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Let me just state on the record that I feel this deal only makes sense for the Giants if they don't get Konerko. They seem to be dumping salary so getting PK, who has just signed a long term deal, would be funny. Lee would make some sense if they want him to move to 1st, but I Think strictly prospects makes the most sense from the Giants point of view.

I think if we move PK, we are doing one thing right and thats trading a guy while his value is at a peak. The question is are we dealing Konerko or Lee. If we are move either of them and still get Ainsworth and Ortiz, then I will be extremely excited.

Valentine throws a fastball, but mainly uses a slider. Almonte has a very very good circle change and is compared by many to Keith Foulke.

Snow makes quite a bit of money. Liefer makes the minimum. Ortiz makes a couple mill, but once he passes through waivers, you can pick him up much cheaper or so I think thats how it works.

Rogowski was in a ball, but the Sox feel he is more of a guy to hit for a very high average, but they also see him developing decent power, somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-30 hr's. I'm interested to know whats going on. So far I haven't gotten enough information to write anything up, as their are just so many names being thrown out their by the media that you just can't know whats true.

Interesting. I don't like the idea of giving up PK and minor leaguers, but I like the idea of getting Ainsworth and Ortiz.

It was all about Hawk and Whimpy.

Munoz also has a fastball with some good life to it. Lefties with a nasty curve and can spot a fastball with movement will be very sucessfull as relievers.

I'll pay attention to him, but I think he'll turn into a good middle reliever at best. Thats just me though.

I'll let ya know during spring training, then we'll compare your answers when you see them later in the year. I'm assuming that Ring and Munoz will be invited.

I'd rather give up West, but you got to give something to get something. I do agree on your take of Malone though. Coming off an injury, I wouldn't want to give up on him. The kid has a ton of potential. I'd like a West, Ginter, and Sanders package instead of giving them Malone and someone else.

Stuff wise, I think Munoz and Ring are much much better then any of our other left handed relievers.

Ken Williams likes Majewski, so if he can get him back he will. Remember, Majewski was dealt to the Orioles in the Charles Johnson deal, then made his way to the Dodgers and then back to the Sox in the James Baldwin deal. He was thought of as a good pitching prospect too. I think thats how it all worked out.

I'd consider that as well. San Fran has some damn good prospects, we already have one of them in Diaz, I'd definately take the other two.

Man, what a great trade by the Brewers. Wes Helms should do good with playing time.

I'd be willing to pick up Ortiz for cheap, if the Sox do get rid of Carlos Lee.

Michelle, we have a ton of arms down their. Trust me on that. We have a good list of starters that have starting potential as well as a list of starters and relievers that will turn into relievers. With Sanders we have Munoz and Ring rated ahead of him and you could put someone like Josh Stewart in the same class as Sanders.

It will likely be Malone, but I've also heard some mention of West. I know KW seems more intent on giving up West then Malone.

Ainsworth is a stud, major league ready prospect. Ortiz is a proven #2 pitcher.

I'm with Cerb. This guy could turn into a prospect or he could turn into a bum. Right now he's a guy with potential, whose yet to prove a thing.

Its looking like someone like Malone and West would be involved as well as another prospect.

I did say that Michelle, lol. I think pretty highly of Gary, as you can tell. For the past year and a half I've spoken well of this pitcher. I like Valentine too, don't get me wrong. We'll see what happens though, I think both will become decent pitchers, neither will be stars though.

Ya, Rogowski is a good first base prospect, but he was banged up last season and is still likely two years away. I could live with losing Konerko, if we got Ainsworth in return as well. Otherwise, I'll stick to something like Brian West and Sanders.

Damn, I'm patiently awaiting the news.

He's a very good reliever in my opinion. Personally I think of him higher then Joe Valentine, etc. Still, you can't do anything about that.