NUKE_CLEVELAND

I cant believe how hypocritical you are. You expect action from the President but you have done nothing but b**** and cry about all the action we've had since then. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq nonwithstanding, you whine about the Patriot Act as being hard on civil rights yet it was lauded by both sides during the 9-11 hearings as being an important and necessary tool for coordinating the fragmented intelligence gathering activities of our country. You cant yell at Bush for doing nothing about terrorism in one post then yell at him in another for overdoing the response.

I'm so glad you are open to dissent. I'm also glad that you take factual evidence of Clinton/Gore being alseep at the switch as "rhetoric" So asleep at the switch were they that the chairman of the 9-11 commission Thomas Kean said "It scares me that we dismantled the CIA so much that it takes 5 years to rebuild it". Who did the dismantling? Thought so. I didn't expect to change any minds here, just point out facts and point readers in the direction of a very good book.

Do you know what "Actionable" intelligence is?? "Actionable" intelligence is when you get a tip from somewhere stating that a certain person or group is going to do a certain something at a certain time. Does it say anywhere in those briefings that that attack was going to happen when it did? Does it mention any names aside from Bin Laden who by that time was underground? Could they have put out alerts to the airlines about this? Absolutely. Would those alerts have forced a postponement or scrubbing of the attacks? That's debateable. It's funny to me that your side is so eager to create a smoking gun, a single defining moment ( on Bush's watch of course ) that could have either allowed the attacks to go forward or be prevented. It's not that simple at all. The fact is that the seeds of this attack were sewn during the decade of the 1990's. A decade of complete inaction to respond to the growing threat of terrorism. Thank god we have a president who is "INVOLVED" enough to take measures to correct the problem now that it happened.

An involved president?? Are you implying that Bush is not "involved"? Ever since the towers got knocked down it is you and those who think like you who think Bush is too "INVOLVED" in dealing with terrorism. To say that Gore and Clinton would have done something about this is ludicrous. These are the same people who gutted the CIA, FBI, NSA and the Military during their time in office. These guys got really "INVOLVED" when the Trade towers got hit the 1st time.... They got really "INVOLVED" when the Kobhar Towers bombing took place..... They got really "INVOLVED" when the USS Cole was attacked..... They got really "INVOLVED" when the embassies got hit back in 1998..... They got really "INVOLVED" when N. Korea renigged on their non-proliferation deal resulting in them being allowed to acquire nuclear weapons.........the list goes on and on and on. The ever vigilant Clinton/Gore team pointedly refused to back a simple initiative proffered by Dick Morris which would have made the drivers licences of guests on visas expire the same day as their visas did and that INS records and those of the state's DMV be tied together for these people. Had they not been worried about offending their Hispanic base and being accused of racial profiling THREE of the 19 hijackers would have been arrested and deported. In the months just prior to the attacks the following people were stopped by the police: Mohammed Atta: Ticketed for driving without a licence. He doesn't show up for a court date, bench warrant issued, no further action, till 9-11 that is. Nawaf Alhamzi: Ticketed for speeding in OKLAHOMA CITY of all places. Zaid Samir Jarrah: Ticketed for speeding in Pennsylvania on I-95 2 DAYS BEFORE THE ATTACKS!! Go get yourself a copy of Dick Morris's book "Off With Their Heads: Traitors, Crooks, Obstructionists in American Politics, Media and Business". Biased to the right? I think not. Not only did he work for Clinton as his pollster but he totally savages corporate America in his book. An excellent read.

Just like the Konerko Bashers and Botch supporters around here I'm thinking he's got a bad case of "Foot in Mouth Disease".

Jeremy Roenick ( Philidelphia Flyers ) Mark Burhle ( White Sox ) Maggs Ordonez ( White Sox )

Yeah, go ahead and throw it that fast right down the middle. Just make sure you duck right away cause it's coming back at you at least that fast.

I wonder if Billy Botch will still be smiling and cracking jokes when he's on a Greyhound bound for Birmingham.

I wonder if the weather is still too cold for the Flubs hitters.

Witesoxfan totally punking out the slugs who make up the ESPN power rankings after they make the excuse for the lack of offense from the Flubbs as being a result of "cold weather".

PUNKED OUT!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!

How remiss of me to not mention Kevin (The Rocket) Appier with his blazing and amazing 78 MPH fastball. Beware Maggs and Thomas & Konerko, with a fastball like that you may fall asleep before it gets there.

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This was taken from the latest power rankings on ESPN who have the Flubbs in 6th place despite a mediocre start. Blame anything except for the fact that they blow ass.

You can add Kevin Appier to the long list of power pitchers we must fear and respect in my "Who's afraid of the big bad Royals" thread.

What if it was Paris Hilton's intelligence?

Wanne. That guy couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. I was so mad when we would lose big time and he'd say it was ok cause we "put in a good effort". Please. Thank god he's Miami's problem now.

The Flubs locker room is turning into a hospital ward. LOL!!! f*** them. Serves em right for the pompous arrogance of their fans and the constant WS predictions of the Media. SI curse anyone?? LMFAO!!!!!!!!

I think the Bears finally have enough weapons to stay with these teams. I'm looking at them finishing 9-7 barring anymore moves this offseason.

Lets see here. Put him on the DL with a bad case of choking and gagging.

What's this if business? If KW resign's Billy Botch then he should be stood up against a wall and shot.

Hey, Maybe Ozzie will give you a shot at being the closer.

I know what to do with Botch. Give him his scrub brush and let him wash dirty jock straps in the locker room during the games.

Keith Who? Foulke? I didnt see a whole lot of him cause when he pitched it was usually for one inning maybe 2 and those innings were usually over pretty quickly. I'd run to the fridge for a beer at the start of the inning and by the time I got back they were already celebrating another win.

Wunsch can be the setup guy when he gets back with Marte Partay as the closer. Too easy.