NUKE_CLEVELAND

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) I got banned for busting Mark Liptak's (a.k.a. Lip Man 1) balls. AHHH WSI. I posted there a couple of years ago........until I got sick and tired of the fascist speech police they have on their moderating team. They are totally ban-happy over there. You utter one syllable that might possibly offend someone and you're gone. f*** them.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 27, 2005 -> 11:59 PM) http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...cago-white-sox/ Solid F'n preview.... That's the first truly intelligent preview of the Sox I've heard. Most of the boneheaded "pundits" say "they lost Lee/Ordonez they are gonna suck". This one actually looks at what they gained for a change and did a good job of it.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) - Says he's 100% healthy. - Says he didn't even hear about the Pierzynski trade rumors. In fact, Buehrle says that AJ has been great in the clubhouse so far. Buehrle even hangs out with him and knew him from Japan. Apparently, they are buddies. - His injury was just a freak accident while shagging balls. Says that he was goofing around in the outfield. - Asked if he had heard that Konerko called him the worst player rep ever, Buehrle replied with, "AWESOME!" He said he wants to lose the job. - Says Sox fans should be optimistic about the offense. The offense is alot better than people have been saying. - Predicts Rowand, Uribe, Konerko, and Everett to be All-Star possibilities. - He will be our opening day starter. Here's to MB winning 20 games this year.

Anyone here know when Doom 3 is coming out? I heard it was going to be out around this time.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 04:05 AM) Did I say hurt others in the process? Let's not make it a moral argument... And please tell me you've never jay-walked...didn't drink when underage...Not all laws need to be followed so strictly in order to keep peace... So now, because you dont like a law, it can be flouted at will. I can't believe you're likening jaywalking and underage drinking to foreign nationals violating our border. You're contorting yourself every which way to try and justify this and making yourself sound more and more rediculous in the process.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 12:52 AM) With a family to support, sure. So its ok for them to break our laws to support their families. Gotcha. Does that go for someone who sticks up a gas station to pay the electric bill? How about someone who burglarizes a house to buy baby food for the little one?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 12:48 AM) The "legal channels" are a joke. Oh........so that makes it ok then.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 12:38 AM) Exactly. But by immediately kicking them out, as is being suggested, they would not have any opportunity for naturalization. Doesn't it matter to you that they violated our laws in coming here illegally when there are legal channels that will get them into this country?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) What I mean is that better efforts need to be made by both sides to find a common ground in which legal access to work here is made fairer. Until then, people will cross illegally as long as their is a need for them to work to support their families and such and a demand here to employ them. I'm just not a supported of treating honest, hard-working human beings so disrespectfully and, at times, inhumanely. Edit: And we're not gonna turn into iraq...That's just ridiculous... Thats the same point I've been trying to make all along. I realize there is a need for migrant workers but the way we're getting them now........with no controls or screening........is totally ludicrous.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 11:59 PM) That's your opinion. Sorry. You know something sleepy, there is another country where people run across the border willy nilly like this.................. ..................it's called Iraq.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) I'm just making a statement of fact that there needs to be more trained officers out there. That's all. Calm down, Nuke I AM CALM DAMMIT!!! I AM TOTALLY f***ING CALM!!! CAN'T YOU SEE HOW f***ING CALM I AM!!! NOBODY ON THE PLANET IS MORE CALM THAN I AM NOW!!!!!!!!!!! I AM CALM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 11:48 PM) There needs to be greater efforts to patrol our borders with special agents who are trained and know what the f*** they are looking for not Billy Joe Bob Steve Carl Frank with his rifle out there. Nobody ever said Billy Joe Bob etc...etc... was the answer to this problem. This is a protest move designed to bring attention to a problem and based on the new enforcement effort in that area announced by the government today it appears to be working already.

QUOTE(CubKilla @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 11:36 PM) My day just got better. 1 less lawyer in the world. CELEBRATE! I'll drink to that!

Happy B-Day tough guy............... ............and many more!

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 12:05 AM) I consider it the ultimate sport when played at the highest level. Certainly enjoyable to watch. The majority of the world seems to agree... Don't get me started on golf and nascar. You mean Golf..where they hit a little ball into a little hole a few hundred yards away? You mean Nascar.....where they drive around in circles and stop for gas every now and again? Gotcha!

http://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/citation/index.html

I don't know why any of this upsets you guys. They do the same s*** all the time and like the thick skulled morons the are they will keep doing it as long as they have breath in their lungs. You know, kind of like Moronatti.

My thing is how can they say the Flubbs rotation is so great when they lost Clement and didn't replace him ( or did I miss something ). seems to me that all they have now is a banged up Prior and Wood ( which they will be lucky to get a full season out of between the 2 of em ) and Zambrano.

Am I the only one who looked at that thread title quickly and thought he was heading for alcohol rehab or something like that?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 10:21 PM) Even LCR! I'll bet he appreciates the compliment. I am not avocating allowing free access. What I am saying is if you waved a magic wand and removed all the illegals, our economy collapses. Maybe your job doesn't resuire training, but every Border Patrol Agent I've talked with hates these guys. They judge everyone as guilty until proven innocent and each Agent believes bloodshed is going to happen. The Agents run special operations along the river and worry that some vigilante is going to get in the middle and start shooting. I guess no one wants to try and answer why a Doctor and his familty from Canada can spend 6 months out of the year vacationing in America but a Mexican Doctor and his family can only spend 3 months. Could it be we are treating LAW ABIDING Mexicans worse than Canadians? I'm certain the color of their skin has nothing to do with it. This effects my local economy greatly. Wealthy Mexican families love to come to McAllen, South Padre Island, San Antonio, and other cities and tourism spots. Yet they are limited far greater than tourist from Canada. QP, most of those million dollar condos you passed on South Padre Isand are owned by Mexican Nationals. They are a huge contributor to the border economy. They are harrased by these vigilantes who see themselves as some modern day Rambo. I believe to patrol our borders takes some training and knowledge of our immigration laws. 2 Things. First off do you at least agree that there has to be some sort of control and screening proram in place so we know who's coming here to pick fruit or whatever the heck it is that migrant workers do? Second do you agree that visa restrictions stopping a wealthy mexican family from visiting for very long are a seperate issue from illegal immigration?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) your ilk?? Learn a little about our agriculture before smarting off. Our f***ing economy collapses without migrant workers. What have we become when US CITIZENS have to be subjected to harassment by vigilantes who are questioning every MEXICAN -AMERICAN they see? They have no training and declare every Mexican they meet as illegals. Nice that you defend freedom, too bad it doesn't extend to MEXICAN AMERICANS who you seem to think should all be suspected of being illegals. And read through the Congressional Medal of Honor winners. A lot of Mexicans are represented, some where not even citizens when they enlisted. And even after being wounded or killed, this country still will not grant them citizenship. Like I said many times already in this thread, there has to be control. We need to know who is suitable to come here and who is not ( criminal record, disease, etc etc.).

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 09:44 PM) That even in LEGAL entry into the US we have different laws for Mexicans and Canadians. That in addition to the BILLIONS of dollars that illegal immigration costs us (and I dispute that number) we are costing ourselves BILLIONS of LEGAL, TOURISM dollars as well. LEGAL tourists from Canada (where the terrorists came through) are allowed more TOURISM days to spend money than Mexicans. This is LEGAL tourism. What's the point in restricting Mexicans more than Canadians in LEGAL TOURISM? Illegal immigration is saving us BILLIONS of dollars a year. What does having our food produced overseas do to our national security? You dispute that number? California alone spends something like 2 BILLION dollars on all manner of services for these people when they dont belong here in the first place. I also dont see the relevance in the visa laws in relation to this issue. The people running across the southern border are not headed for Lake Havasau or Vegas to spend a weekend in a hotel living it up. To assert that illegal immigration saves us money is ludicrous. Even you should be able to see that we can't have thousands of people crossing illegally every day. HELL even LCR sees that! You want our food produced here thats fine. There has to be some control though and a guest worker program, where we can at least screen who gets in and who doesn't, is the right answer there. People crossing willy nilly with no controls is a grave security risk and it is one that gets worse every year because of people just like you.

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) So then why do you insist on reelecting the people who are falling down on the job? Every time someone tries to do something about this your ilk labels them as racists and the screaming gets so loud that they back down. Blame yourself.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) Making a living, supporting themselves and their families...it just doesn't seem very criminal to me. You do it legally then I have no problem. You run across the border in the middle of the night and you should be prosecuted and deported. Sorry.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 12:45 PM) A family from Canada can spend 6 months travelling the US and a family from Mexico only 90 days. Because if illegal immigration? What? So if someone from a country commits a crime, we punish the whole country? BTW, it's costing American business billions in tourism dollars as wealthy Mexicans travel to Australia, Europe, and other destinations. Illegal immigration is costing us BILLIONS of dollars a year. What's your point?