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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 02:54 PM) Literally, putting money aside is cheating in this one. Obviously more people would rather have the latter on players alone, but come on, it's 3 players and you're saying "putting money aside". One of those will cost $250 million over the next 7-8 years, one will cost $40 mil. Let's try making the money approximately even. Who would you rather have 1. Quintana + Scherzer or 2 Upton, Gattis, Lester. even tho i like Lester, i will pick #1. i have never been a fan of Upton

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 04:36 AM) Feels like a fair deal for Donaldsons "Baseball card stats", but when you throw WAR into account and the fact that he's calculated the 3rd most WAR the past 2 years it looks like the A's should have gotten more than the Jays #8 and #13 prospect, an overratted and oft injured Lawrie, and what looks like a real good SP but has only done so in 1 year. REal puzzling deal for the A's IMO. maybe that is the best they were going to get. i think the ss was the key to the trade. that pitcher isn't bad either.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 03:08 AM) Shocking. Cannot understand the deal for OAK at all. Oak killed in that trade. that was a nice return.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 02:52 AM) Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports that the potential trade that the Athletics are working on does not include right-hander Jeff Samardzija. Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reported that the A's are close to what was called a "very significant deal" and that Jeff Samardzija was likely to be included. They do appear to be on the verge of something significant though and are expected to receive multiple players back in return. Stay tuned as this story continue to evolve. Source: Ken Rosenthal on Twitter dang, when Billy B decide to move players, there is not cobwebs on him. he make the trade quickly.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 02:34 AM) Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 3m3 minutes ago the very reliable @susanslusser says the a's are working on something significant, tho. they need SS, 2B, bats. Alexei? well earlier a post, there was a list of teams that were interested. the A's were one of them, but not for a 1 yr rental.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 03:19 AM) When there are rumors of a 3-way trade, you certainly can't rule the White Sox out. dang it, my mind is in the gutter.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 03:04 AM) It gives the media something to talk about yeah i am for that as well. i enjoyed the debate.

i was reading mlb rumors and they had an article of the 2 ace pitchers in this yr FA. well they are guessing that Lester's camp is wanting a 7 yr contract. with that, i am officially getting of that sinking ship. now, who is that team wanting to get rid of their #1 pitcher?? Marlins. anybody knows of him??

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 03:03 AM) I agree to an extent. Has Boston been linked to him in the past? Samardzija isn't that big of a name, and Boston is a team that wants that recognizable name honestly. i am thinking Marlins or sCrubs

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 02:12 AM) You're right - it's not going to happen and is stupid... Putting money aside thou, what would you rather have... 1.) Jose Quintana Or 2.) Justin Upton, Evan Gattis, and Jon Lester or 3.) Quintana, Lester

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 01:43 AM) I mean I think of Viciedo as completely worthless. If I were an opposing GM I would not give up anything for him unless it removed a salary I didn't want on my roster. yeah i thought so and to tell you the truth, i am thinking the same. i was always writing about how he hit 20 hrs and that in itself is something, which it is. but on this team next yr, he needs to do more. then again i am extremely bias against him.. thanks

QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:22 AM) Move the fences back at the Cell. Tell Hawk Harrilson it's time to retire. Tell Rick Hahn to keep doing what he's doing. Start selling Gluten free beer on all levels. i was really thinking of that. that would really throw the whole dynamics off.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 11:13 PM) I would not give up either of those for Viciedo. Not unless the "busted prospect" was also being paid $4 million after inexplicably being offered arbitration when he should not have been. pls clarify are you saying that it is too much to give up or not enuf?

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 11:31 PM) It's not out of the imagination. I think Anderson, Danish, and Michalczewski are strong bets to make it to the big leagues. Then you just need 2 of May, Engel, Wheeler, Dykstra, Mitchell, or Lowry to pan out, of which I like May and Wheeler's chances a lot. there is 1 other player i would add to the 5 or 6 that is being discuss, it is Brad Goldberg, i had him on my top 10 in the beginning of last season. i still have faith in him.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 11:44 PM) Again, I don't believe this will be the last move. But I don't think they'll make moves as if it is a a 2 year window either. (which is all the Sox will have if they keep Alexei, trade top prospects for Jay Bruce, various rents, etc. as people on here suggest). This team won 73 games, and it's not like you can point to a bunch of injuries or inexplicably down years. These short term moves to power up the team at the cost of prospects will put the Sox in 85 win purgatory. I hope they make an aggressive move to get the young outfielder in here (by trading Alexei). I hope they sign a moderate starter (like Hammel) and pick up another reliever to get this team to .500. And then I'll wait a season, maybe 2, for the minor league pitching to get ready and hopefully Anderson. i disagree with some and i can truly agree with the others.. the one part i disagree with is the bolded. people can point to the problem, that problem was the pitching. outside the top 2 pitchers, the others in the rotation was pitiful. that damage was done by the time the sox somewhat address it. the sox was able to get some semblance of pitching later. just improving the pitching alone will add more wins. by reaching and getting players to fill the holes whether it is 1 or 2 yr deals, the sox by this, will be staggering themselves to add players thru natural attrition. also whether to further address it via a trade, then so be it. finally the sox can get a sp, rp and lf and this team will be alot better than last yr.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 11:06 PM) By who? It's common knowledge the award is a joke. Derek Jeter won 5 at the same position. i normally don't say this, but show me an article of what you are saying. lastly if it is a joke, then why do mlb still have it??

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 11:00 PM) I really wish I could find Kal or qwerty's post about the SS versus CF debate. if you are mentioning it, it must be a good one. care to give a brief synopsis of it.

you guys deserves a lot of congrats. you manage to assemble a huge amount of info for these players whom the sox drafted. that was alot of info that was gathered for this article. many, many thanks for your hard work.

i still say a comp pick with money or an int'l pick with the money allotted to it. that will be an idea trade.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 10:33 PM) No, as I already said I was laughing at anyone who thinks being a finalist for the GG means anything. then why is there alot of emphasis placed on the GG award?

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 10:33 PM) interesting...... here is a breakdown on different parks. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...ar=2014&t=b

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 10:10 PM) 3 of the last 4 years, the Rogers center has played as a better offensive park than US Cellular field. interesting......

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 09:07 PM) Eek. Just read Victorino had ham string issues and back surgery. I'm not so sure his value equals that of Danks. I think Boston would have to chip in a bit more. Here's a recent article... http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseba...der-for-red-sox everytime i read about a ballplayer having back surgery, i am leery of there rtn to full health. back surgery is a beachhhhh. but with ref to Victorino, i am no medical person to gage it. still going back to the previous talk, and this as far from reality as me winning the lotto, Danks for Victorino is a good gamble.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 09:27 PM) So they were flawed 3 or 4 years when they were in Alexei's favor too right? Or just when you choose to disagree with them? or when you are trying to find a way to justify your own thoughts. how much proof is needed for you to say you were WRONG.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 09:17 PM) They spent a moderate $25 mill for 2 years, without giving up a draft choice, to get some competence at the DH and to give Abreu some much needed relief playing 1B. This team won 73 games last year. They'll be ready when some of these young players are ready to go. They aren't yet and you can't win without them. again i disagree, if this was the last week of spring training and this is the best the sox did to improve the team, then i will wholehearted agree with you. this is not the case, the sox have not finish addressing the so call holes.