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QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 04:01 PM) Looking at Rodon, I see a lot of comparison to David Price in terms of career path. Price was drafted in 2007, but didn't play. In 2008, his Age 22 season, he made 19 starts at various levels, and went 110 innings. Then he made his Rays debut in mid-Septmber, and basically was a reliever for the postseason run, and got 20 more innings. Total- 130 innings Then he went back to AAA to start the 2009 season, Age 23. He made 8 starts/34 innings, and an unspectacular 3.93 ERA, but was called up in mid-May. He then made 23 starts for the Rays, over 128 innings, and had his struggles--4.42 ERA. Total- 162 innings Then he went on to have several great seasons starting at Age 24, with mostly 200+ innings. He had one year where he missed about 6 starts. The Rays went 105-65 in his starts. If the Sox are getting Rodon for 6-7 years, let's play this right. He's 22, and has 24 minor league innings under his belt. He needs innings, and there should be no rush to move him up. My hope is that they really don't need him before September, but can use him for their own postseason run. You never know what the need will be during the season, but at the very least get about 40-50 innings in the minors before thinking about calling him up. excellent analysis.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) I don't think speed and explosion was missing from his game the last month. He's had that back since the summer and it was only getting better. So if that's what you guys are going on, i'm confident he can, barring another injury, be a really good player again. Does he need to evolve his game a little? Yes. Does he need to be more of a facilitator? Yes. Can he still take over for 3-4 minutes in crunch time? If healthy, yes. Obviously i'm being optimistic today, but there would have been no chance in hell that I would have traded Rose after one injury to his knee at age 23 given his talent and marketability. After 2 surgeries I would have looked around and started planning for a possible future without him, but I still would have planned for him to come back and be a part of the team. Which is what they did by bringing in Pau and bringing over Moritic. This third injury was always a risk and happens pretty frequently. Everyone overreacted. It's not another major injury, so I don't think it plays a huge part here. It's just s***ty timing and interrupts the whole teams ability to gel going into the playoffs. and therein lies the point, he has to change his style of play, he will NEVER have the speed he had pre injury, but he can become a better overall player, IF he develops it. now with any more injuries, which i hope not, he can be that player who says "i could have been great" and i will agree. this is a shiiity thing that happen to him. now the bulls have to start looking into moving forward without him and address that in the draft at some time. also how to compensate and play the game with out him and of course with him. 2 totally different philosophy of playing.

i just saw Kingsman, it is a great brain dead of a movie that was made for entertainment only. a great use of 2+ hours. for me a 3 x going back to the theater to watch it.

its like a recurring STD disease that keeps poping up.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) Westbrook is about the same size as Rose. size does not matter, it is the different talent make up that make players different.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 02:42 PM) Are you 100% after any surgery? No. Can you function at an incredibly high level again? Yes. It's not like he would have been the first to ever come back. can you play at a high level, good question. several different answers for that. when someone who has a vast amount of talent, i can't see why not. but when one has a key ability, speed, it will diminish his overall use of his talent. Rose speed and his ability to make it work is what made him special. take that speed away, how do one compensate for that?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 08:11 AM) It matters to Mark Teahen and Jeff Keppinger, haha. outside forbes and some other independent reporting agency, that was the best kept secret the owners had. look at the sox this yr, we the fans didn't know about it until mid offseason. thanks to you.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Well that's insane. Guys come back from knee injuries all the time. Look at Westbrook right now. You don't throw away a max, franchise guy without giving him a chance to come back. Would you have gotten rid of Jordan for breaking his foot? i will interject on this by saying, while technology has improve, a person will never be the same after a knee surgery. Medically it is impossible to have the structure of the knee be stable.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 09:47 PM) how little does $4 million matter in MLB anymore? https://twitter.com/AugustF_MLB/status/575358607908192256 that TV deal and the money coming in is really good.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 05:23 AM) I will counter that. Because Micah has a high ceiling, he should be on the 25 only if truly ready to face major league pitching. Just beating out Sanchez doesn't mean he's really ready. Putting him in the majors before he can hit major league pitching, often stunts prospects and brings on bad habits. but if he continues to hit during spring training, should we as fans expect to see go north with the team? should we expect the sox to send him down to continue to work on his defense, even thou he is hitting?

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 02:49 AM) Contract isnt that bad, they owe him $33M. The sox would have to eat half of his salary this year to get a fair return i wish it wasn't true, but it is, i am a huge fan of Danks and i have to see the writing on the wall, so to speak. however i am leaving some hope, his bulldog mentality, that he will learn to become a better pitcher by using what is left to become a better pitcher.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 03:39 AM) Rodon can force his way up any time he likes IMO. If the Sox are looking good then I'd love to have him in the bullpen mopping up the days Danks is throwing meatballs or any starter is struggling. Yank them early and maybe Carlos can grab 5 innings. If he destroys AAA then I think Coop can find some use. if he destroying AAA ok, i like the way you are thinking. the bottom line is, i really don't give a rats arse, if he pitches 75 or 100 or even 150 innings. what i would like to see is development time, a fresh arm for when the sox needs him. the sox will need him and all that he has, when playoff time comes around. he has to develop to warrant time in the majors, he may even be that missing piece the sox needs to carry the momentum the sox way. yeah grabbing whatever innings that he and the rest of the bullpen can grab, to help the sox win. excellent post.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 10:43 PM) He's had his best player for the playoffs one time and he made it to the ECF and lost to a super team. Thibodeau has had one season where his team didn't have home court advantage in the first round of the playoffs and they had the #5 seed. If any other Chicago team had their coach lead them to 1st, 1st, 5th and 4th place in their four seasons as coach no one would ever say anything negative. The egos in the FO of the Bulls are ridiculous. Phil Jax vs Jerry Krause

QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 11:10 PM) I wouldnt choose either. I think they have all excelled in their jobs and have done all that's been asked of them. As I have said before its a damn shame they cant be professional and get over their differences with one another because I think that its all worked well. They haven't won a championship and have had failures in the playoffs but obviously bad luck has been a huge part of that with the injuries. I think after Rose getting injured the next two times after the first shown that we can forget about blaming the injury on Thib's over-working the team. i agree, but as it stands now, according to the media, Thibs is the one on the outs, if anything, i would like to keep Thiibs and let Gar walk.

QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 10:57 PM) Its just a blame game when you don't win championships and your fan base has the expectations that you are close enough to do so. The fact is, both Thibs and the FO have done a wonderful job at putting together a team to compete with the rest of the league given salary cap constraints and the lack of options. Thibs has done a great job with what they given him and brought along some young guys throughout the years that I dont know if many people even believed belonged in the league. The FO picked up talent that they felt would work well with Thib's and he delivered. Its really been a great marriage of the two other than what has gone on behind the scenes. Its really sad that this wont ever play out with a happy ending because I think there were some really great basketball minds and leadership to win at least one with this regime in Chicago. nice, i like the post, but let me ask this question, who would you choose to be gone, Thibs or gar/pax or gar?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 09:58 PM) All you have to do is look at the players who have changed teams in the NBA, and know that if the Bulls wanted to, they could have gotten into deals for just about any of them. But they don't. They tied their wagon to Rose. This team has need another star even with pre-surgery Rose... they still haven't gotten it done. i agree again, but would you say they also tied their wagon to Noah??

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) That is total crap. Explain to me how GarPax were able to turn Jimmy Butler into an all-star? Or able to turn a steady stream of mediocre PG's into useful players on an NBA roster? Or turning Taj Gibson into a guy who would start on a lot of teams? Getting 10 more wins out of a team then most anyone else would is the very definition of over-achieving. From a pure talent standpoint, without a healthy Derrick Rose, this is a mediocre talent team. It is a .500 team, or worse in the modern NBA. very good, actually it is a great point. i am and will always say Thibs is a great coach. but someone can point out, it took a gar/pax to draft them.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) I listened to a pretty good interview with Logan Morrison on 710 ESPN here in Seattle the other morning where he talked about learning to control his emotions (both negative and positive) and how for most guys it only comes with experience. Personally I'd rather have Micah build up his confidence in AA or AAA for a couple months and then re-evaluate the situation at 2B. MLB is not the place to learn this stuff. There isn't much upside in having him the starter and Sanchez only seeing action once or twice a week and say for instance (and it could very well happen, a hot spring means little to nothing when the real games start) he struggles out of the gate and is hitting 180/220/300 in late May -- then what do you do? It makes so much more sense to start with Sanchez and have Micah in AAA knocking down (hopefully) the door. i will have to say this, i never thought that Micah will be doing so well this yr. it is really making it hard to even think of him being sent to the minors. i mean, if the player plays and hits very well in spring training, then all would imagine that he earned the job. wouldn't you think??

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 07:10 PM) http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ing-2015-season The Sox were ranked 21st just six months ago. Before you guys all ask, the Cubs are #3. now this is what i and many other are talking about...... how can no-one get excited. 2015 is the yr.

3-10-15 living in Louisiana, the big deal down here is all about LSU. just found out, and i may be wrong, but LSU baseball just got ranked #1. i went and looked up their players and wanted to see their stats. interesting. 3 sp's with 4-0. does anyone LHP - Jared Poche' , RHP - Jake Godfrey , RHP - Alex Lange all freshman who were drafted and decided to forgo the draft and went to LSU. there is a 4th freshman as well. 2017 is their next draft opportunity. http://www.lsusports.net/fls/5200/assets/d...ec.htm#TEAM.MSC

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 07:51 PM) Heard that too, and I completely agree. I just want April 6th to be here, and have Sale be the only minor problem. oh i agree here. i want a whole season of no injuries. this can be a great season.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 07:41 PM) Hurt himself doing a bunt drill. Ouch. Separate topic, but he had a PED suspension a couple years ago. Look at his dad... https://twitter.com/CBSSportsMLB/status/573901160886595584 i really hate to think or say this, but i think i know where he might have gotten the PED's.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 06:36 PM) You really are not making any sense. I never said that Rodon would be an instant success. You are the one who said that Sale spent time in the minors and that is the reason he was successful so quick. I was simply pointing out that you are full of s***. Sale spent basically zero time in the minors. Every post I've made on here I said Rodon should be in the 150-160 inning range. I challenge you to find where I said any different. temper, temper. so if i said what you claim i said, show me the link..... prove it to me!! i posted the link where you said 150 - 160, you are right there, i got you mixed up, but assuming that he would go from a 123 college inning to 150+ innings in the majors is very unrealistic. why is there a need to rush him. but it does not matter what we, the fans thinks, it is the coaches.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 07:38 PM) That's unfortunate. I thought he was a difference maker for the Blue Jays this year. an injury is an injury, but at least it wasn't his arm.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 07:32 PM) Wow. Marcus Stroman out for the year. Torn ACL holy crap, when did he get injuried?