southsideirish

Chances of people listening to you when you tell them they have to play better get a lot worse when you are hitting .250 and grounding into double plays every other at bat. That being said, I agree that Paulie will be better this year.

Sir, I respect your opinions. First let me say that just because he talked to Joey Cora does not mean it is ok just to dismiss the phone calls by Kenny and Ozzie. I am sure they all talk, but it is best if you show the respect to your bosses. If they call you, you should call them back just out of respect. A lot of what you say seems to be speculation mixed with fact. I agree he can't waive the 5-10 clause. I agreed they tried to trade Frank. I don't agree that they won't be able to or that he won't agree to a trade. I believe Frank asked to play 1B on the road last year to keep himself in the game as there is not a batting cage on the road for him to keep loose between innings. I can see him playing there more often if he was asked or if he asked to. Again talking to one of the leaders on the team, the veteran on the team, the "best player to wear a Sox uniform," is a lot different than talking to Joe Crede or any other player on the Sox for that matter. Frank for all intents and purposes is the White Sox to the public. That is why it is a bigger deal when he is not contacted than any other player you can name. This was not made negative by Williams and Guillen. It was turned negative by the media. However, Frank could have avoided all of this if he would have just returned a simple phone call. If you think Frank plays no part in what is happening then I don't think you could be further from the truth. He played a part in it as much as Guillen or Williams did. They are all to blame for this fiasco.

I'm in aggreance with you. I don't think Frank will ever make it easy on Kenny to trade him.

OK. The White Sox just hired a new manager. This new manager seems to want to coach in a totally different style than the previous manager. Maybe Kenny needs to know how he feels about this. If he wants to play 1B more often. If he is on board with how the team is going. I think Kenny should know these things before spring trainging starts to see what pieces he needs. Maybe he has to trade Frank if he isn't ok with the direction of the team. I think if Frank had just returned Ozzie's phone calls then Kenny would have not been involved. Just my opinion but I don't hink he would have. I also think you are speculating a little bit that Frank hates Kenny and Kenny hates Frank.

There is talk that a decision on Larry Fitzgerald's papers case may not be settled until after the draft. This would then make him eligible for the supplemental draft. The Chargers, if they take Manning, could end up with both Manning and Fitzgerald. They would still be the #1 pick in the supplemental draft, it is just if they are willing to give up a 1st rounder for him next year. Now that would be a hell of a draft. Manning and Fitzgerald, WOW!!!!

I never said he had leadership qulaities. However, being "the best players to ever put on a sox uniform", as one poster put it, and a veteran of the league and team puts him in this position. He is naturally looked up to by younger teammates. Younger teammates seem to be all Frank has these days. Whether he want's it or not he is one of the leaders of this team.

Steff, since you decided to get off the baseball subject like you promised then let me ask you this. You never gave me an answer to this question and I would really like it to be answered. You continually try to pound us that we shouldn't care about the player's personal lives. What they do on their own time is up to them and that is the way it should be. It shouldn't be reported and it shouldn't be any of our business. Then why did you feel the need to share what you did about Ray Durham last week? Here is what you shared: Posted under kenny williams interview, here is what he said Here you tell me Ray Durham's wife's name, you told me he kept his townhouse for over a year after he was traded, he was not a big drinker, that he was the designated driver on road trips, and that he has some type of faith in God. None of this is needed to know and I didn't ask for it to be known. This portrays you as a hypocrite. Or are you just a big name dropper and feel the need to share these things to make you feel better about yourself? I would like to know who sets these guidelines as to what we should know or shouldn't know about someone's personal lives. You? Should we only know the good and not the bad about someone? Please let me know as I am really confused about your stance. Get back to me as soon as you can. Thank you!

And what is your point? He still did not return calls to the people who called him. That is still disrespectful any way you want to spin it.

So you take 8 weeks vacation at one time?I don't think that is the case. You make it clear to the owner of the company and your supervisors that you should not be contacted? I don't think so, however I will take your word for it. When you are off for 2 or 3 months at a time it is nice to have some contact with them. In this case, as you have stated, he is the team's best player. Perhaps the best HITTER in team history. This alone makes him one of the leaders on the team. By him being one of the leaders on the team it only makes sense to get into contact with him to make sure everyone is on teh same page. We just hired a new manager who seems to want to play a completely different style than the previous manager. This is a big change. I am sure if there was a big change like this while you were on vacation then you would be contacted by your boss as well. If you did not return a call for another couple months then I am sure there would be something said to you as well. I respect your opinion that he has his time to himslef and he does, but I think he should have more respect for his bosses during a time like this.

You are correct. He does. I am not saying he is a bad GM, just not a great or the best GM. Look at his talent though. All of the really good players have been home grown. He hasn't had to make any moves to put his team over the top and quite frankly when he has had to or tried to they havent got them over the top. Jermaine Dye, Johnny Damon, and Ray Durham are just 3 that come to mind. I think he gets way too much credit and his scouting and minor league system get zero.

How much do you get paid? How long are your vacations? I don't believe that it is a "vacation", it is just considered the offseason. He should still respect his boss enough to call him back. He doesn't have to be at his boss' beck and call as it seems you are implying, just a little common courtesy of a return phone call is what they are asking for. He is wrong for not returning his boss' phone call. There is a lack of respect that goes along with that. Kenny returned the favor by showing Frank a lack of respect by going public with that. They are both wrong with what they have done. BOTH OF THEM ARE WRONG!! :banghead

Why the hell was my post deleted?

Why should he? Many fans appreciate the honesty of his answer.

Actually he was asked if the statement in a newspaper article was correct. The statement he was asked about was if he was angry that Frank didn't return HIS or Ozzie's phone calls. Then Kenny stated, "No, I'm upset he hasn't returned MY calls."

I don't think Kenny would have had to call him if he returned Ozzie's calls. It is just called respect and from what I have seen not one of them has that for each other. Just my opinion.

Aren't those the same questions that we ask of all GMs, including our own Kenny Williams?

He has made some pretty bad moves. I think the thing that has carried him is his 3 young stud pitchers. I think his scouts and minor league system has a lot to do with that. I think Beane gets way too much credit for the As organization. I think he is a good GM, but not the greatest.

It just seems that everyone, or most people, here seem to agree with this now. In the beginning everyone was jumping down my throat for making such a statement.

I just read a comment by Aaron Rowand this weekend in the paper. He said that Frank is fine and that everyone is blowing this way out of proportion. I think I said about the same thing in the beginning and everyone jumped down my throat for saying that and said that Ozzie just shouldn't have said anything. Ozzie even reiterated what he said at the press conference at sox fest. He was quoted that Frank has to play the game right, but not just Frank, everyone on the team. He also said that there shouldn't be a problem with anyone about this. Like I said this whole thing was blown way out of proportion and was a lot to do about nothing.

I am with you. I would love Trump to buy this team. I think he is a competitor and would love to compete against Steinbrenner. That scenario would be a dream come true. Trump already has a ton of money from other businesses. I think a baseball team would be like a toy to him. It would be great!! And yes just spending money to spend money may get us to be like the Mets, however it could also make us the Yankees or Red Sox. The guys with money will always have the advantage. I would like to be one of those guys.

It sounds understandable to me. I believe I have heard many players say the same thing in all sports.

its my opinon and Im entitled to it!

I think it is all speculation either way. Both of you guys have solid points. Aboz, there is no way you can state these things as facts as you have no idea what the White Sox are thinking. There are many directions they can go in and this certainly looks like one of them. Seal can not possibly know if Reed will be a solid major league contributor as even the best scouts in the world are wrong on certain players. I did enjoy reading your posts and both have good arguments. I can't wait to see Reed, but I can wait long enough to make sure he is ready. If the Sox determine he is ready this year and trade Magglio for some pitching then I would be fine with that as well. The Sox definately need a leadoff hitter, speed, and a left handed bat, so I can definately see that happening if they determine Reed is ready. Something no one here knows for sure.

I thought I heard he was yelling at him to get on the scale. Then Alfonseca ran and hid somewhere so Dale wouldnt be able to find him.