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That would irritate me. I want to know what Arizona was offering and whether Bills tried to move with Bears before going to Bucs? Presume Bucs were in the driver seat with offers from AZ and Buffalo.

Maybe they were trying to get Ridley?

I wonder if it is for Landry or Jackson or the other Georgia backer?

Exactly this. I would be stunned if Moncada doesn't have the higher WAR. I have never wavered on Yoan's talent, but I was skeptical on his average and still him, that said, over time, he's going to become just a total monster when you put it all together. It's going to be fun. If the pace of this rebuild gets sped up next year, I think he is going to be a huge reason why. Such a dynamic skill-set.

I'm totally okay with Davenport. Nice upside potential. I really think we are going LB of some sort. With this passing league if you can get an elite pass rusher, you do it. All depends on how you grade Davenport out. Seems like of all the guys likely to be there at 8, Davenport is near the top side in terms of ability to become an elite pass rusher, but he comes with a lot more risk given small school, etc. Pair that with Floyd and you are talking about a pretty dynamic combination.

Oh I agree, I don't see him falling to the Bears. Impossible.

While I think Barkley is a great pick...we already have a very good running back so I really have zero desire of Barkley falling to us. Odd to say and maybe famous last words...I just think we have a lot more areas of need and getting a really really good defensive player would be quite nice (as would getting an all pro type of guard).

Thoughts and prayers to the Renteria family and friends.

I really can't see Gar and him making it work. I could see Paxson making it work. I think Pax/Buckets are pretty similar. They just want to win and if that is the best path forward, they'll ignore the rest.

Interesting report from Cowley indicating Butler may want to finish his career in Chicago. While I haven't posted it here, he would be on my list of guys to get when he became a free agent. I just assumed it would never happen given the friction, but Butler had a lot of nice things to say about Reinsdorf and as the youth continues to gel, someone like Jimmy Buckets would be a nice fit (albeit likely not working with Hoiberg). Heck, half of the reason we traded him in the first place was because we didn't think he was worthy of a supermax in two years and now he isn't even eligible for a super max deal. https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/jimmy-butler-back-in-a-bulls-uniform-someday-not-as-far-fetched-as-it-sounds/

I completely agree with you. They essentially took the strategy of let everyone else pick last year, ended up with Kizer (who fell) and they took him. Now they are looking for a QB again. Just sack up and take the QB that you best believe in.

Yeah - I would not even think about taking Barkley at #1. That is crazy talk. If Browns don't want to take a QB, they should trade down.

I disagree. Take your QB. Do not gamble on your QB. You have the #1 pick, take who you like the most at that position. Than take best position player at 4 or move down.

Fantastic thread Jimmy. I think one other key point to highlight, beyond all the excellent points you make, is the fact that we are talking about a catcher, which is the one position whose development curve is entirely different. Catchers flat out require the most development of any position and when you counter in the amount of work they have to do to get big league ready behind the plate as well as hone their craft at calling a game, etc, in addition to the pure development of the bat and than add in the natural wear and tear that comes from being a catcher, and you really have to be extremely patient. Very rarely do you see catchers who have the more typical linear progression that you see out of other top position prospects and it is because of the facts above that I listed (among other things).

If Cousins was healthy, I'd be all over him. With where he stands, I presume he is going to go with a shorter-term deal. That said, Boogie is just not a guy I'd bet against. For all the knocks on him, he works hard.

He's incredible. Will be interesting to see where he goes this off-season.

I think we trade down and take Landry. If we stay put, I think we take Davenport / Edmunds / Smith. The nice thing is I like most all of the options that will be there at 8, so I don't expect to be dissapointed in the pick (doesn't mean said player will actually pan out). Most drafts there are a couple guys that I really don't want, but I don't have that feel right now with the vareity of LB's that will be considered at 8 and similarly if we went with the DB's, while it isn't high on my list I wouldn't mind. I suppose the only spot I don't want to go at 8 is wideout (of the possible options).

Interesting. Mayfield #1 to Browns is what people are reporting. Nothing official. This is going to be an interesting 1st round and the Josh Allen stuff made it even more intriguing. Really don't know what to expect by the time the Bears are on the clock and I honestly have no idea which route we take.

Davenport certainly fits the bill of a prototypical Pace draft pick. Lots of upside, but obviously much more raw player.

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The reason I ask the above question is I have been shocked at how quiet the Bulls have been. Paxson has made it so public at how much he disliked tanking and that they have no intention of doing it for another season, which leads me to believe, they intend to get good and fast (vs. stay bad for a few years and accumulate high picks to increase the odds of maybe hitting a star on one of those high picks). With that in mind, are the Bulls secretly planning some big assault to get good and fast but quietly play coy in the public eye to keep expectations low? Or is it more that they don't like this free agent class enough and their intend is essentially get one more top 10-15 pick before loading up in free agency a year from now? The only problem with that strategy is there are likely to be a lot more teams under the cap at that point and recent history has shown bad teams have a hard time signing top free agents.

So I have a Bulls related question. Paxson and Gar have made it pretty clear that the Bulls are going to have a pretty quiet off-season. No one is expecting any aggressive courting of free agents with the plan really be to add in some more draft picks and let the team naturally improve. No intent to "tank" but given the talent level of the team, you are still probably talking about a team that will get a top 15 pick in next years draft (my bet would be it is a top 10 pick). Really the only major decision expected is related to Lavine and what happens. I presume it will be a long dragged out negotiation and ultimately I expect Bulls to sign him for 4 yrs 15M per year (+/- $3M/yr). With all this in mind is this the right path? Or is there an opportunity for the Bulls to make an aggressive play? They could do so via free agency (Paul George / Lebron / Boogie) or they could do so via trade and make an aggressive play on Kwahi? If you were running the franchise what would you do? Would you try to find your star piece via trade (i.e., Kwahi) and if so, what would it take for the Bulls to acquire him (meaning what assets would be left and would the franchise have money / cap space to add another piece via FA to go along with Kwahi).

Given the move to the new site, I wanted to make a separate thread for anyone who has questions on the new software / tool or is running into any issues. Additionally, for those people who had changed usernames from their original and thus reverted back to the original username (upgrade required this), if you want your name changed, let us know and we can correct. If anyone is having issues and can't send messages or other items, please email me at Bullsback@gmail.com.

It is what Southsider said. Occasionally posts or sub-forums have been cleaned up over the years. To the extent that happened, when the database and forum were refreshed, the user counts were updated. We tried to delete all of Southsider's posts but with how many posts he had, the site would have been down for weeks

What was the trick / issue? Just in case others are running into it.