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Yet another reason Ozzie shoudl go. Kalapse post was the best post and really sums up the sorry state of this organization. Really sad how one man, err, one family, has done so many bad things to the overall organization (sans the 2005 championship). Pathetic. The guy is right up there with Frank McCourt as being complete and utter disgraces to the game of baseball. Maybe it isn't him, but he's the moron letting his kid run around like a complete an utter moron. I really think if the Sox fired Ozzie we'd see this team start to play like the team we expected. I just get the sneaking suspicion a lot of guys want nothing to do with the Wizard of Oz.

Is it worth it to see Harry Potter in 3d?

And just like that, trade winds is closed.

Ahahahah. I'm an asshole.

Aramis for Sale.

Why is Lilli at first?

Spencer can also play guard though, so this could be a depth move and truly not indicate that Kreutz isn't still an option.

Bears still have money to sign another olineman. Spencer sounds better the more I read. He had some injuries, one back injury, plus a broken hand, but he toughed through them most of the time. Played 16 games in 3 of his 5 seasons, 14 in another season, and 11 in another. So not quite as injury prone as I initially feared. Still, Kreutz was Mr. dependable.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) One thing is certain: Spencer is awful and a downgrade. I don't know if I can directly say that. Spencer played pretty solid the 2nd half of last year. But given the short camp and the ridiculous amount of in-experience in our oline, I don't like bringing on someone new to anchor our line. Oline is past his prime and not very good, but he's still the leader, captain, and the guy that knows everyone. I'd have much rather of had O'Hara. Problem is he's coming off of injuries. Hell, there aren't really any good C candidates out there.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) Carlos Guillen almost got his teammate killed by staring at his homerun. Punk move by Guillen. DOubly punk move by Guillen. That was bad.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 12:01 PM) Humber really didn't get hit that hard. Two infield singles, pretty bad defense/shoddy play behind him. AJ having ZERO ability to control the running game. He did get a bit rattled, but hey, it's the Red Sox. He'll learn over time. That's the one encouraging thing. He watched the video of his performance and was actually pleased with his pitch execution and location. Just that a lot of the breaks he'd been getting the first 3 months have started going against him now. I'm not panicking. I thought Humber had nice looking stuff yesterday and was rolling till the Red Sox got some bleeders and Boston, who has a deep offesne, was able to make things happen.

This offense is very bad. Greg Walker should be gone and the team should be retooling a bit.

Kreutz is never going to get close to 4M from anyone else. But sounds like Lovie, Urlacher and the rest of the players are freaking pissed about Kreutz not coming back.

I wanted Cullen. Eagles sign Babin, Cullen, and Namda. Ridiculous.

Gavin! Pierre! Konerko (Sac Fly) AJP (Game Winner)! Thorty! Santos!

QUOTE (MuckFinnesota @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:33 PM) No decision has been made yet and I don't really want to get into the specifics of the situation. But I would primarily be helping out at training camp & doing less work in the office. If I did stay around, maybe their perceptions would think even more highly of me but it sounds like I am getting contacts and a recommendation regardless. Not knowing the situations, sticking around would go a huge way. Plus getting to see the way a training camp is ran would be pretty cool and could be very beneficial in your future experience if you work in PR in sports. You could learn stuff at this training camp that you could apply during future spring trainings, etc.

I believe sometimes High BP can be purely genetic as well. You might be healthy in all other areas, but still have high blood pressure. You also will want to check your blood pressure pretty regularly as you get on the medicine to get a better read. When I had my last physical, my doctor diagnosed me with high blood pressure (140/85). Obviously that isn't ridiculously high, but it was high. I went home and took a reading and I was 115/75, which is pretty darn normal. Never took the medication as the more I checked myself, the more I realized my high BP has to do with my massive fear of hospitals/doctors/etc. I step foot into one of those places and my heart just races. Doctor than checked me at my next physical, but waited till the end, when I had calmed down, and got a pretty normal reading. But it is important to make sure you take the appropriate medication and stay on top of it because high blood pressure can be a very serious problem, but it also seems to be something that a huge amount of the population has.

I think no matter what, if Quentin & Danks stay, the Sox are going to do whatever they can to move those guys as part of the retooling process. Maybe they'll offer extensions to both, I think they will at least try with Danks again, prior to trying a trade. I also think the club will see how creative they can get with Rios over the off-season. See if another team likes him and has a bad contract that the Sox wouldn't mind taking on.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 01:01 PM) Jayson Stark An exec of one team that kicked tires on Carlos Quentin says he thinks #WhiteSox just laying groundwork to deal him this winter #trades Best case scenario, DeAza produces and the Sox can move Quentin for another outfielder and other prospects and you have an outfield of prospect, DeAza, Viciedo. Than in the wings you have Mitchell, Thompson, and Walker.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 12:57 PM) They're both overpaid, past their prime, possession receivers. I don't know if Williams is past his prime or not. He went to a place where he wasn't the #1 option and at times was more the #3 option. With that he got lackadasical and his play and statistics suffered. In Chicago, it will be a completely different scenario. He will be the #1 wide-out, although Knox/Hester/Bennett will still get a lot of playing time, but Williams is the only one with his size/stature. Williams isn't old or out of his prime. I really think the big reason his play/stats suffered had to do with him being soft mentally and not getting the love in big D. I don't think that will be the case in Chicago cause there is just no way the Bears offense isn't heavily built around him. Plus, he should be able to adjust relatively quickly and learn the system soon, which will be great. I really like this move, but I've always liked Roy. And I have always felt the Bears needed a guy with this type of talent a top our wide receiving corps.

I wonder if Kenny would get involved in something like this. He loves making big splashes and if he thought Danks was a goner, he could swing Danks for prospects and than potentially turn around and add a cost controlled front of the rotation pitcher like Jimenez to the team. Clearly the price would be astronomical, but sometimes Kenny does crazy things and rolls the dice. I still think there is absolutely no way that Jimenez is moved though.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 12:52 PM) The Phillies and Braves will absolutely refuse to help the other out. That is probably the case, but they both are working to get into the playoffs. As long as each team thinks they get the better fit, whose to say it doesn't work out. Stranger things have happened. I still think the most realistic scenario is one where the Sox get Brown plus a prospect. The Sox can than try to swing some sort of deal involving Rios (with cash included) and can than plug Brown & Viciedo into the OF with Pierre. Clearly, over the short-run, this is a downgraded outfield. But the Sox can than make a deal to add a bat at 3B or somewhere else all while retooling multiple areas of the club and creating a lot more financial flexibility going forward.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 12:51 PM) Ugh, that'd be an awful trade for the Sox for both the present and future. Why do you say that. Bourn is in his prime and has put up pretty respectable leadoff numbers and plays good defense. And clearly the Sox are going to need a top of the order hitter as they don't have any that profile in the system/currently on the club. On top of that you get another good prospect or two back. Not saying it is the preferred approach but who knows if it is realistic to expect a package of Brown plus another top prospect from the Phillies.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:47 AM) BNightengale Bob Nightengale @ @JacobSamp17 If Sox trade Quentin, they are demanding players back who can help right now since they're only 2 back in loss column Why not trade Quentin and find a way to pick up Bourn. Put him and Pierre at the top and than use Bourn going forward at the leadoff spot (when Pierre leaves). I still think the Sox could move Quentin and than buy elsewhere. Of course, that is tougher to do than a 3 way deal where you are getting exactly what you want. I definitely don't see the White Sox "waiving" the White flag though. Unless they get swept by Boston and Detroit/Cleveland sweep whomever they are playing.

QUOTE (The '05 Sound @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) Rosenthal: Another holdup in #Astros' Pence talks with #Phillies: Astros also trying to move Bourn, Wandy, B. Myers. #tradedeadline #MLGB Astros are just trying to do anything they can to make the Phillies pull out of the Pence deal themselves. Astros dont want to move him. Couldn't a 4 team deal potentially make sense. White Sox land Bourn plus prospects, Phillies land one of Pence/Quentin, Braves land the other, Astros get prospects from both teams.