like the loyalty and no one will or can anything bad about the sox owners for this, real old time school of thought. but today, this season, esp with the use of advance metrics, baseball is taking on a different approach. this team has 3 weak points now, maybe 2 depending on spring training. 1 major part is backup who can contribute, both offensively and defensively.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 05:33 AM) Montas got 3 consecutive Ks, but also got hit around a bit. He threw almost exclusively fastballs as far as I could tell. He did get a K on a hard slider though. fastball and maybe a slider..... dang, i really hope for more work on his 2nd and 3rd pitches. we all know about his fastball.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 05:25 AM) oh I agree in my world Paulie would have retired after a symbolic first AB last year or something like that. It's annoying. I'm a bulls fan as well, yea it's annoying. i honestly want to say, imo the sox weren't too sure of what kind of player they had in Jose A. so they needed insurance just in case, plus it gave them, the sox a nice chance to say good bye to Paulie.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 05:11 AM) Of course they are but what are you going to do? Nobody that's talented enough to be a starter is going to sign to be a backup, and a s***ty backup like Beckham costs 2 million. Other than the Dodgers and Nationals and maybe the Mariners or Red Sox there isn't a single team that could survive injuries to say 2 of their top 5 players. Yea the Sox need Sale and Jose and Eaton and so on to say healthy -- but so do the vast majority of teams. Nobody really has a great bench, otherwise those guys wouldn't be on the bench. Occasionally you get super teams but not very often anymore. I'd be shocked if anyone in the AL won over 95 games and I think 88 will take the 2nd wildcard. edit: they should have signed rickie weeks there were other options avail. options that were and will be backup next yr. as i said, i do not want to bash the owners nor beckham, but this loyalty things the owner has is a little too much sometimes.

Tues, 3-17. vandy - win - Dansby Swanson ss - batting #4 - 3 ab, 2 runs, 2 hits, 1 rbi, 1 bb, 0 k's miami fl - win - David Thompson 3b - batting #4 - 5 ab, 2 runs, 2 hits, 5 rbi, 0 k's, 2 hrs new addition, been watching him since the cape, was hurt before. power hitting 3b.

let me also say, i am not trying to ugly here and bash Gordo or the owners group. but sometime i am wondering if the owners group are fully aware how fragile this team is without full backup options. i mean not playing favorites or looking for the right deal. this team is so freaking close.

in today's game, was there any players making a name for themselves. how did montas do. beck etc....

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 02:00 AM) No, I'm aware GB is on the 25 no matter what, it would seem. Just think he won't be given the longest leash, even as a utility guy. They'll realize they made a mistake, and move on, relatively quickly. here is a rhetorical question, what will or what would be the catalyst to, as you say, move on??

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 02:00 AM) No, I'm aware GB is on the 25 no matter what, it would seem. Just think he won't be given the longest leash, even as a utility guy. They'll realize they made a mistake, and move on, relatively quickly. you have a point in the late addition to your previous post, about buying out the contract. i would never assume that the sox FO would have done that, but they did. i just don't know if they would admit it again and buy him out.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 01:51 AM) Exactly. There were many other ways to go that could have been a better fit to round out the bench. But, in the end, it should be a minor quibble, and hopefully Saladino or Sanchez or somebody else is given a chance to supplant Gordo at some point. i would like to disagree, Gordo is going to get paid 2 mill, Gordo will make the team, whether the fans, agrees or whether they like it.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 12:23 AM) I have no issue with Saladino and others, but I think the Sox also value having Beckham on the bench and think there are other aspects that he can provide and I think there is probably a bit of a trust factor knowing that your bench player was a starter in this league for quite some time (a good one, no, but a starter nonetheless). There are a lot more unknowns about the other guys being discussed and to be frank none of the other options have the pedigree of a guy like Gordon. Right, wrong or indifferent. I liken my bench to have versatility and I think the Sox bench does have that. I am not a big fan of either guy being discussed (Gordon or B) to be frank. None of them provide much upside but they are bench players who have experience and bring some value, albeit limit, when used appropriately. I have a bigger issue with how much we paid B vs. how much we paid Gordon to be honest. If I were to make a bet of who'd be a better player from a pure value perspective, I'd make my bet on Gordon and I don't like Gordon. I also don't think the 2M will get in the way of moving to another guy if Tyler or Sanchez proves they deserve the extra time. I do think the Sox see value in some of the intangibles Gordon brings to the equation, which can be just as important, including his ability to work and help Micah (a guy we are putting a lot of pressure on). earlier in the offseason, the front office was b****ing about lack of money and fans, money does matter to the sox owners group.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 12:16 AM) While I agree on the first sentence I can't say as much past that. Despite Hahn saying so, it's arguable he is average at 3B defensively and his bat is well below average even when platooned. I am not going to validate giving someone a bench spot based off of them becoming on expert on bunting. The things you mention that make him a decent bench player would hold also true for Tyler Saladino. Saladino is a better infielder (surely on the left side at the least) and a better baserunner/pinch runner than Beckham. I am less confident that Saladino would be a better hitter than Beckham but it's not really much of a bar to beat. If he could hit league average against LHP he'd be a way better bench player than Beckham. While a lot of people aren't fans of Beckham as a player, my biggest gripe is the opportunity cost. We could have had Saladino and a RH defensive OF, strong RH bar or extra 5th starter type. Obviously the bench isn't going to full of all stars, but you want these guys to bring at least one great quality. Jordan Danks was lost with the stick most of the time but I felt great when he came in a defensive replacement. Bonifacio isn't going to carry the offense but he has speed and flexibility. Saladino may never amount to more than 50 MLB PAs but, right now he can come off the bench and pinch run late in games and defend just as well if not better than Beckham. What does Beckham bring? Above average defense at 2B? Color me un impressed. When GMs are building their Championship team they don't pound the phone lines looking for a bench player who can't hit against any type of pitcher and turns a good double play. I don't think anybody has been making this case against Beckham because of his Spring Training stats but those stats have certainly further enforced that argument if you value ST stats. The same people arguing against his utility and practicality (Eminor, shysocks, myself) can be seen doing so on the day he was signed: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...=94456&st=0 Fortunately, to make this move, I think the Sox must think very highly of Beckham as an individual. It's not really a desirable position to be in for him, Gllaspie/Micah/Sanchez or for Robin and the coaching staff. So the Sox front office is definitely giving him a vote of confidence to handle the mental aspect of his assignment. excellent analysis of the signing and background. all this reminds me of a sox owners loyalty to players who were good soldiers, so to speak. now i am not belittling or criticizing, i am just speaking the truth. 2 mill for him, when the sox could have gotten Everth Cabrera for a little more money and he would provide a better option. but what the hell, our idea and obviously the front office idea are so different.

QUOTE (asindc @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 12:38 AM) I think Johnson's play is promoting Johnson. brian anderson maybe beckham.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 12:52 AM) If Beckham didn't start the past few years with the organization, I think we would have a different opinion of him. I think the reality is this is one of those someone elses trash is our treasure type scenario and Beckham is still our trash and we all remember him for being a starter (and he wasn't a good starter). I don't know what Gordon will do off the bench but in a bench role, I have a hard time arguing against him not being a useful utility guy, given he can play solid defense at 3B and 2B and is a pretty good baserunner, etc. He'll also have to become an expert at laying down bunts should circumstances warrant it, etc. Bottom line, is Beckham great? No. Is he the best bench player in the league, no. But I'm not going to jump to crazy conclusions about him based upon his spring training stats. I know he's a lousy starter but if managed properly he could provide some value off the bench as a depth guy. I think any of us would be thinking the same thing had he not spent the previous umteen years as a starter for our team. and i think you are really being kind. for me, i was a fan, at sometime, i came to realize all this suppose potential is never going to be reach. maybe that is why i am angry, disappointed in him as a player. in addition, getting 2 mil for what he is going to provide??? they, the sox FO could've done better. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beckhgo01.shtml

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 12:23 AM) I was really hoping Soto would come in hitting and showing he was healthy to take over flowers. Flowers should be on a short leash. flower is the incumbent, so it would be for anyone else that needs to really show more.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 18, 2015 -> 12:04 AM) Hell let Thompson stick around another couple weeks and see what happens. Let him battle for a spot. His defense is an asset now at MLB level. a great idea, but wouldn't he still be around if he is being talked about going norht??

this is an old mock draft dec of 2014. but soxtalk was briefly mention. if this posted before, pls rmv http://minorleaguemadhouse.com/2014/12/24/...-0-part-1-of-4/

i missed this. Duke - Michael Matuella - sp was on a limited pitch count due to arm soreness. 61 innings pitched, 3 hit, 0 er, 0 er, 4 k's, and 14 bf (batters faced) score board, ncaa mens baseball recap.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2015 -> 06:52 PM) I kind of wished that Bonifacio would play every position for us as the primary backup other than pitcher/catcher, but now it seems like that won't be the case. i have a feeling that Bonifacio will play in important role, once the season begins or more importantly when it becomes crunch time around late july. just my hunch.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 16, 2015 -> 05:01 PM) This is confusing. There is now college ball talk going on in this thread, the draft thread in FutureSox, as well as an NCAA thread in The Diamond Club. well as i mention, several post up, i wanted to keep a update list on some prospects i think will be in the area of the sox draft, and other prospects that i like. while this can not be said it is an official draft info, like mock draft, i thought it would be in the ncaa baseball. if the mods and admin wanted me to stop, i will. i didn't want to cause any confusion. i thought it would be nice.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 16, 2015 -> 02:39 PM) He was better than them last season when he didn't get in a game. Right now, he isn't better than those guys if he were put on the mound. Hopefully he gets back up to snuff but I believe he had a shoulder injury, and you saw how it changed John Danks. Crain's recovery is taking longer. I wouldn't expect the 2012 Jesse Crain to emerge this season. If it does, it's a huge bonus, but to think he will be anything more than a mediocre 6th or 7th inning guy this year is really pushing it IMO. Apparently it was bicep surgery. Here is an article from March 22 last year. He thought he would be game ready at the end of April or the beginning of May. http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2014/...ury/#21129101=0 i like crain but all i would say, with out pointing out the real obvious point, is we the sox fans can get some service time from him. otherwise he will not make a dent in this collection of arm the sox FO have assembled. the players the sox signed, he players from last yr and whatever arms that may be considered, this is the strongest group the sox have.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 15, 2015 -> 07:23 PM) I've seen a couple people say he's the best prospect in the B1G. He's a buddy's cousin so I used to play him all the time. I played him as recently as 2012 and he was a very short, slight dude. I don't know if he had a post high school growth spurt but he's listed at 6' 1" 185 and when I was 18 I was 6' 165 and probably bigger than him. Obviously official listings are always generous. Keith Law is a huge fan though and says the stuff is top notch. Another guy to watch is Dillon Tate out of USCB. He's going to be moving up the boards now that he's dominating in his first stint as a starter. while the profiles has him as a reliever being compared to chris archer and huston street, then they moved him starting where he is dominating with a fastball up to 99. http://presidiosports.com/category/baseball/ucsb-baseball/ http://baseballdraftreport.com/2015/03/10/...nd-dillon-tate/ http://indians.scout.com/story/1521349-201...rhp-dillon-tate

sunday, 3-15-15 sunday results. lsu - win, Alex Bregman 6 at bats, 3 hits, 1 hr, 3 runs, 0 k's and 3 rbi batting #3. cincy - win, Ian Happ, 4 at bats, 1 hit, 0 hr, 1 run, 1 k's, 1 rbs. batting #3 fsu - DJ Stewart, weekend update. had 3 hrs, multi hits, great weekend for him, batting #3. fla - JJ Schwarz is a catcher who continues to bat, as a dh. 3 ab, 1 hit, 1 run, 0 k's, vandy- Dansby Swanson, 4 ab, 1 hit, 1 k, 1 rbs, batting #3.