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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 05:14 PM) Absolutely! Let's get Gavid Floyd to play center field. That way, you can b**** about him every day! Woot, new life on soxtalk! Oh wait a minute.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 04:41 PM) Sometimes when you want something from some other country that is your ally since your existence as a country, you don't just tell them to f*** off and do what we say, or we'll just do it ourselves! It really wasn't effective at all - in any way. Well, to be fair, France told us to f*** off on Iraq because they were in bed with Saddam for billions on the oil for food program. I wonder why they told us that, then? *shocker*, huh?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) Meh I don't really see it that way. He talked about this during the campaign in so many words, if something isn't working, then try something else. Well, I'm not sure how to say this, but when you go to Europe and bend over, both figureatively and literally, to everyone else in the world, I have a problem with the words that are being used. Cuba isn't so much of an issue to me... but the manner of which all this is going down bugs me. Whatever. It's just semantics, I guess.

QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) I am aware of this concept of sarcasm, your post just wasn't useful in showing it Especially considering you think its called "pop"

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) i believe the individuals whom shot the economic freedom fighters should stand trial. for murder. If this were Iraq under a GWB adminstration, they would... and John Kerry would be proud to talk about our soldiers raping and killing in the middle of the night again, even though he was lying through his teeth.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 02:49 PM) Oh, Menendez, I forgot about him. Party affiliation doesn't really matter if they're Cuban because they all support the embargo. I never really figured out why, either. Not a single person has ever given me a coherent argument for it. After 50 years, there really isn't one. As I said earlier, I just think it's a case of "America was wrong, AGAIN, let's fix it"... since that's about all Obama can say or do. And frankly, the US isn't "wrong" but I know all you libs love this touchy feely adminstration saying America loves everyone again.

Like most of you, I do think it's a pointless exercise to continue the embargo, but I can hardly wait to see all of the Cuba defeats US crap.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 12:16 PM) It's not like the "punishment" was really effective anyway. Didn't Castro pretty much get whatever he wanted anyway? BTW I'm pretty certain that if we don't start trading with Cuba soon, Russia and/or China will. Huh? They already do, don't they? So does Canada and the Caribbean nations.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 12:14 PM) Here's the actual question then...what body has the authority to try the survivor? Somalia itself doesn't even have a court system, they haven't had a government in 20 years. Current law is essentially out of date because no one has had to deal with pirates as a major problem in such a long time. Current extant law would have exactly what you don't want; pirates captured by a country would be tried by the country that captured them or that they had attacked. In this case, they'd attacked a U.S. flagged ship, were captured/killed by the U.S., so the only option currently in the law would be for the U.S. to try them. Unless, of course, the U.S. were to acknowledge the legitimacy of an international body, like the International Criminal Court. Which is of course what I'd prefer, but the U.S. has refused to participate in that court because of the fact that it could someday try U.S. citizens for things like ordering or committing torture and other war crimes. I, like lf just said, think it should go the tribunal route.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 11:11 AM) Yeah, I sort of glossed over that, and it looks like they're going to rule in favor of Franken, too. Which I guess would make Coleman's next logical choice to appeal to the feds if he wanted to keep dragging it out... now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Senate has the ability to tell the feds they have no jurisdiction (assuming the feds don't defer back to the MNSC, as they really should), correct? For the Republicans to try to filibuster something like that would directly conflict with everything they've ever said about states' rights. I would think that the only appeal would be to the US Supreme court. I can't possibly see where they would have grounds to take this to federal court... (I didn't read the article, so I don't know how they have the grounds to do that.)

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 11:59 AM) No surprises here. I was going to post this CNN article the other day but 3/4 of Americans support normalizing relations with Cuba: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/10/pol...iref=newssearch It just makes no sense to do it when it has not produced one tangible result in the four decades since we've had all these restrictions. I'm torn on this one. I think that they should relax the embargo, but I think it should be done when Castro dies. The reason is now he gets "rewarded" and get to say that "he defeated the US after 40 years"... and that's the problem with it. You've just rewarded his dictatorship.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 10:51 AM) If it was sarcasm, so be it. Didnt seem very sarcastic to me, and its pretty similar to other arguments ive heard from conservatives/republicans, so I apologize if I didnt see the intended sarcasm. Its nice to know that you agree that the US should treat everyone equally. Seriously, what I do think is that these guys do have a right to a trial. I do think that they have a right to be brought up on charges or let go. I do NOT think that they should be tried in a US courts and have rights that a US citizen would have. And they are different.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 10:36 AM) Yeah, you're right about this. At the time I was a registered Democrat. After Kerry's horses*** campaign and seeing there were no real leaders in the Democratic party, I got disgusted with them and registed independent and didn't pay attention to politics for a while. I started leaning libertarian and thought about registering Republican until I started paying attention and realizing that it was about conflicting ideologies and that they took their principles for granted (they still do although they claim to "get it" now, as a result the party is a disaster right now). As of now, I'm only concerned with basic competence. People tend to not believe me, but I honestly would vote for a Republican for president if they weren't a stereotype whose beliefs and actions were disconnected from reality, e.g. we want to start a second simultaneous war so we're going to cut taxes because that doesn't at all sound completely ridiculous, oh, and this war will be easy. After the election I was thinking I wanted to see some leadership come out of the GOP and it's best for the country to have a strong conservative presence to counter liberals, and I still think that. But it's clear to me that it's not going to happen anytime soon, and they've literally tied their fortunes to the possible failure of Obama for 2010. So conservative leadership won't be coming out of the GOP, at least for the time being, what with their joke budgets and silly half-serious proposals. Therefore I'm really just hoping the party just dies, and a new brand of conservative party comes out of it; the latter isn't that farfetched and wouldn't take that long if the former happened. And I agree with this too. I better put the computer down before the three year old destroys my house.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 10:24 AM) Put me in the camp of the fiscal conservative with an apethetic social view (unless it happens in front of me, or involves me personally, I really don't care). My biggest issue with "my" party is that we're pandering to the extreme right for no good reason. They have no alternative. It's either the conservative or the extremely scary, socialism loving, gay supporting, fetus killing Democrat. To me that was the biggest failure of the McCain campaign - instead of working the middle, they grab a Sarah Palin to motivate the extreme right. They lost out on a lot of the undecideds by doing that and they gained nothing. Really, IMO these social issues are so worthless. Abortion and gay marriage are the most overrated, over talked about issues in the history of the world. I cannot believe how much press has been given to these issues, at least on a national level. They're issues that are drummed up to be important because the country is generally stupid when it comes to true issues, so it's easier to pick candidate A from candidate B with some "moral" issue. [my only interest in the gay marriage issue is the legal aspect. I'm sick and disgusted at how a bunch of old geezers sitting behind a bench have the gaul to tell an entire state what is moral and immoral. Technicalities aside, the Iowa supreme court (and Colorado and others) have decided a social issue, not a constitutional one....and i come from the position of not caring either way about gay marriage] And for the liberals poking fun/ridiculing/chastising the current "GOP strategy," the Dems did the EXACT same thing in the 2004 cycle. It was lots of pointing fingers, saying this move is the dumbest move in the history of the world, rallying the extreme base, and generally just being nasty. I think that's what every party does when they are out of power. I agree except a couple of points, which I will go into detail about later. Gotta kid-sit for a while.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) Come on, you think that US citizens would have been treated any different in a hostage stand off? Perhaps you should ask the Branch Davidian compound how nice they were treated because they were US citizens... I think you are confusing the argument of how "alleged" foreign terrorists are being treated, with an argument of how actual foreign pirates are being treated. When you catch some one in the act, they are no longer "alleged" and when you are in hot pursuit the same rules dont apply. But then again, that is the same in the US, so not sure what the argument is. The original post was called sarcasm.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 10:05 AM) kap being a victim!? Yes, I'm becoming a Democrat for the day.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 09:48 AM) Ratio of liberals to conservatives here is like 3 to 1. edit: also, holy s***, not this argument again. Can we have one week go by without doing this? I think a lot of us let a hell of a lot roll off when it came to GWB. It's because we knew he was wrong a lot. Obama is NEVER wrong. That's the picture being painted, and it's hypocritical. Furthermore, as SS said, it's HI-LAR-IOUS when Comedy Show, or anyone else mocks anything "conservative". When something gets mocked about other stances, panties get bunched up here faster then the ShamWow dude with a hooker. It's interesting to watch the squirming because the criticism is just too much for a liberal to take. Well, hell, welcome to the club, since that's all that has been done to conservatives for YEARS. People get paid a hell of a lot of money in the name of "comedy" but when the opposite happens, it's blaspheme on a message board? is my response to that.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 09:45 AM) What does that have to do with this situation? Our citizens would have been treated the exact same way in a hostage situation. These pirates have U.S. citizen rights, you know...

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) You're asking me? No. It's the point. Of course, that was before I read the rest of the thread... it is true that "liberals" cannot take the same thing they've been dishing for 8 years. How dare the Messiah get questioned!

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 12, 2009 -> 10:37 PM) I think he's saying he's tired of seeing people bash Obama and/or mock the liberal base just for the sake of doing it. Really? I see post after post after post after post after post by these same people who think foreign folks should have the same exact rights as our citizens. When the equation comes out in a different circumstance, well, then, we step over the line?

QUOTE (BobDylan @ Apr 12, 2009 -> 06:28 PM) Explain? The two biggest gripes I hear are about UAC and Indexing. The next biggest one is crashes. UAC is a joke and was absolutely a terrible idea, but after a Google search, it is simple to turn off. Indexing, while a nice idea on the surface, it turned out to be garbage. So I turned that off too. As far as crashes, Firefox 3.0 is about the only program I run that consistently drops. The OS hasn't dropped a single time on me, nor has Word, Photoshop, MediaMonkey, Filezilla, etc, etc. I run the 64-bit version on a homebrew machine. Viruses? I just don't get them. I don't know how other people do, but I don't run any virus programs or firewalls, and I just don't get them. Perhaps this is odd to say, but in all, I had more problems with XP than I have had with Vista. Granted, I waited about a year after Vista's release until I installed it. Look how much you have had to disable just to make it usable. If the resources were what they should be, you shouldn't have to do all that just to make the thing run. If all you do is surf and listen/watch music/videos, then it's probably ok. If you do anything that forces hard work on your machine, it kills it.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 12, 2009 -> 04:38 PM) sounds like a violation of the pirates civil rights. should we form a protest group? We gotta be sure to read them their rights before any action like this is taken again. I'm pissed. WTF is our government thinking?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 12, 2009 -> 09:26 AM) I'll be pissed if they do something to the polar bear because of this idiot. TRU posted about this.

Don't take it to the buster. This (the drunk driving part) doesn't need discussed anywhere else.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 11, 2009 -> 01:39 PM) http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090410/D97FPQ380.html yea, i don't see how this could go wrong. cause hyper-inflation. hurt the economy. 200 billion in debt per month. Obama you are courting a complete economic meltdown But it's the only way ... we need nationalized cars, energy, healthcare, construction, banks ... starting to sound a bit like China or USSR of old.