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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 06:26 AM) Plus I get the feeling that the Marlins aren't paying cash out for contracts if they weren't willing to get better players while doing so in the Hanley deal. They can't even pretend that was a baseball trade, even though they will try. Part of that is the Dodgers don't have much in terms of prospects. Olney reported the Dodgers didn't want to give up there top guys and apparently they were the only team willing to eat the whole contract. Marlins had considered throwing in cash to other teams, Dodgers just didn't have the specs to make it worthwhile, hence they went this route. When you look at Hanley's numbers the past 2 years, this deal could end up being good for the Marlins as Hanley isn't playing near the level of his contract. However, a change of scenery might get him straightened back up.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 04:53 AM) A firesale that involves trading someone in the first year of a 4-year deal would be unprecedented, even for the Marlins. I'd love Buehrle back, but I wouldnt' give up a ton in return and I'd expect Miami to eat some of the contract. That probably won't happen.

So is Lee or Halladay going to get dealt? I don't expect the Phils to keep all 3. They are in a financial mess, with 96M going to 4 guys. Barring them maintaining just an exorbitant payroll, someone will have to go.

Wohooooo! Lets get the sweep tomorrow!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:58 PM) Congrats, Husky Caucasian! :headbang

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 08:07 PM) Escobar with a better at-bat there than Beckham's had in four tries. I know Escobar has zero power, but when I watch him he seems to have good at bats. I'd be curious how he did with extended playing time. Could he end up being one of those guys who can handle a stick and hit .270. Probably wouldnt' be that beneficial since he doesn't walk enough.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:32 PM) Jason, at some point you have to call a spade a spade. This organization has continually put themselves in this position, and it started when they decided they were so smart and MJ and the gang were done, and it has never stopped. I'm just really confused at what they could do. What are you proposing? What else could they have done which would have brought Lebron? What can they do to get Dwight? And I really don't understand the comparison to MJ and the gang and being so smart. That was Krause. Krause is long gone. What could the Bulls have done?

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 08:06 PM) looking forward to blackburn/peavy tomarrow. we killed blackburn last time and his era is over 7 in his last 3 stars One game at a time. Still got to finish this one off.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 08:05 PM) Just my opinion but the Sox just seems so much more relaxed this season. After last weekend, they could have rolled over tonight after 4-2. The RV factor? I think it has a lot to do with Robin, but I also think it has to do with the team getting a bit healthier (and also being due).

Nice double by Dunn to give the Sox a nice cushion. Personally, I feel so much better about the pen knowing that the club has Crain/Myers. Moves Nate down in the pecking order (and also takes some pressure off, which is good since he is a rook) and takes a lot of pressure off Thorty.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:59 PM) Jeff Baker (32) Robinson Cano (30) - $15MM club option with a $2MM buyout Mike Fontenot (33) Orlando Hudson (35) - $8MM club option with a $2MM buyout Maicer Izturis (32) Kelly Johnson (31) Adam Kennedy (37) Jeff Keppinger (33) Jose Lopez (29) has done fairly well subbing for CLE this year Aaron Miles (36) Freddy Sanchez (35) Ryan Theriot (33) Not many good options. Kelly Johnson would be a nice get, Izturis would be a good DP partner with Ramirez. Keppinger has been a valuable performer for the Rays but not sure he's an everyday player at this stage in his career. I would have zero problem making a move to get Izturis. He's solid defensively, good on the paths, and a solid hack hitter. When he's gotten more extended at bats he's been decent. As a whole that is not a pretty looking list though. It sucks cause Becks is a total stud defensively. He's just a wreck offensively. The worse part is, a lot of it is mental (he's got a horrendous approach and zero confidence and as a result he swings at crap and tinkered/ruined his swing).

Flowers looked good in his at bats today.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:51 PM) Yep, but for KW to inquire about an outfielder, it seems like he COULD be considering bigger deals with Viciedo involved in them. I think it had more to do with the fact that he could platoon a bit with Viciedo down the stretch and add some speed off the bench (if the price is right). Maybe it is cause they'd deal Dayan, but if they were, it better be for someone that is a difference maker and that the Sox can have control of.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) I would take Ackley for Beckham and give them $2.5 million in cash. I know Ackley is having a down year, but its going to take a lot more then that.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:40 PM) A very underrated story on soxtalk the last 24 hours is that KW tried to acquire Ichiro. He was told Ichiro wasn't on the block though. I assume the price wouldn't have been expensive. I kind of get the feeling Ichiro wasn't on the market for anyone, basically he wanted to go to the Yanks and that is where they sent him.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:38 PM) Loaded for Gordon "PROVE YOU ALL WRONG" Beckham. Ahahaha. Typical Gordo. Awful.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:32 PM) Wow, thought that was gone off the bat. Great swing by Rios Rios is having one hell of a year.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:25 PM) Way to get together to correct it and get it right, well done. You mean wrong. The replays showed it was trapped. Or at least the ones on the Twins feed sure did.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:01 PM) Hit a homer, Gordon Lol Fathom. That isn't possible. Gordon is worthless at the plate. I'm on a delayed feed, but awful call by the umps. That was a leadoff single by De Aza.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 06:51 PM) Tough to blame a guy that has saved our asses the last two months. He should have three more wins, easy. He still went 6.1 innings, giving up 4 runs. That isn't bad. He was also cruising up until the 5th. He's approaching highs in innings, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if he tailed off, but It would be ignorant to say that is what we should expect. We knew we weren't going to get a 2.2 ERA all year. Dude didn't have his off speed stuff going and battled through.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 06:44 PM) Bigger lemmings... Bulls or Cubs fans? What a ridiculous comparison. One team barely ever goes to the playoffs and has done nothing to win. Bulls may not have won a title since Jordan, but last I checked, very few teams have (with a few teams winning the majority of the titles post-MJ). As a whole the Bulls have been one of the more successful teams since Scott Skiles took over (and it continued under Del Negro & Thibbs). This includes having the most wins the past 2 years.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 06:16 PM) It's always the same thing, it just didn't work out. We deserve better Isn't that them going for it though? What can you do if the other team says no? They traded Hinrich, etc for the shot of offering 2 max deals. They missed. They did the same in the summer of 2000 or whenever it was.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 06:55 PM) Anyone have Konerko's numbers since this thread was started? Since the break he has a .400 + OBP and a .400+ Slugging percentage.

Damn. Youk popped out. Two seperate good opportunities with 2 outs and runners on.

Lets get some runs.