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I'm starting to feel the same way.

Feel weird saying this, cause from everything I've heard AJ is a real dick, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

What he said.

Juan Pierre? Just a guess. I really don't know how good he is defensively.

He's also had, uh, one good year as a starting pitcher. I'd like Lowe as a fallback guy, but Clement is clearly a better option...even at the high price.

Clement isn't worth $10 mill, but good luck finding a pitcher that won't get overpaid this winter. There are certain positions that I'm willing to overpay at, and starting pitcher is one of them.

We better not wait till then. A lot of people on this board have had a tough enough time waiting 24 hours after the Lee trade for another move. I'd hate to see this place at the end of January if we hadn't picked up a SP by the time SoxFest rolls around.

Yah. Milwaukee...whoopie!!! Actually, there are some nice bars up there, so there is something for Carlos to look forward too.

Didn't see this posted anywhere. Lee bids farewell to White Sox 12/15/2004 5:15 PM ET By Scott Merkin / MLB.com The severing of ties between the White Sox and Magglio Ordonez in the days prior to the Winter Meetings could be described as acrimonious, at best, where the personal feelings expressed by the All-Star right fielder were concerned. But Carlos Lee, Ordonez's close friend and teammate for the past six years in Chicago, didn't show one hint of that same bitterness toward his former employers as he exited for Milwaukee and his first stint in the National League. During a Wednesday conference call in which Lee spoke from his farm in Aguadulce, Panama, the 28-year-old thanked the White Sox for their support and harbored absolutely no ill will toward the team that shipped him to the Brewers in exchange for outfielder Scott Podsednik, reliever Luis Vizcaino and a player to be named later. Lee's jovial and laid-back demeanor could be attributed to a strong inkling at the end of the 2004 season that he would be playing somewhere else in 2005. "I knew it was coming," Lee said of the trade that closed out the Winter Meetings on Monday in Anaheim. "Before the season was over, they were talking about cutting some payroll and building the team from power to defense and speed. I was expecting it." While general manager Ken Williams steadfastly would dispute Lee's "cutting payroll" assessment as even an underlying reason for the move, it's clear that either Lee's $8 million deal or Paul Konerko's $8.75 million salary would need to be dealt away for the White Sox to make the significant pitching upgrade the team still desires. Williams intends to use close to $6 million in savings to add a frontline starter, such as free agent Matt Clement, or keep it in the coffers to make improvements later in the 2005 season. Lee termed Williams' move as "part of the business." He also had just one basic question when first informed of the transaction Monday evening. "When they told me, I said, 'What team?'" Lee said. "They said Milwaukee, and I said OK. "They were great to me, and I have no complaints. There was always good communication and everything was going good from the time I was in Chicago." The 6-foot-2, 255-pound left fielder seems to be on the verge of stardom. Lee fell one RBI short of his second straight 30-home run, 100-runs scored, and 100-RBI season, but produced his highest career average at .305. Called upon to take on more of the offensive load with both Ordonez and Frank Thomas out for most of the season with injuries, Lee responded in a way that included a franchise-record 28-game hitting streak and 13 home runs in July. Yet, a commentary in the Wednesday edition of the Daily Southtown singled out Lee for going into a selfish mode far too often. He would sulk when falling into offensive funks and would adopt a "me-first" approach to get out of that slump at the expense of the team, according to stories from some of Lee's teammates brought up to the writer. It became a big enough distraction that Williams had to step in and talk to Lee, the article pointed out. Just as Lee chose to look at the positives of his time in Chicago during the conference call, he also opted against firing off an angry defense of his desire and passion for baseball. Lee espoused hard work as a baseball rule to live by, pointing to his defensive development over the years as an example. "I might not be a Gold Glove winner," said Lee, who came up through the White Sox system as a third baseman. "But I'm a pretty solid outfielder. "Every game, every day, I go out and play because I love the game," Lee added. "I always was trying to do the best I could to win games." One piece of good news for Lee is the chance to play more baseball next season in Wrigley Field, where he has a career .352 average with six home runs and 18 RBIs against the Cubs. Lee doesn't figure the adjustment to the National League pitchers will be overly difficult, especially if he continues to stay away from first-pitch hitting and gets himself into good 2-1 and 3-1 hitter's counts. The remaking of the White Sox began in earnest during the current offseason. Even with that emphasis on speed, defense and pitching, Lee didn't necessarily want to leave. But he understood as early as last August or September that his No. 45 jersey could feature different colors in the very near future. "It was going to be me or Konerko, and they chose me," Lee said. "Everyone is looking out for the best interest of the team. They decided to make a change, and that's what they did. Like I said, it's all part of the business." This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

How come nobody's said Papst Blue Ribbon? Give me a Guinness and I'm a happy guy!

...or maybe he just has a salival disfunction.

His performance in the World Series is enough to give him strong consideration. I'm not huge on him either, but if we can't land Clement or Perez, he's a good fallback.

Considering how much Kenny has been drooling about the bullpen since the acquisions of Hermanson and Viscaino, I don't see us trading away Marte. And I don't blame Kenny for liking the bullpen. At the moment, it looks really freaking solid.

Hey, maybe Paully can pass as a 3rd baseman. Remember that experiment?

Not if other teams have scouting reports.

I really don't see Kenny wanting to make this deal. I'm just speculating here, but a couple of weeks ago when Kenny said that RJ "won't pitch on the South Side", maybe it wasn't because RJ said he didn't want to play here but that this was the counter offer from the D-Backs and we said no f***ing way. Then again, I'm a bad speculator. So take it for what its worth.

For the record, I don't think that leaving early from an all-star game and leaving (your team) early from a regular season game are the same thing. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.

Don't mean to be picky here, but Frank did walk out early at an All-Star game and did leave spring training over a contract dispute. I'm a big Frank fan, but to be honest those two instances certainly didn't help his image.

Click on this link. Or is that too much work for your lazy ass? http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...an.jsp?c_id=cws

Everything is liberal with you.

Mariotti being against this trade makes me like it even more.

Hopefully it keeps Gload on the bench, where he's best suited for. Sorry, but I didn't see anything from him last year that convinced me that he was an everyday starter. I do like him coming off the bench though.

I'm guessing Ozzie will go with Buehrle, just out of loyalty. Then again, Garcia is essentially a Guillen family member, so who knows.

Of course he is. This deal is just as much about freeing up money for another FA as it is about getting Pods and Viscaino.

Man, does this board overvalue Carlos Lee. I've said this before and it bears repeating... You aren't going to get much for a power hitting left fielder (and 30 homers at the Cell is nothing special). I'd really like to know what some people on this board think we should get for Carlos? Tim Hudson? Randy Johnson? Babe Ruth? Get f***ing real people.