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Anderson is out their. I like him more then Daal too. I wouldn't mind just picking up 2 starters from the bottom end of the pile and just seeing what happens. You can always deal them later in the year if needed. Of course, I'll still hold out we can get a good guy via trade. Robert Person is still out their too (LDF pointed this out)

I forgot about Person, he'd be a good pickup too.

Roman...relax a bit. The deal the Braves had was a top young starter who had a 3.60 era or so last season and was 12-6. That wasn't in a full season either. Moss is a better pitcher then Ortiz, imo or will be and they also got a top prospect from the Braves. The only similar deal we could of offered was PK and a prospect straight up for Ortiz or Wright or Garland and something like Brian West. We'd of been nuts to do either of those, imo. KW never turned down that Liefer deal.

They are still looking at things. I think they will end up getting someone. The thing is, now all that is left is a real blockbuster like Colon or Vazquez or settling on a free agent or dealing for a lesser commodity like Ponson(I happen to like this guy a lot)

The Braves had a much better offer on the table, imo. Those reports aren't true as of yet, that KW turned down that offer. The Braves and Sox were negotiating with the Giants at the same time, the Braves had a much much better deal on the table.

Colon and Vazquez aren't gone yet.

I definately think Ritchie is a better pitcher then last year, but if money is such an issue with the Sox, I would rather have 2 starters then just Ritchie. Of course, maybe I'm wrong and thats not how it will end up.

Ted Turner no longer owns the Braves, AOL does and they have constantly said they will cut payroll. They want it to stay around 80 million, no higher.

Basically if the Sox bring Ritchie back it will cost them 3 million. Am I the only one that thinks the Sox would be better off signing Daal and Valdes and letting Ritchie go at 3 million? They'd get a lefty and righty, both that are decent and wouldn't cost much at all.

I think their is truth that the Sox are the mystery team.

Plus, I think at the money Clemens would want the Sox would have many more affordable options that could put up similar numbers.

Quickly, I'm gonna jot some names down as options still out their... -Omar Daal (FA) -Ismael Valdes (FA) -Roger Clemens (FA) -James Baldwin (FA) -Brad Penny (FLA) -Ryan Dempster (CIN) -Braves Pitcher (ATL) -Sidney Ponson (BALT) -Andy Ashby (LA) -Brian Lawrence (SD) -Livan Hernandez (SF)

Lol, thats a good one :metal

Well, according to the USA Today, the Sox are one of the three teams with the shot at getting Colon. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-dealing_x.htm Its a decent read. The weird thing is, for the past week, we've heard a slim shot at it, but no major affiliate will report it.

Well, now that I think about it, wouldn't a three deam deal of made more sense? Giants get Moss and Braves Prospect, Braves get Konerko, Sox get Ortiz and Ainsworth. I do think KW will be talking to the Braves. ESPN says Maddux will likely get a ton of money in Arbitration and I can't doubt that.

26 Year Old Sidney Ponson is also out their. Carlos Lee for Ponson would still work, imo. Although, I don't want to give up Carlos Lee.

Is Ismael Valdes all that bad of an option? He seems to be getting a lot less pub then Omar Daal, but if you compare numbers, Valdes may of had the better season. First off Ismael pitched in the American League, and did so in the toughest division in baseball, the American League West. He went 8-12 with a 4.18 era and through 196 innings, making 31 starts, with one complete game. Opponents hit just .257 against him and in his career, they hit .255 against him. Could he of figured things back out? How about signing this guy for like a million bucks. I was always a huge fan of his back in his days with the Dodgers and he's only 29 years old. He doesn't turn 30 until August 21st. Omar Daal 11-9 with a 3.90 era. He made 23 starts and pitched 161.1 innings. Opponents hit just .39 off of him. Career wise they have hit .264 against him. He turns 31 on March 1st and is looking for a long term deal with 3 million a year. Seems to me like the safer bet would be to get Valdes as you wouldn't be tying things up long term.

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Or a 3rd baseman or outfielder. It all depends on where they decide to stick Chipper.

IT makes sense for both sides involved. The question is who will they be willing to move. Of course, I think they do this only if they get Maddux back, which all signs point to yes. The Braves still need first base help. I actually think Carlos Lee would make more sense for them though, as they aren't looking to pick up salary. Heck, they could even be interested in someone like Liefer. We'll have to wait a week or so and see if anything comes up.

Terms aren't disclosed, but he's now off the list. Its quickly looking like the Sox only option will be plan b or a blockbuster deal. Also, it looks as if the Braves are going to be getting Greg Maddux back as Scott Boras is hinting they will accept arbitration, which will keep him a Brave for at least one more season.

Ya, they gave up a second good prospect. Still, Honel is our premier prospect, they didn't give up their premier prospect and a quality major league pitcher. Either way I do agree that the Braves did give up more then the so called Sox offer.

Thats a pretty stinking good rotation. It got them a lot younger and they saved a ton of money. Their gm may know what he's doing after all. I like the idea of Clemens. Right now it appears that if the Yanks get Colon, his options are the Red Sox, and the Texas teams. None of the Texas teams have the money to bring him in, and the Red Sox so far haven't been interested, leaving the Sox out their, if that is true.

I think the Twins should pick him up as their ace.

Do they just stick with plan B or consider going after someone like Andy Ashby or sign a Paul Byrd. Of course Colon and Vazquez are still out their and the Reds are supposedly willing to deal Dempster and the Marlins could be willing to deal Penny. Also, Sidney Ponson is still out their as well. Personally, I'd still like to see that rumored 8 player deal or at least see the Sox try to get Colon without giving up Garland.