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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 08:58 AM) If they have any competence at all they should have realized last summer how well set up they were for Free Agency this year. That was the end result of the Butler trade - they have room to add a max deal in a year when very few teams have room to add a max deal. To be honest, I think they realize they had free agency capacity but I get a feel they thought they would be getting a top 3 pick this year and probably a top 5 pick the following year and because of that I think they were going to be very measured in free agency this year (because the reality is, they thought the team would largely suck (yes it would add a top talent in this years draft and get another year of Dunn / Lavine) but I don’t think any of them thought Dunn & Lauri would be this good (or at a minimum, this good this fast). If you look at history, good free agents don’t sign with teams with bad records (or worse records then the team they are coming from). The only exception to that in recent history is Lebron returning to Cleveland. However, based upon the current trajectory, I’d argue this Bulls team could actually be a relatively attractive destination for a free agent, albeit part of that will be seeing continued growth of Lauri / Dunn as well as seeing how Lavine holds up.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 01:28 AM) Doesn't matter. These idiots keep winning too many games. We'll miss out on Bagley, Ayton, Bamba and Young. But hey, build that winning culture. Because, um, yeah, there is no reason for that right now. This has 2003 written all over it. Sorry ass team but won too many games to have a chance at Lebron, Wade, Melo or Bosh. This f***in' franchise can't do a god damn thing right since Michael left. So would it be better that Lauri & Dunn just sucked? Cause a lot of the winning has been because of those two guys getting good very fast. Both could profile out as all-star type players and Lavine has a similar shot. Could be none of them reach that point, but having 3 guys under 24 who profile out in that nature is not a bad thing. I have to think they move Lopez and Niko soon, albeit I still argue with this team getting good sooner then expected (I want a good pick in this years draft but will leave with a slightly lesser pick with it driven by strong growth in our youth) and with that the front office needs to evaluate how it intends to build out the team long-term (since that strategy has likely shifted by how quick the team bounced back up). I guess I’m the only one not totally shocked by this since I made comments to the fact that if this team was healthy all season it would be a playoff team in the east. Lavine & Niko’s injuries helped create the deep hole that will enable this team to be a lottery team and ultimately get a top 8 pick, but top 3-4 probably is going to have a lot of luck involved. My question is, if we move Niko, do we think we stop winning at this pace or does Lavine counter the loss of Niko (albeit I’d expect some rust / tranisition) and thus even moving Niko isn’t enough. Personally I think the Bulls should be calculated in who they move to facilitate the better draft pick (without negatively impacting the overall culture or implying to the team...we don’t want you to win, etc). Rolo seems like a guy who should be moved (but damn if he isn’t a great guy in the Locke room, etc). You need to be careful that you don’t turn into the cancer that is the Lakers (for example) or even the Sixers (might be looking good now but in no way would I call how long they sucked a good path / strategy).

If Bulls are able to land a Doncic, I’m okay with how the lottery played out. Obviously I’d like one of the top 3 guys but I don’t see it happening (without pure lottery lock) and Doncic is still a really good talent. I think the Bulls front office ultimately is coming to the realization the rebuild might be ahead as scheduled (and might not have hit the full low’s it probably expected (I won’t comment on whether that is good or bad but it is likely the reality) which means that free agency probably becomes a key part of the story going forward (as soon as this off-season) where previously it was probably another off-season away.

Turning the table, the Bears are going to be interesting. I don’t know that they will be amazing or what, but they are going to be progressive or so it seems (based upon how they have built out this staff). Could turn into a giant dumpster fire but this is like no Bears coaching staff we’ve seen (except maybe Trestmans, haha). Not saying it’s the same as Trestman’s as Fangio on the D makes things a lot better but Trestman would have been considered somewhat of a “progressive” coach (not as young though). Excited to see what happens.

I had when players like that fail in a massive moment. For example, back in the national championship game, I didn’t want Bama to win but after their kicker had that miss (where he choked), I kind of wanted them to win so no one would crucify the kid. I feel more strongly about this fact pattern when it comes to amateurs vs. professionals, but still that just sucks. I also think to myself, what if that happened to the Bears (or for the Bears). I think I’d have died in either case.

3yr deal per Schefter. Staff coming together nicely...hopefully we see most of Fangio's coaches staying as well. As DA said, lets keep developing the existing talent but now to FIND MORE TALENT!!!

Chuck Pagano could be another very intriguing candidate. Extremely experienced, quality character, etc. While I still prefer continuity of Fangio I think we have a couple really strong options out there (as long as this doesn't drag on too long).

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 08:53 AM) I thought Arians was a defensive guy. Pure offense.

The Bearreport guy that has been close to this still thinks Fangio comes back to Bears. But Bears might be closer to giving an ultimatum. Also mentioned he didn't buy into the Fangio Shurmur stuff being a slam dunk. I think he said that basically Tuesday was the 1st time Nagy and Fangio talked so it isn't like Fangio's stall has been as bad as maybe us inpatient fans want to think it is. That said, he might also just stall a bit longer to kind of put the pressure on the Bears (never know).

Latest reports have Fangio headed to Arizona to be DC under Shermer (sp?). This would mean Vic stringed Bears along (wouldn't surprise me) and would mean we have to put full court press on Arizona's current DC (who would be a stellar hire).

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 07:21 AM) I recognize the Paul George is a good player but he is by far my least favorite good player around. And a team where he is the best player just...meh to me. I tend to agree with you. George is good, but not as dynamic as other elite players. He's still pretty good though and we need to get as many good players as possible and then hope one becomes elite (imo).

Given the young players who have developed / shown...does anyone think Paul George would be a good fit? Do the Bulls try making a run at George? Thinking out loud here. Or do they wait one more off-season?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 07:22 PM) Bulls win. Dunn was horrendous but Lauri dropped 33 on the knicks. I wonder if the Bulls are sitting Niko longer to see if trading him really would make them bad enough. Dunn couldn’t hit anything but he always gets really good looks in the paint. They just weren’t falling. Lauri has f***ing showed up when he plays against Porzingis. After that rough stretch he had, he’s gone back to being fantastic. Such a stellar pick.

3 Former Bears assistants on the staff. Tabor is a really good hire. Bringing Toub’s system back to Chicago. For him to survive as many coaches and GM’s in Cleveland was impressive. Browns ST wasn’t as good this past year but for most of his tenure they were very very good. Toub clearly put in a good word for Tabor with Nagy (and I’m presuming Tabor has to be thrilled to be coming back to Chicago). Patrick Mannelly gushed about Tabor earlier tonight.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 03:22 PM) Where are you seeing this? I searched twitter and can’t find anything that says Helfrich is being considered for the Bears I was relying what a couple other people told me. I can’t see twitter when I’m on my firewall so was relying on them being accurate. I know Helfrich has a standing offer to be the UCLA OC (rejoining Chip Kelly).

There was a rumor out there that the Bears might be interviewing the Arizona Cardinal DC for a spot on the staff. If there is any truth to that, I hope we get him (albeit I’d miss Fangio). Arizona DC’s is awesome. Fangio is really good too. Upside with Fangio is he is probably not going to get a HC job where as the Arizona DC is young, charismatic, well regarded and if he doesn’t get the Arizona job he’s probably getting a HC job sometime in the next couple of years.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 01:23 PM) Ah, think you are thinking of Kris Richard, their DC. Bevell is their OC. No I just can't type...said Bevell instead of Bradley.

Rumor out there that former Oregon head coach, Mark Helfrich, will be our offensive coordinator. Also indicating Fangio deal is officially done. Both of these reports are from the 1st guy that broke the Harry H news. Additionally, Bears wide receiver coach has left to join Broncos coaching staff.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 03:52 AM) Not following your last sentence on Bevell. What does that signify? Him or Pettine were supposedly our backup plan. So when they moved elsewhere as fast as they did, I presumed it was just another indicator that Fangio to Bears was happening.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 07:05 PM) Rappaport: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/950923362322305024 Things looking good. Yep; Bearreport has someone reporting it as done too. Hopefully it gets finalized by the time I'm up tomorrow. Will feel much better having that continuity (and an awesome DC locked back down). Reports are that Nagy put on a full court press for Fangio and that is why we are seeing teams interested in Fangio's services going another direction. Possibly why we are seeing Bevell sign with Chargers as well.

Will be interesting to see what happens. Obviously, new teams will be in play (once they hire coaches). Chargers and Seahawks are the two existing teams with openings (I believe). I guess technically Seattle does not have an opening so if Bradley went there it would be because their DC went somewhere else. Niners could still make a play to bring Fangio back (they wanted him a year ago).

Will be very interesting to see what happens with Niko and how fast. Seems like a ton of bidders coming in.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 02:27 PM) I think some fans would have loved for him to go up there and say Uh I think I will use Cohen as I did Hill....and Shaheen is definitely as dynamic as Kelce...Mitch will be an Alex Smith but with a Aaron Rodgers mentality...blah blah blah...the Bears will look like the Chiefs did but we will go even further because Mitch is a top end QB.... Meatball fans would eat that up and believe it. Yep...meatballs might like it, but it would be a bunch of BS. I think the reality is he's going to have to start really looking at film, etc. Naive for anyone to think that this guy, as the OC of the Chiefs, was spending that much time watching film on the Bears. Additionally, the reality is, given that he was prepping a team for the playoffs, he wasn't able to just spend a week (before the interview) taking a crash course on the Bears. I'm sure he was able to find some time to prep for Bears/Colts interviews but I think it was more talking about concepts, how they'd build the team, etc. It really had to help that Nagy had insights into Trubisky (which enabled Pace to move a bit quicker which might have helped seal the deal over the Colts). I think he felt the love and also obviously bought into the long-term plan.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 11:41 AM) He's certainly winning a press conference. Great answer on calling every play too. And good on Adam Hoge for asking Loved his answer and the transparency. Also just amazing how good of a rapport he seemed to have with Reid. Man Nagy was dynamic answering the various questions. Agree...he certainly won the press conference.

I get the feeling we aren't keeping Fangio though. I think there was a bit of hedging in the answers he gave around the defense. I suspect we are about to make a heavy push at Bevell (will make a heavy offer at Fangio) and will then see if we can pull one of them (or Pettine).