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I love it, Washington didn't dick around. They strolled right out there and made the pick. Great pick for the SKins, imo. HOw long were the Skins even on the clock?
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Minor League Catch-All thread 2009 edition
Chisoxfn replied to southsider2k5's topic in FutureSox Board
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I highly doubt Hester is dealt, unless they get a 1st rounder and even than I question how the Bears will benefit from the move unless they want to save money. Hester can make it as a WR or at least has a better shot than most of the WR's available. Now if there is a defensive player or something else they really love than I'd be okay .
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QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Apr 25, 2009 -> 01:26 PM) the bears would lose his bloated salary too... i don't know how much money was given to him as a signing bonus, but if they could get rid of guaranteed money, and give it to Boldin -- it might make sense. Still... we'd still only have 1 receiver I dunno, and trading Hester seems odd to me for some reason. It is tough to do that in the NFL though. I'd liek the deal a lot more if you could just clear a ton of salary like it works in baseball, but I don't think you'd get much benefit for moving Hester financially speaking. Could be wrong though.
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QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Apr 25, 2009 -> 01:23 PM) If the Bears can get Boldin for a second and Hester... they better do it like RIGHT NOW!! I think its too much to give up. If you get a 3rd back in the deal than I'd consider it, but Boldin has too many health risks to me. Plus wouldn't there be some serious cap implications with the trade or would it be easy to actually move Hesters contract (I assume he got a big signing bonus though and all of that would hit the cap this year which I guess the Bears could afford but they'd also have a lot of guaranteed money going to Boldin for his new contract as well as the money probably going to CUtler if he does a good job this year). Oh I would trade Hester for a more proven WR, but than again, I'd rather have Braylon than Boldin. Braylon has had less production but overall I like him more for some reason, mainly because I think the price is less.
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Crabtree goes right here. Damn, talk about upgrading your WR corps. From Matt Jones/Jerry Porter/Reggie Willams to Crabtree/Holt. I'm shocked the Raiders do this though. They love speed.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 25, 2009 -> 01:21 PM) Where you see this? http://www.nbcchicago.com/sports/football/...-the-Block.html
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Ya, I think thats exactly it. BUt I got to give the Jets credit. Good move.
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Wow, Jets didn't give up much. Just a 2nd rounder. Thats a steal.
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Some rumors swirling that Hester is on the block. Quite interesting.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 25, 2009 -> 07:59 AM) http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php Bears getting Nicks in the second, thats what ive been wanting forever. Nicks is built like Boldin and from what ive seen Nicks is going to be a good NFL player. Nicks is the guy I want too. He's strong, physical and will go out and get the football. I think he has a chance to be one of those guys that isn't amazingly quick but finds ways to make plays. Much like TO and Boldin do. I don't know if he can or will but thats who I want. I'll get excited over almost any WR, but Nicks is the guy that excites me the most and otherwise I have no problem moving down and taking Mike Wallace later on purely because of his measurables.
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QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 01:49 PM) Except its on a Saturday, so it doesn't need to be in prime time as most people will be able to watch whenever. Add in the fact that starting it at noon still takes it into primetime anyways. Plus if they did that, they'd want to start the 1st round in prime time and than just do all the remaining rounds on day 2. That would be the smart way to do it cause everyone tunes in for the first few picks but a lot of people zone in and out after that.
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I don't like the idea of giving up another pick and I do think Boldin has a lot of injury concerns, but I wouldn't be opposed to giving up a 2nd round pick for Boldin.
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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 23, 2009 -> 09:34 PM) NFL draft > SB The SB has become one gigantic freak show. The actual game has become almost secondary. The NFL draft is football purists dream come true. Actually I'll go the exact opposite. They string out the NFL Draft way too long. It needs to be cut down and teams don't need that much time in between picks, imo. I know they've already made some adjustments but as things drag out its pretty ridiculous that the first round takes as long as it does (than again, these franchises are making a big investment on these guys, however, with the months they have to do the homework I would think pretty much every team has lists to the extent that they know for the most part exactly who they are going to draft come draft day (although the ocassional surprise happens). So really the only reason you need time is for trades.
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Our gray road uni's are the best jerseys.
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White Sox (7-6) @ Orioles (7-7) 6:05pm CDT on WCIU
Chisoxfn replied to Disco72's topic in 2009 Season in Review
QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 22, 2009 -> 06:31 PM) .316 AVG and .386 OBP for Getz Unfortunately he awakes in a cold sweat every night out of fear of leading the next day's game. I f***ing love Getz. -
Come on....its Hard Hitten Mark Whitten, not Hard Hitting Quentin
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Thanks for the well wishes everyone!!!! I'm getting old....26...but the good news is that I still can't dunk, lol, but I can still get out on the court a few days a week and put up bricks.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 08:01 PM) Anderson simply cannot hit a major league fastball. His swing is way too big...and he hasn't shown any ability to be short and quick. Ray just threw center cut fastballs with no movement right down the pike and Anderson wasn't even close. As Harrelson says, if you can't hit the fastball, you're not long for the majors. The problem is that Brian isn't a very good offspeed hitter either. He has a "slider speed" bat and until he can tighten up that swing, he'll always be a 4th/5th outfielder no matter how well he can field, run and throw. If all Brian saw was fastballs, he'd be pretty darn good. He's got a long swing but if he saw fastballs he'd belt 40+ hr's with a .250ish average all while playing gold glove defense. He has awful pitch recognition and is always caught in between. Not to mention his long swing prevents him from being able to adjust and put consistent swings on the ball.
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Quentin is a potential MVP but I'm glad we don't have to argue. We'll have all of them on the South Side for a while longer!!!
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QUOTE (BearSox @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 07:01 PM) Looked like he wasn't the prospect we thought he was.... In all seriousness though, you gotta like the starting pitching talent we got down in Kanny. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I firmly believe that Hudson is the best starting pitching prospect we have. I wouldn't disagree with that. I don't think Omogrosso is a starter long-term, nor is Poreda and I freaking love Hudson. I do think Omo and Poreda are both going to be very good relievers. I also think Link and Matt Long have a chance and I'm very curious as to what this Infante guy has and whether Garret Johsnon has increased his velocity.
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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 10:28 AM) Betemit's only played out there twice, he isn't an option. If they ditch Owens then we have 3.5 CF (Alexei and Quentin has played the position, hell Jim Callis thinks we should start him there) on the roster and maybe 6 guys that can play the corners in a pinch (Dye, Quentin, Anderson, Lillibridge, Getz, Ramirez). I don't see it as a problem. I'd have no problem with Quentin in CF and finding a way to get a guy like Allen up and playing LF. Our defense already sucks, might as well try to rake.
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If you've seen his swing, you'd know that he's capable of hitting AA. I expect him to improve as the season goes and as he gets more comfortable. He might be a year or two away but I wouldn't be shocked to see him knocking at the door by seasons end and getting a job to start next season.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 09:42 PM) That's a great point, especially with his strikeout numbers plummeting. It was those strikeouts that kept him in games, because he constantly had runners in scoring position. A walk is a double and he essentially is giving up about 4 doubles a game via the base on balls and than pretty much any single turns into a double. Its hard to get by for an extended time when you do that and don't have strikeout stuff. I've yet to see a good fork ball out of him either and his fastball and other secondary stuff (plus his command) are nowhere near good enough to be successful in the bigs without that fork. The problem is that despite what people might believe, the Sox really don't have great internal options for there rotation. Floyd/Buehrle/Danks are all rock solid but most scouts would tell you there are a lot of flaws with Poreda as a starter (not many as a reliever though) and Marquez has a long ways to go (I personally am not a fan, he has a long long ways to go) and well Broadway is really our best internal option, imo. Broadway has good movement, numerous pitches, including a very solid curve, and as a whole I actually think with time you could see him having a very solid career as a league average starter. The guys in the Sox system that pitch that I like are all too far away to make the rotation (there are relievers that I like too). Richard is the wild card. The guy can look phenomenal at times and he has pretty good stuff, but his command needs to improve and he needs an additional pitch if he's going to stick in the rotation. However, Kenny better be ready to be agressive and its why I thought the Sox should have looked at bringing back Garland given the price. Note: I'm not about to write Jose off though. The guy was removed from baseball for a while and didn't have a full spring. He deserves 2-3 more starts and I hope he gets better each and every start.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 21, 2009 -> 08:58 PM) And you should see the teams he has to face in his next 5 outings. I give him credit, but he has had very little of anything since his major run. He had some quality starts early last year but even than I wasn't confident in him. HE just has so many issues with command, holding runners, etc, that it means he has to truly dominate to not give up a ton of runs.
