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QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:42 PM) My Charlotte source couldn't confirm. By confirming it would have meant the move was official though; We should note that.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:33 PM) Well, in my defense, no you didn't. My questions was to whether or not his arb. clock starting would hurt his value to clubs other than the White Sox. Does that sort of contractual thing carry over to the new club? That was my question. That would not effect his trade value. Him being called up would use up an option and obviously start his clock for whichever team took him, but teams aren't going to be worried with that since he could be starting for quite a few times right now. I'm not saying he'd be successful, I can't predict how a knuckler will translate at the major league level, but quite a few teams would be using him already. If he were out of options, than he'd have little trade value, but luckily he's a few years from being in that predicament.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:30 PM) Fair enough. Thanks. If you look a couple posts before, I posted why, so I didn't want to double type it being I'm all sick

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:29 PM) The hijack was hillarious though...props for that. Question for Jim, J: would his arbitration clock starting lower his value to other teams as well? I understand he could come up and pitch a serviceable debut, as many rookies do, but, if he came up and got bombed--which I would imagine he would--I can't quite buy things would be status quo? Now, you have a kunckler with lower value via a poor start and a started arb. clock. ...or am I off? Your off

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:25 PM) If Jose Contreras, the best pitcher in baseball dating back to the 2005 All-Star break, had health troubles that would merit his missing a start, it would be all over Chicago sports radio. At this point, my only vindication would be this guy's banishment. I have a very low tolerance for this trolling, playground bulls***. Well considering things have been scooped numerous times on here, well before chicago sports radio, I'd like to think there could be truth to this, especially since it goes in line what I heard this morning.

QUOTE(JimH @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:24 PM) A few comments ... 1. I doubt they would move guys up even one day, Ozzie wants to keep them as fresh and on schedule as possible, as noted by Jason and GHC. 2. Dye could be retro DL'd. 3. Based on Haeger's work in Charlotte thus far, he is the leading guy to fill in for a spot start. 4. McCarthy is just starting to settle into the bullpen, I don't think they want to mess with him. 5. Logan could easily be optioned out and called back up. 6. Addison't point is a good one but I don't think this mgmt. group is all that concerned about starting Haeger's arbitration clock. Ya, I don't think Kenny is too worried about starting Haegers arbitration clock. If we need a starter, its probably just as wise to call Haeger up. Plus I think Kenny knows if Haeger pitches a gem he's just given a knuckle baller pretty good trade value. If Charlie struggles, well than he can still kick ass down in the minors and people can chalk it up to him having debut jitters (meaning his trade value won't be hurt from a bad MLB performance).

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:23 PM) Ok, so then who goes on the DL/is demoted? If its 1 start missed, I'd think they'd send Logan down since he has tons of options. Than just recall him ASAP. This is me speculating as I have no inside info on this topic.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:20 PM) Hi, I'm Brandon McCarthy, the sixth/spot-starter coming out of the bullpen. I'm already with the big league club, have proven I could get major league talent out, and would not force another arbitration clock to start ticking. McCarthy won't make one start. He's our 6th starter if someone goes down for an extended time. Plus he pitched on the 6th and 7th and I don't thin kthe Sox plan on rushing him back to start as well as mess with his psychi as he works on better preparing himself for the pen.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:18 PM) Moving up a guy for one start? Or moving your pitchers up one day. This is a baseless gay rumor, and needs to die. Ozzie won't move the guys up one start. If this is just an injury where Jose misses a start, I think its something Ozzie would consider, but with last years post-season run, every indication from mgmt has been that they would do there best to get there pitchers as much rest as possible. In fact, you may see them toy with a 6 man rotation later in the year if we are in control, as a way to give guys extra rest.

Also you should note that Haeger did pitch very good against the Braves in that final pre-season game.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:16 PM) If there is truth to this rumor, it would seem the Sox are throwing Haeger to the wolves. Wouldnt Redding be a better spot starter,seeing as he actually has MLB experience? Depends, Haeger has kicked ass in the minors and a knuckler could be the exact type of guy that comes up and really baffles guys in his first start. Especially one who also has a pretty good fastball. Haeger could start as soon as today, however, we won't have any indication from the Charlotte end of things (in terms of a skipped start) since he isn't technically due to throw till the 10th due to 2 games being rained out this week. However, if he were to take the start on the 5th day (and those rainouts didn't happen) he would have pitched for the Knights tonight.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:13 PM) Thus there is validity to this rumor? I haven't gotten any sort of verification from the minor league end (in terms of Haeger), however, I have been hinted at if the Sox were going to give a guy just 1 start it wouldn't be Bmac simply because they don't want to disrupt him while he's working on figuring out the pen (unless it was for a few starts); plus if Jose were to miss a start, Ozzie is reluctant skipping his turn since he wants to keep our starters as rested as possible due to the post-season run. However, I think there IS a potential story here and in a day we this could be a FACT.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 8, 2006 -> 01:09 PM) Spasms? I don't know more than it being a back problem. As far as Dye goes, he's still tight and is going to miss a few more games, unless his swelling goes down relatively quickly. Sorry I don't know more on the issue, but there could very well be truth to this. I wish I knew another person to verify this with on the minor end of things, but my guess is the Sox are keeping things tightly sealed right now. Edit: I want everyone to know I have no idea whether Contrera's treatment was for a back problem that has been long going or if it is something new that came up. That I could not tell you.

Well we may have scooped everyone. We reported on our show that Contreras was suffering from back problems.

Guys, you may want to listen to our radio show. Mario and I's sources said that Contreras was being treated for his back.

Here are some posts that were made on Flight 93 at Soxtalk.net Flight 93 Anybody see it??? I think it should be required viewing for all. I think we owe it to those passengers. The movie didn't need any movie tricks or background stories. The final scene is about the most powerful cinematic scene I have ever witnessed and there was no shortage of emotion in that theatre. One of the main questions people have been asking about this movie... "is it too soon?" I don't think so. This story needs to be told and in this day and age the best platform we have are movies. Perhaps David Beamer, the father of Todd Beamer, answered the question best, he said "Is it too soon to remember? It's too soon to forget." God Bless the passengers of Flight 93. IP: [ 38.98.131.98 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Queen Prawn Posted: May 3 2006, 03:15 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Member ** Group: Members Posts: 17 Member No.: 28 Joined: 3-May 06 I plan on renting it when it comes out on DVD, but currently have no plans to see it in the theatre. IP: [ 209.176.67.51 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top THEWOOD Posted: May 3 2006, 03:17 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Advanced Member *** Group: Members Posts: 33 Member No.: 24 Joined: 3-May 06 Yeah my girlfriend wont go see it in a theatre, she said we have to wait till it comes out on DVD. I had a buddy go see it last night and he said it was pretty good. IP: [ 204.16.84.50 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Controlled Chaos Posted: May 3 2006, 03:23 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Member ** Group: Members Posts: 11 Member No.: 29 Joined: 3-May 06 I would advise to see it in a theatre. My friend downloads movies all the time and I told him DO NOT download this movie. I think it has a much bigger impact at the show. I can't really explain it, but you'll know it when you watch it. It's one of the few films worth the price of admission. IP: [ 38.98.131.98 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Heads22 Posted: May 3 2006, 03:25 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Advanced Member *** Group: Admin Posts: 68 Member No.: 3 Joined: 3-May 06 I'll probably wait for it on DVD, but may go out and see it in the theater. IP: [ ---------- ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top aboz56 Posted: May 3 2006, 03:54 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Member ** Group: Admin Posts: 27 Member No.: 42 Joined: 3-May 06 I may actually go out and see this. IP: [ ---------- ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Guest Posted: May 3 2006, 04:00 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Unregistered I recommend it. Made the right way and doesn't exploit anything. IP: [ 71.201.4.169 ] Top Brian Posted: May 3 2006, 04:32 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Newbie * Group: Members Posts: 5 Member No.: 44 Joined: 3-May 06 I liked it as well. First hour is very suspensful and left me with a sick feeling in my stomach. IP: [ 71.201.4.169 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Controlled Chaos Posted: May 3 2006, 05:47 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Member ** Group: Members Posts: 11 Member No.: 29 Joined: 3-May 06 FYI Director Greengrass' most inspired casting choice was to use air traffic controllers to play... themselves, just as they were, on the job, almost five years ago. The most notable of these is Ben Sliney, who in real life was manager of the Federal Aviation Administration's National Operations Center in Herndon, Virginia, on Black Tuesday. Sliney is authoritative and crisp -- of course he is, after 40 years on the job. IP: [ 38.98.131.98 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Controlled Chaos Posted: May 3 2006, 05:55 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Member ** Group: Members Posts: 11 Member No.: 29 Joined: 3-May 06 United 93 The filmmakers got it right. BY DAVID BEAMER Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT The calendar says it's April 25, 2006. At noon, my wife, Peggy, and I are walking around Battery Park--near the Tribeca area--in New York. It is our first time. The flowers are blooming; kids are fishing; people boarding the ferry to Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty. Kids are laughing and noisy. The sun is shining. The vendors are hawking T-shirts, pretzels and some "designer" wares. And just up the street there is a hole in the skyline and in the ground. In the park, there is a memorial with walls standing tall. Walls filled with so many names of those who gave their all in the Atlantic in World War II. How fitting that the names are here to honor those who gave their lives to enable this fun, this laughter--on this sunny day. The sights and sounds of freedom continue. Fast forward--it is 10:30 p.m., April 25. We have just seen a movie premiere at the fifth annual Tribeca Film Festival. A film festival that has done so much to energize and revitalize the city, its people and especially the area that has that hole in the skyline and in the ground. This year the movie that had its worldwide premiere at the festival is titled "United 93." It is about the day when the hole in the skyline of New York was made--the day when a hole was made in the side of the Pentagon near Washington, D.C.--the day when a hole was made in a quiet mountain meadow in Pennsylvania. The day that our nation was attacked; the day when the war came home--Sept. 11, 2001. The day our son Todd boarded United 93. Paul Greengrass and Universal set out to tell the story of United Flight 93 on that terrible day in our nation's history. They set about the task of telling this story with a genuine intent to get it right--the actions of those on board and honor their memory. Their extensive research included reaching out to all the families who had lost loved ones on United Flight 93 as the first casualties of this war. And Paul and his team got it right. There are those who question the timing of this project and the painful memories it evokes. Clearly, the film portrays the reality of the attack on our homeland and its terrible consequences. Often we attend movies to escape reality and fantasize a bit. In this case and at this time, it is appropriate to get a dose of reality about this war and the real enemy we face. It is not too soon for this story to be told, seen and heard. But it is too soon for us to become complacent. It is too soon for us to think of this war in only national terms. We need to be mindful that this enemy, who made those holes in our landscape and caused the deaths of some 3,000 of our fellow free people, has a vision to personally kill or convert each and every one of us. This film reminds us that this war is personal. This enemy is on a fanatical mission to take away our lives and liberty--the liberty that has been secured for us by those whose names are on those walls in Battery Park and so many other walls and stones throughout this nation. This enemy seeks to take away the free will that our Creator has endowed in us. Patrick Henry got it right some 231 years ago. Living without liberty is not living at all. The passengers and crew of United 93 had the blessed opportunity to understand the nature of the attack and to launch a counterattack against the enemy. This was our first successful counterattack in our homeland in this new global war--World War III. This film further reminds us of the nature of the enemy we face. An enemy who will stop at nothing to achieve world domination and force a life devoid of freedom upon all. Their methods are inhumane and their targets are the innocent and unsuspecting. We call this conflict the "War on Terror." This film is a wake-up call. And although we abhor terrorism as a tactic, we are at war with a real enemy and it is personal. There are those who would hope to escape the pain of war. Can't we just live and let live and pretend every thing is OK? Let's discuss, negotiate, reason together. The film accurately shows an enemy who will stop at nothing in a quest for control. This enemy does not seek our resources, our land or our materials, but rather to alter our very way of life. I encourage my fellow Americans and free people everywhere to see "United 93." Be reminded of our very real enemy. Be inspired by a true story of heroic actions taken by ordinary people with victorious consequences. Be thankful for each precious day of life with a loved one and make the most of it. Resolve to take the right action in the situations of life, whatever they may be. Resolve to give thanks and support to those men, women, leaders and commanders who to this day (1,687 days since Sept. 11, 2001) continue the counterattacks on our enemy and in so doing keep us safe and our freedoms intact. May the taste of freedom for people of the Middle East hasten victory. The enemy we face does not have the word "surrender" in their dictionary. We must not have the word "retreat" in ours. We surely want our troops home as soon as possible. That said, they cannot come home in retreat. They must come home victoriously. Pray for them. Mr. Beamer is the father of Todd Beamer, a passenger on United Airlines Flight 93. IP: [ 38.98.131.98 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top steve9347 Posted: May 3 2006, 06:32 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Member ** Group: Members Posts: 10 Member No.: 33 Joined: 3-May 06 QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ May 3 2006, 08:55 AM) Anybody see it??? I think it should be required viewing for all. I think we owe it to those passengers. we OWE it to those passengers?? this does nothing for them, it just makes big bucks for the movie studios. IP: [ 67.173.39.192 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top retro1983hat Posted: May 3 2006, 06:41 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Newbie * Group: Members Posts: 3 Member No.: 60 Joined: 3-May 06 I saw it Saturday. The theater was silent after the movie. It was very powerful. It wasn't exactly entertaining, per se, but more of a documentary. I thought it was well done. IP: [ 12.100.7.140 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Yoda Posted: May 3 2006, 11:52 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Newbie * Group: Members Posts: 5 Member No.: 89 Joined: 3-May 06 I've read/heard mixed reviews about this movie. I'll be able to judge by myself this weekend. IP: [ 63.235.141.123 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top Controlled Chaos Posted: May 4 2006, 11:49 AM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Member ** Group: Members Posts: 11 Member No.: 29 Joined: 3-May 06 QUOTE (steve9347 @ May 3 2006, 01:32 PM) we OWE it to those passengers?? this does nothing for them, it just makes big bucks for the movie studios. We owe it to them to see the story. To see what they did...how they fought back. They saved hundreds possibly thousands of lives on the ground. Yes the movie studios will make money...get over it....all movie studios make money. IP: [ 38.98.131.98 ] Mini ProfilePMEmail Poster Top FranSnarkington Posted: May 4 2006, 12:26 PM Report PostDelete PostEdit PostQuote Post Advanced Member *** Group: Members Posts: 36 Member No.: 68 Joined: 3-May 06 QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ May 4 2006, 05:49 AM) We owe it to them to see the story. To see what they did...how they fought back. They saved hundreds possibly thousands of lives on the ground. Yes the movie studios will make money...get over it....all movie studios make money. All studios do make money. And to be fair, they are giving 10% of the box to the Flight 93 monument fund. But it is presumptuous to think that everybody needs to see a film recreation of the event - or any of the 9/11 events - to remember them or keep them relevant.

By the way, I apologize in advance for the time or two I cough into the mic. I had no voice as of yesterday, so I was surprised I could even do the show today.

Lefty. Although I play golf right handed and am a better hitter with my right hand. And my theory is lefties eat with the fork in there left hand, but unlike righties, we use our right hand with our knife and don't set it down. Righties tend to use the knife and switch hands when they do things, but than set it down.

In this weeks show Jason and Mario go in depth on the effects of the Jeff Nelson signing. Will Nelson get called up, and if he does, who will go down? Scott Podsednik has continued to hit, while Anderson and Uribe have continued to slump; Should they be benched? Despite a winning record, should the Sox be concerned with their lack of small ball, or is small ball a bad move with this lineups pop. Downloadable Version Streaming Version of the Show Directions on How to Subscribe to Our Podcast Last Weeks Show: Due to the site upgrade, we never got up a version of last weeks show, but we did record it, so if anyone is interested in listening to it: Streaming Version of Last Weeks Show

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 7, 2006 -> 06:21 PM) I think Soxtalk is home to the highest % of lefties in the world.

QUOTE(SnB @ May 7, 2006 -> 06:07 PM) 2 in 1 i don't remember this being taken, that was a fun night, Ahhhhh

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ May 7, 2006 -> 03:39 PM) Are you a lefty Chisoxfn? Of course...its the only way to be.

One of me wearing girly sunglasses (my ex girlfriends glasses) and the other with me EATING the worlds best burrito. Plus I know SNB wants to see the Grizzly Adams beard.

Tex, I don't know what to say, but good god 40 year old virgins. I thought that was only a movie...or...AC Green.

QUOTE(Felix @ May 6, 2006 -> 09:40 AM) Any timeline on when the real skin will be back? After we make the upgrade our skins will be changing and we'll be creating a custom one. So it will probably be about 7 days, give or take 3 days.