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Happy Bday Greasy. Hopefully IU can hire a good coach as your present

Well Ford owns 48% of Mazda or something along those lines and I think most of the Japanese manufactures have plants in the US. I know the Nissan Titan is built in the US....I think in Louisiana. And all Volkwagens but the Passat come from Mexico. I'm assuming the new W12 doesn't either and I'm not sure about the minivan. But the Jetta and Golf are from Mexico.

Well Atlanta would offer him arb and than thats the max raise he would get if he accepted. He's not going to accept.

I think that means Vazquez makes like 5 million this year, which would be well worth it. I'd get him and Gordon and then the Sox could have the cash to pickup a 5th starter. Cause a deal of Vazquez (at 5 mill this year) plus Gordon (3.75) would actually save the Sox a little money this year. Dbacks save over the long haul. So the Sox save 2 mill when if their payroll goes up to 75 mill they can spend somewhere around 12-14 mill. With the 2 mill in savings from this years deal that gives the Sox 14-16 mill to spend after adding Gordon and Vazquez. This means the Sox can still add Wright or someone else to the rotation (Perez could be really nice too), pick up a bat to replace Konerko or pick up a RF and stick with Gload. Alright, warning, pipedream: Sox deal Konerko, Diaz, and Garland for Vazquez and Gordon. Sox sign Odalis Perez to a 3 yr 15 mill deal with incentives that could bump it higher Sox trade Neal Cotts for Kyle Farnsworth and a prospect Sox deal Carlos Lee for Ryan Klesko and Ramon Hernandez Sox sign Jay Gibbons when he's non tendered. New Lineup Willie Harris - 2nd Juan Uribe - ss Frank Thomas - DH Ryan Klesko - LF Aaron Rowand - CF Jay Gibbons - RF Ramon Hernandez - C Ross Gload - 1b Joe Crede - 3rd Thats not the most beautiful offense in the world, but its got a good mix of righties and lefties and should be good defensively. Thats a great defensive infield and Rowand and Gibbons are both good outfielder and Klesko is a good left fielder. You also have Everett on the bench. The one weakness is the top of the lineup. But starting rotation Vazquez Buehrle Garcia Odalis Perez Jose Contreras Bullpen Takatsu Gordon Marte Farnsworth Politte Munoz The pitching staff is very very complete, imo. Obviously all that crap wouldn't have to be done, just throwing it out their.

Well if it were an offical 3 team deal, yes, if not, then no. However the Dbacks could then take the cash and swing it to the Sox in the deal. Who knows, I still have to think if the Sox made that offer, that RJ will be a White Sox.

Something like that. But I think between Garland and Konerko, given Vazquez current year salary the payrolls would be basically a wash. The Sox would take on more cash in the long run. However, if the Yanks include cash with the package, it could make Vazquez a little more affordable.

Ya, I have no idea how the hell he thought fed ex was white collar or at least the majority. Its a good blue collar job. I'd call him a moron, but he's made more money then I have

Ya...that would also make sense if the Dbacks turned down the deal soley because RJ wasn't up for it. Do you think the Dbacks would do a Konerko and Garland for those two. The Sox just don't deal Brian Anderson? Although I don't know how it would work, but your right, the two would look nice on the SouthSide. Also, ESPN News is now saying a package that could include Javier Vazquez. Seems to me like Gammons is jumping out a little early acting as if its a done deal, when its probably just an initial offer or talks.

Jon Gruden has said he isn't interested in the Notre Dame job. They also said he is supposedly negotiating a new deal that would keep him in TB for a while.

Funnest car I ever drove was an audi. If it came to SUV/Trucks I'd probably go American, although the new Nissan Titan is pretty badass. When it comes to cars if money was no object i love Audi's, even if they have some problems and I'm a huge fan of the new Acura TL's.

My bad, I just went back and edited my first post. Here's my thinking, could the Sox get involved and pick up Gordon? Cause he'd look great back on the South Side.

Ya, they didn't say anything about cash going though. I'd assume some would be going, but Vazquez has a horrible contract and its for a few years. If they got Konerko and Garland they would just have those contracts for one year and then the option to do what they wanted. They won't have that option with Vazquez.

I guess if I could make a White Sox comparison, it would be like dealing Freddy Garcia, Cliff Politte, and Brian Anderson for Randy Johnson. Garcia is better then Vazquez (more affordable contract, better numbers in the AL), Gordon is better then Politte (this was just to even out the difference between Gordon/Vazquez) and Anderson is more advanced then Duncan but Duncan is pretty damn hyped for an A ball guy (probably over-hyped).

My bad, that was just me typing like a retard. He'll be a Yank, supposedly.

For those curious Eric Duncan was the Yanks 1st round pick back in 2003. He's a 3rd baseman who played for the Tampa Yanks and Battlecreek Yanks last year. Hit .254, and .260 with a combined 16 HR's. He was taken out of high school. Duncan is thought of as one of the best 3rd base prospects in baseball and is supposed to have some serious power potential. Of course based on his numbers you can see he still has a long way to go.

If the nationals give him anything near 8 mill a year, just consider it another stupid/overpaying move by Bowden. Especially since they are supposedly playing in a serious hitters park.

I still think this is Gammons hyping things before it happened. But I will re-iterate what I said earlier today that this is a horrible deal from the Dbacks perspective. Unless they are getting a ton of cash. Of cousre if they then move Vazquez for prospects and Gordon for prospects then it wouldn't be too bad. I stick to my thinking the Dbacks obviously never got that offer from the Sox. That or their GM is just a huge idiot and considering the deal he's thinking about accepting, its quite the possibility. If I were a Dback fan I'd be upset. Although if they can get a couple stud prospects out of Vazquez and Gordon then it would be a good move.

Ya, they said he really wants to go their.

Randy Johnson for Javier Vazquez, Tom Gordon, and Eric Duncan. However instead of Duncan it could be a prospect from another team if a 3rd team is involved (sounds to me like the basis is their and they are just figuring out who the prospects are). Gammons is reporting this from a source in the Dbacks organization. Its believed the deal will be completed sometime next week. ESPN News also said that Russ Ortiz is thinking very hard about signing with the Nationals.

No that was the eephus pitch or whatever its called. Great article

Good, I was hoping Bush would do something along these lines.

Agree with what the two of you said. The Sox and Bulls do an outstanding job in the community and you have to give credit to JR and the rest of the owners and the organization.

I think it would open up the potential to deal Crede elsewhere, possibly for relief pitching. As far as Uribe, as of now he's the starting SS unless the Sox add someone else and I'd assume they could maybe snag a leadoff hitter to be their 2nd baseman after all this went down. Who knows, just figured I'd throw it out their, especially since I'm probably one of the bigger Klesko fans in baseball (in the sense that I've long included him in different trade suggestions involving the Sox). I also agree with ya on Burr being in the 2 hole. The thing is Klesko is well liked in San Diego and Burroughs was the golden boy they always talked about as a prospect (like Joey B was for the Sox).

My dad and I were talking about this in the morning and realistically it makes sense. I've long thought Wall Street is a gamble and thast basically what Cuban is implying here. When you think about it, at least you pretty much know the facts in sports while in the stock world everything isn't out for you to see in the open. You have no idea whats really going on in a business and whether whats being reported is true or false. A good professional gambler, can take advantage of things and if he won 52% of the time the investors would be making a solid return, especially if htye picked up on some potential big gainers. Still, I see something preventing this whole thing from happening. I'd consider investing in it, although if I recall Hedge Funds usually require a decent amount of cash to get in (not positive on that though).

Just to beat out the Cheat Here's an exert from my article on Bryant Nelson back on July 13 Nelson feels the Japanese league has some players capable of making the jump to the majors. When asked about White Sox reliever Shingo Takatsu, he said he never faced him during his time there, but heard stories about Takatsu, saying he was “one of the most respected players” in Japan. Daisuke Matsuzaka of the Seibu Tigers was the toughest pitcher Nelson ever faced and he feels he could be a very good major league player. Matsuzaka struck out Nelson six times in eight at bats, which is a rare feat coming against a player that doesn’t strike out much. http://www.futuresox.com/modules.php?op=mo...article&sid=608 Is their still any potential of him becoming a FA this year? I saw where they could do a similar thing like with Ichiro letting teams bid just on the right to have exclusive rights to him. Obviously this isn't the type of move the Sox do often, but this guy is legit.