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Ditto. I've been as frustrated as anyone about the past few seasons. Most of that frustration stems from the fact that Kenny has gotten the players and we've had, on paper, playoff caliber teams made to go deep in the playoffs, and still come up short. I haven't always agreed with his decisions, but there is no doubt in my mind that Kenny has World Series intentions in most of the moves he makes (Garcia move last year, Everett/Alomar part 1 and the Colon trade have proven this to me). And to assume on Dec. 6 that Kenny isn't going to do s***, when he has gained a reputation around baseball as being one of the busiest in the business, just makes no sense. But I'm sure that even if he makes a big move, some of you will find a way to pass it off as a fluke, so I'll just stop here. :sleep

Why do I get the feeling that there isn't a GM in the league that you'd be happy with?

I was actually big on a trade for the Big Unit. But if he doesn't want to play here, f*** him. I prefer players who want to play for us over players who don't. A big :fyou to Randy.

I said SOMEWHAT comfortable. With our history at the position, I'll never be completely comfortable with our QB's.

Believe it or not, I'd actually feel somewhat comfortable going in to next year with Grossman, Hutch, and George as our QB's. Compared to this years situation, thats like going with Elway, Marino and Montana

I understand the learning the offense bit, but in the end, Krenzel and Quinn were so bad, why wait till now? I'd take the guy who doesn't know the offense over the other two. Still happy about the win though. Happy returns from Urlacher and Tillman. Didn't hear much from Moss today, did we?

Happy with his performance today, but can't help but wonder why he wasn't in there 3 or 4 weeks ago. I could tell from the first drive that he was light years better than Quinn and Krenzel.

For what its worth, although this is a terrible situation for baseball, the Big Hurt could be one of the few players that benefit from all of this. If it weren't for all the bloated, steroid-induced stats in recent years, Frank's numbers wouldn't be so overshadowed and would have a stronger case for HOF. But in the end, this is very bad for baseball, and bad for everybody involved with the sport. You're a very bad man, Jason Giambi.

Octavio Dotel? :puke Great set-up man. Bad closer.

Gary over here gave me some dynamite pills.

I second that. Although, if we got Polanco, I'd prefer that Uribe played SS and Polanco play second. Either way, this option is better than some second rate 2B from Japan or Willie.

Of course, there's McKay Christionsen. I still can't forgive Kenny for giving up on him.

Man, if we only kept Jeff Abbott, Chris Singleton, Mark Johnson, Jim Parque and Jesus f***ing Pena, who knows how many championships we would have won. Damn you Kenny!

That'll send a message.

That picture has been available for quite some time. But, only recently have the seats been green. Plus, the renderings are a little more defined in this picture compared to the original. Either way, it really doesn't matter to me. After seeing the price tag for those seats, I don't think I'll be sitting there for the forseeable future anyway. I just think they ought to go with one color scheme or the other. No biggie.

Just saw this on the official site. Looks like a new image. If those seats are going to be green, I sure hope they all will, cause I'm not sure about the blue/green scheme.

Because you know Rentaria and Cabrera will play almost every day and give you gold glove defense and good hitting. With the exception of the hitting, you can't say the same about Nomar for the rest. With that being said, if the price is right, I'd take a chance on Nomar for a year. Unfortunately, he'll be asking for much more than he's worth, and in the words of Happy Gilmore, "the price is wrong b****."

Don't count us out yet. Levine is the same guy who said Visquel to the Sox was a done deal. I don't think we'll end up with the Big Unit, but I do think we are far from out of the running.

When it comes to prospects, it depends. Outfielders come and go, and unless you have that special can't miss superstar sitting in your lap, I have no problem trading them for immediate help. Pitching prospects are a whole different thing. And if you look at KW's history, he hasn't traded a whole lot of big time pitching talent from our system. Then again, our pitching prospects haven't amounted to a whole lot all together in recent years.

Maybe the Twins wanna become more like us? Koch is out there too, if they want him.

From Barry Rozner of the Herald this morning... World serious Don't believe for a second that the White Sox are only flirting with Arizona, because they're dead serious about chasing Randy Johnson. Sox GM Kenny Williams has been counted out of these races before and wound up winning in the end, so don't sell short his creativity and aggressiveness when it comes to landing the big fish - or in this case, the Big Unit. But what is the Sox' backup plan if they lose out, as they did on Omar Vizquel?

If we have to give up close to nothing, I guess I'd take a chance on him. But, anything I've seen of him hasn't been impressive. Giant headcase...we'd probably have to pay our team shrinks overtime with him on our team. Which raises the question, do we have team shrinks?

It's kind of hard to take your position on stereotyping seriously when your avatar... "He likes guns, he likes destruction...It's Nuke_Cleveland" ...seems to answer to the very stereotypes that Dems associate with Republicans. Either way, even though I am a self-proclaimed liberal, I do think those selected New Yorkers are taking the wrong approach. I am concerned with the direction of this country and think we made a huge mistake by electing a divisive president who answers to one side of the country. But we just have to suck it up. But what do I know...I'm just an elitist.

Oops. Somebody just beat me to the punch. Please merge.

Not sure if anybody saw this, but this was on the Trib site. Some interesting things in here. Sox plan to roll dice Club looking at Beltran, Vizquel By Dave van Dyck Special to the Tribune November 3, 2004, 11:10 PM CST White Sox decision-makers, starting organizational meetings in Las Vegas, have begun mapping out winter plans that do not include their own free agent Magglio Ordonez, do include free agents such as Carlos Beltran and Omar Vizquel, and may include dangling first baseman Paul Konerko as trade bait. These are clearly an important few days for the future of the team. By the time they are over general manager Kenny Williams hopes to have a salary budget for next season, one that could rise to more than $70 million. In other words, it will be a busy few days as Williams and his staff lay some groundwork for the Nov. 8-12 general managers' meetings in Key Biscayne, Fla. "The only thing I know for sure is what I want to do first," Williams said Wednesday in a telephone interview. "I'm optimistic about it [happening]." He would not reveal more than that, but the first move could be the signing of Vizquel, the slick-fielding shortstop and potential leadoff hitter from Cleveland, which has said it will not try to retain him. The White Sox can't sign Vizquel before Nov. 12, when free agents officially become completely "free." Vizquel, 37, reportedly wants at least a two-year contract worth at least $4 million per year. That's chump change compared with what Beltran—the hottest commodity among position players—will get. But that hasn't kept Williams, who apparently is hearing things through baseball's grapevine, from dreaming about him patrolling center field at U.S. Cellular Field. "I know we would be an attractive destination for him," Williams said, sounding sure of himself. "I know he has an interest. But it would do no good to get into particulars at this point." Williams does not expect Beltran to sign until December, after agent Scott Boras milks the last few pennies from suitors who are expected to include the Yankees. In an interview with "Chicago Tribune Live" on Comcast SportsNet this week, Boras spoke of a 10-year contract for Beltran. Beltran could command as much $18 million to $20 million per season. Boras is a major player this off-season. He also is the new agent for Ordonez, the Sox's right fielder whose relationship with the club has reached a very strange, and strained, point. Boras told "Tribune Live" he had had several inquiries about Ordonez, but none from the White Sox. "No, [boras] has not called me," Williams said. "I haven't heard from anybody since the change in representation [to Boras]. I don't think anything is going to get done before Dec. 7, so we're making plans without him." Dec. 7 is the date by which the White Sox must offer arbitration to Ordonez or lose draft-pick compensation if he leaves. It is doubtful they would offer arbitration because they might be struck with more than his $14 million salary of last season. As for trade talks, Williams says he is encouraged the hot stove league seems to be heating up before the GM meetings, which traditionally do not produce many deals. Sources say Williams may offer Konerko to other teams just to see what his value is. Even though he was the team leader in homers (41) and RBIs (117) last season, Konerko could be the big-name player going in any large trade this winter. During the final month of the season, it was determined Carlos Lee would be kept in the outfield, making Konerko vulnerable as trade bait. The Sox apparently believe Ross Gload is good enough to handle first base in a revamped lineup that includes more speed, less reliance on power and better defense. This doesn't mean Konerko will be leaving, just that Williams could shop him in an effort to lower payroll (Konerko makes $8.75 million next season, but gets $500,000 more if he is traded). Annually one of the most aggressive GMs in baseball, Williams said he may change his tactics this winter. "I'm trying to allow clubs to come to us more than in the past," he said. "Rather than try to shape the landscape, I'd rather let others shape it. "Although," he added, laughing. "that could change by this afternoon." By the end of the week, Williams hopes to have a payroll figure from club chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, who also is in Las Vegas. Last season the Sox wound up with a salary in the $65-million range, 15th highest in baseball. He will get at least that much for next season, but most likely more as the Sox try to end Minnesota's three-year hold on first place in the American League Central Division. Even if the Sox go to $75 million, it leaves them far from the big spenders in baseball. The Cubs are likely to have a payroll in the mid-$90 million range. World Series champion Boston had a payroll of nearly $130 million, but Williams says $75 million is a workable figure to be more than competitive. The two previous champions, Anaheim and Florida, had payrolls of less than $70 million. "I felt—and this probably sounds like a stupid statement—that in 2003 we had a team that could not only win the division but win in the playoffs and win the World Series," Williams said. "That team was not afraid of anyone. "Listen, if you want to play fantasy baseball, I could build a hell of a team. But we have to deal with the reality of the marketplace." And Williams, as always, is ready to start dealing.