NUKE_CLEVELAND

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 05:14 PM) Having trouble getting this reported from a more reputable source but Drudge is carrying it as at least reported. cause of death an "extended illness". Was not aware of said illness. I got a hundred bucks that says Nicole Simpson is waiting for him in hell with that same samurai sword OJ used on her. Eternity is gonna really suck for this guy.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 08:00 AM) I'd be interested to hear Tex's solution for fixing the problem of illegal immigration, since I think he is the only one who lives down there. Myself, I firmly believe that we need to make it impossible for illegal immigrants to be granted amnesty and/or citizenship, ever. I also would make anyone who is convicted of an illegal border crossing permantly unable to take part in a guest worker program (which I also believe needs to really be done). I believe that action encourages the "just get there" mentality that has people risking their lives daily to cross the border. If we remove all possibility of reward from someones illegal actions it would lessen the possibility of it happening. Also if we soften the chance of getting here legally, either through immigration or a guest worker program, people would be more apt to try the legal route. And finally on the race issue, people are simply playing the race card ala Jesse Jackson, way too easily here. The comparison was made to Canada, and I ask how many illegal crossings were made on the US/Canadian border? The problem isn't the same, and doesn't need to be addressed the sameway. It has nothing to do with what country is invovled.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-bobo29.html Had I been a mailman on that route Id have kicked that pint sized little thing for 3 points. I had to read this article 3 times to make sure there wasn't something I was missing here.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 07:11 AM) They have already started in some cases. There are a few groups so not all can be branded with the same iron, but there are many reports of these guys riding right up on people, brandishing weapons, and demanding to know why they are there. Scary stuff. We wouldn't put up with it in Downers Grove, why in my neighborhood? There aren't any illegal border crossings in Downers Grove are there? When you see thousands of illegal aliens trying to cross the Tri State tollway en-masse then you can make that comparison.

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 06:43 AM) Ya know I don't really know which way I swing (No pun intended ) on this issue of gay marriage / health benefits / civil unions, but who the hell is the ACLU to assume what the people meant in their vote? Ahhh once again the all knowing ACLU sticks their nose into something. Haven't you heard? They are god! They are there to think for you because you feeble minded masses can't do it for yourselves. :rolly

Tex. how is this "hate group" and their actions relevant to the group in question in this thread? Like I said before. Their purpose is to observe and report and thats it. Maybe the media and the left should spend more time looking at real hate groups in that area instead of giving these guys all this negative press.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 06:45 AM) Nuke, look at these guys. They talk about rounding up all the Mexicans. There are a lot of legal immigrants along the border. Are you saying it would be ok for these vigilantes to detain US citizens at gun point? How would everyone here like guys driving around your neighborhoods detaining anyone on your street? I guess all that training we provide to Border Patrol, Customs, and other law enforcement agencies isn't necessary. We'll just send these guys. As far as the racist comments, of course it doesn't apply in all cases, but visit one of their websites, look at the pictures, and make your own conclusion. Like I said, anytime some wacko group is doing something the GOPerheads like, they defend them no matter what. I think that's just ridiculous. (but hey, I've got a spell checker ) One of the factors between legal and illegal immigration between Canada and Mexico is we have different rules for each country. Canadians are allowed freer and longer access to the US. Which is one reason terrorists came in through Canada, not Mexico. What did I say before. Their goal is to observe and report any illegal border crossings they see to the proper authorities. That's it. They're not going to round up anybody.

AHHH Ask and I shall recieve. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7317822/

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) Somebody is trying to bring attention to a problem, to get the focus of the nation on it. I don't know how someone can automatically jump to the conclusion that this is racially motivated. Like I said before anytime someone speaks out against or proposes action to deal with illegal immigration they are immediately branded as racist by the left. I think that's just rediculous.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 02:16 AM) Green or not, that's some f***ed up s***... Anyways, why deny racial undertones? Let's not pretend that racism isn't alive and well today... "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! But only if they're white!" I dont have a problem with LEGAL immigration, you know, the type where we know who they are, whether they are criminals or of they're infected with some disease or something. We can't have thousands of people running across the border every day like that. Can't you see? California alone spends a couple of BILLION dollars on social services for these people every year for people who aren't citizens of this country. It's just maddening to me the thought process of you people. Lets take a look at what these evil vigilantes are doing. They are staking out a 20 mile stretch of the Arizona border with Mexico. Their stated purpose is to observe the border and if they spot illegals crossing then they will report it to the proper authorities and thats it. Its not like they're out there hunting them down and killing them for chrissakes. BTW my little comment in green is no less silly or f***ed up than your type branding this group as a bunch of racist rednecks.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 01:40 AM) I do think that *some* of the people engaging in this are ignorant racist twats just as some people who are involved in anti-war stuff etc. are ignorant slogan chanting twats that can't justify their position to save their lives. I do think border security is something that needs to be addressed -- especially in a time when borders/imports are porous as all Hell while we're being told we need to have our civil liberties curtailed to "stop terrorism". HOLY s***! We agree on something!!!!! *cringing in anticipation of a lightning strike*

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) I only use them to download music. I guess I'm a criminal then? Yeah. You certainly are. Soon an FBI swat team will crash through your windows and take you into custody for the unspeakable crime of downloading music. Dont you realize that by illegally downloading music you are keeping rappers from their dream of 32 platinum teeth? Dont you realize that your criminal activity is preventing Lars Ulrich from having a Humvee AND a jaguar for every day of the week? Can't you see that because of people like you popular musicians are forced to live on a paltry 7 figure income?!?!?!? HOW COULD YOU!!! OHHHHH THE HUMANITY!!!

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) Those same people who are working at companies that do not offer health insurance are also doing without, possibly their whole family. Why not work towards universal coverage so that all Americans have access? Haven't we been over this ground before?

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 12:08 AM) Do you not believe that these vigilante's motivation is at least partly racially motivated? If not, then I imagine pretty soon we'll see plenty of white Europeans being targeted by these vigilantes. After all, plenty of Europeans still enter into this country illegally. Why don't they come out and flat out tell us what the deal is, instead of hiding behind labels like "concerned citizens". As someone once said, 'It's bad enough you're a racist, don't be a pussy too'. Just for laughs why dont you look up some statistics............. ...........like these............ http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIssueCent...fm?ID=1183&c=13 ...............from the INS and Census bureau. If it wasn't obvious that nearly all of our problems with illegal immigration come from our southern border then this makes it crystal clear. Once again. Blindly labeling people as racists because they want something done about a really serious problem in this country is the wrong answer. If the Bush Administration would do something serious about this problem then maybe these redneck racist fascists would fold up their rebel flags go home, clean their guns & lynch a few n*****s instead. :rolly

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 11:14 PM) http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...ood-050328.html Also at link Republican politician explains how US erred in logic much more at link This is a very interesting situation that I have not looked into much until today. Along those same lines the latest Voelker report is due out soon and is widely expected to criticize Kofi Annan for being negligent and slam his son for being complicit. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7316534/

QUOTE(Jake @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) where's paulie on there? He might be the early leader on opening day.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) There are message boards that people post over 500 times per day and have over 600,000 posts. Those are dudes who A. Have no life and B. Have a job ( or lack of a job ) where they have time to post all day instead of doing anything meaningful.

My vote was for neither. I get paid pretty well and I have full benefits but I think I'll still be in for a career change come the fall of next year.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) These guys are embarassing to southern rednecks. To some Mexican-Americans this is similar to the KKK, except these guys can wrap themselves up in the US flag and lots of Americans buy the act. Ask yourself do you want a bunch of guys with Southern Stars and Bars flags riding around in the back of pickups patrollling your neighborhood? HORSEs***! . and HORSEs***. You make these people out to be racist redneck fascists etc, etc but that's OH so typical of the left's reaction anytime anyone wants to do something about the problem of illegal immigration. I'm so sick and tired of hearing people yell racism every time someone wants to do something about this problem. What these guys are are a bunch of concerned citizens who are tired of the federal governments inaction ( and LCR stole my thunder on this one ) on the border because of fear of alienating the latino vote. This problem has spanned many previous administrations and I think it's time Bush spent some of his "political capital" addressing this very real problem. The guest worker program is a start but there has to be some sort of a stick to go along with that carrot. You guys love to jump all over the right when we label left wing anti-war protestors "hippies" "commies" and the like but you are doing the very same thing yourself now that the shoe is on the other foot. This is, indeed, a form of protest whether you choose to believe it or not.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Mar 26, 2005 -> 01:17 PM) Replacement players = busted union. The "real" players will start trickling in, whether it's career fourth-liners looking for one more payday or young guys looking for a break. Then more will cross, then a "name" player will cross and it'll be all over. That WILL happen, I have no doubt. I can only hope that Bettman and Goodenow both lose their jobs over this. They're both incompetent. Gary Buttman has done more damage to the NHL than all his predecessors combined.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) Dan patrick says if you add one more mvp to franks resume he is a hof'er I think people will take that into consideration when it comes time for Frank to get voted on. In an era when the majority of the biggest boppers were juicing up he stayed clean and put up monster numbers with good ol fashioned hard work.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 08:19 AM) So far I am scared about this guy. I hope this pans out. If he still is getting rocked at the end of April then I'll be worried about him. ST is just exactly that.......training.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) Awesome article, gotta love the Buerhle mon. When you come right down to it Mark Prior and Kerry Wood and their whiny, b****-made attitudes can't hold MB's jock strap. Give me the Burly-mon over those 2 drama queens any day of the week.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) Because the media and fans don't want a black man with the HR record.... LOL! What the fans dont want is a lying, cheating, roid pumping whiny b**** like him holding the most prestigious of baseballs records.

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 09:16 AM) Stone again: He's on fire! You gotta love Stoney. He always tells it like it is and sometimes the truth hurts. As I said before, he was the only one in that whole organization with any integrity and they forced him out for it. Damn shame.