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I definately would too, but its also not out of the realm that he will fall somewhere in between last years season and the one before. I think he's good, but I don't really know how much better he can get. Thome was way over-paid and he only got that cause the Phils were desperate to sign someone after they were losing out on Glavine.

To me KW can really fill in a free agent for Konerko if needed. Their are many productive first baseman out their.

I agree with that with the exception of one thing, PK isn't cheap. He just signed a new contract that will pay him very well. 3 yrs 23 mill.

Look at Konerko's stats. Yes they are good, and yes he's a leader, but you can find that out of many first baseman out their. PK is my favorite player, but I do not think he's irreplaceable.

Thats a little harsh, imo. I will be pissed if they make a bad deal, but I refuse to ever Boycott the Sox. Plus, it all depends on who we get in return. I think PK makes a lot of money, so if they were to deal and get Ortiz and find a similar replacement, I'd be happy.

Dessens is good. His numbers go up drastically if he went to a team with a good offense. He reminds me a ton of Jon Lieber.

Deprived young fan. Don't worry hawk, I only have seen hawk and whimpy or Hawk and Dj in the box. Everything else was before my time. I do think DJ and Hawk are handcuffed with what they can say.

By: Mario Scalise http://www.soxnet.net/snreport/381-12.16.html This article, will be updated, if news changes.

Well, I'll admit I had no clue who it was and even after someone figured it out, I still have no clue.

Let me also say that I don't like Mcgriff much, but the move would make sense if we moved Konerko. Right now, who knows, its kind of a wait and see.

That team wouldn't compete offensively and would still have a crappy pitching staff.

What deal with Toronto?

That would be interesting on the Reds point of view and would blow most deals out of the water. They would be nuts, cause they still would lack drastically in the pitching department.

Thanks for the reminder Alex. Got to make them, but mind is on the Sox right now, lol

I think we all know him and Frank are lousy first baseman, but you could have them both platoon. Still, I'd most like to see Jeff Kent.

Here's some things that would stop it. Payroll.... Also, in all honesty, the Giants deal only makes sense if they dump payroll or it does to a point, meaning we'd be picking up Snow at 7 mill. Of course the Sox don't need to pick up Ritchie at 3 mill, making it an addition of 4 mill to my original post. This means if the Sox could find a way to deal Snow (pick up 3 mill of his salary) or deal Manos they would be able to make the move by adding only 2-3 mill in payroll to what the current payroll is. Another possibility of course is if the Expos would do that so called deal. It would be a real good deal for them, I think, as they'd get Garland, and at least one more real good pitching prospect as well as Harris and a very good offensive outfielder in Carlos Lee.

He is a quality veteran and overall put up decent numbers. Would he really be that bad in the 5 hole, providing left handed power?

They were going to for JD Drew but the Cards decided not to give up on J.D. Konerko isn't quite Drew, but he's more proven and still fills a need for them at first.

Here's what i'd love to see happen. Yes, I know it ain't going to happen. Sox deal Konerko for Ortiz and Ainsworth. Sox sign Jeff Kent to a 3yr 15 mill contract to play 1st Sox deal Carlos Lee, Jon Garland, Willie Harris, Josh Paul and Corwin Malone or Brian West and Matt Ginter for Jose Vidro, Michael Barret and Bartolo Colon Lineup Jimenez - ss Vidro - 2nd Kent - 1st Maggs - rf Thomas - DH Crede - 3rd Liefer/Borchard - lf Rowand - cf Olivo/Barret - c Rotation Colon Buerhle Ortiz Wright Ainsworth/Rauch Still have good prospects in the minors as the Sox wouldn't of given up any top prospects other then Harris(Replaced by Vidro) and then Garland(Replaced by Ainsworth) and the pitcher we'd give to the Expos. Just throwing it out their. The Sox would then have to deal Manos, but salary wise, they'd be dealing 11 mill or so when they moved Caballo and Konerko and picking up not too much more.

I did consider the fact that the Sox could bring in Mcgriff.

Ya, but wouldn't it be great for the Sox to steal their thunder and pull both? I know this, Kent is a better player then Konerko. Attitude wise, Konerko wins, but just production, you got to go with Kent, and if moving Konerko gets you a pitcher of Ortiz's caliber and then Ainsworth, then I'd pull that deal in a heart-beat. Of course we won't get Kent, but just saying if the Sox really wanted to do something, they'd do it.

Its been reported on the TV, as well as on the radio or at least I heard it on the radio. They were talking about the Giants moving Ortiz to the Sox and said some sources are saying its for prospects, others saying its for Konerko or Lee. I think the sides are very close, and are just figuring out which way each team wants to go.

Well, Kent was looking to sign cheaply. Its too bad the Sox wouldn't pull this deal, then go out and sign Jeff Kent to play first to a 3 yr 15 mill contract. He seems to be willing to take a lot less now, and he'd be a steal at that rate.

Your right then, it was the Osuna deal.

I tend to agree with you. I am big on pitching. I like offense too, but right now, I just try to sit back and take things for what they are worth.