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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 09:18 PM) So, for the people who are genuinely pissed off about this...I want an answer to a simple question. What positive thing does Don Imus and this sort of talk bring to our nation or its discourse? I just read back through this thread, and almost every argument out there was that "Oh, Mr. Imus isn't as bad as x" where x is Al Sharpton, rap artists, the PC police, the media, whatever. So, let's say for a moment that I don't care about where each one's problems fit on your personal value scale. I don't care whether you think hip-hop artists do worse, whether or not Jesse Jackson's affair is worse, or whether or not this was the worst thing said on the Radio this week (I'm sure Beck, Savage, and a few others top it every 5 minutes). Tell me what positive thing he contributed such that I should be saddened by the loss of his show. Give me something other than the ol "Oh he did it too!" and I'll consider being mad about this. Until then, I will continue to think that in some small way, our nation just was improved. I'm not mad about Don Imus being fired. He did something stupid, and he really got fired because he lost his sponsors. Fine. Goodbye. I'm mad about the "moral superiority complex" displayed by everyone else.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 08:52 PM) He also comes out and says that if Bush vetoes the current funding plan (the one with withdrawal dates), that he is commited to finding the 67 votes in the Senate to override the veto. That's a pretty ballsy statement. We'll see what happens. And it's all BS as well, because he can't. But he's going to "lead the charge" and "put up the good fight" all to make himself look good. I hate politics.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) wow political correctness has completely corrupted our national news media. they basically went on a 3 day long crusade to get some old man fired for saying "nappy headed hoes". it's kinda funny, but also troubling. Congrats, Al and Jesse. You are officially blowhard, hypocritical idiots who screamed so loud, you got your way, and it sure is indeed troubling.

And it's BULLs***. These players weren't scarred for life... but the media sure made them victims. Sometimes, I really hate our country and the sensationalism we are all about. By the way, Imus is now officially fired. QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 08:20 PM) I think there are "leaders" in the black community who do indeed despise the use of not just insulting words, but all the violence in urban music, etc. Many of those leaders, including some I've spoken with, people who lead congregations and local groups, don't make it on TV. Instead, we see Jesse and Al, who shouldn't be role models for anyone. Kind of similar to how we see talking heads "representative" of both political parties (the Rush Limbaughs of the world) come on the TV to take sides on an issue, even though most of us are not at all represented by their views. Again, the media loves the extremes, and the shock value. They also tend to get lazy and call on the same old people over and over again. So, we get Jesse and Al on this one. You're right on with this one.

Who's left (girls) - Jordin, LaKisha, Melinda, Sanjaya,... anyone else? I can't remember. If that's all of them, think about it, I'm sure that they all don't quite get along, if you know what I mean.

Frank Thomas. ZING!

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 12, 2007 -> 04:18 PM) Well, I never said "reverse discrimination" was wrong or invalid, just that I do not agree with it much and think it's the best, which is why his request to explain why it is wrong or invalid confused me, so I stated my point. Now you want me to re-state it? Which part gave you trouble? No, trouble... I misread. My fault.

And that's what Southsider was saying. So your point is, again?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 10:50 PM) And how can I discredit the media when they print something negative and grab all the glory when it's positive. The media is the great enabler.

QUOTE(Brian @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 01:02 AM) I kinda of feel bad for Stern. He has lost everyone around him in the last 8 months. Has to be hard. Hopefully this saga will go away now. Has to be hard my ass... the only reason he was around her was for the inheritance anyway, and he probably could care less about her kid, or Nicole, or the baby. F'in creep.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 02:56 PM) Probably to throttle Soxtalk's bandwidth. That might be why I've been having all these troubles lately.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 01:34 PM) Those are some excellent points. The executive branch and the federal government have gotten far too strong, and the intense focus on it only worsens that problem. You are also correct that Bush has been pushing an idea for Social Security for pretty much his entire administration, while Congress (both versions) have been reluctant to do anything at all. Exactly. The problem with our entire government is it is all about "acting" and "political correctness", and not about governing anymore. How much air time do I get? How much can I make the "other side" irrelevant? Etc. Etc. Etc. It's disgusting, and it's exactly why NOTHING gets done on any level anymore.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 01:36 AM) And where did I say that? I was just pointing out that stating upfront that he has a non-negotiable point is not a bad thnig, but could be a negotiating strategy. I seem to recall Bush 'negotiating' an education bill with Teddy Kennedy, and when Teddy got what he negotiated, he then comes out in the press and slammed Bush for not giving him enough. That's real incentive to negotiate further. exactly. Look, for as much as you want Bush to "negotiate" or "compromise", the Democrats don't WANT to negotiate, they want to make Bush APPEAR just like you're making him out to be.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 12:09 AM) I'm thinking about getting one down the road, but when should I get serious about it? I'm looking for opportunities in the manufacturing industry. It just depends on where you are in your career and how much work you want to put in... it's a lot of work to get this thing done, that's for sure. Everyone says it's worth it, I guess time will tell. QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 01:48 AM) Boo! CONGRATULATIONS, MAN! Seriously. (The boo had to be there. SOMEONE had to pretend to be negative.)

Flaxx, what the hell have you been drinking? NS, for as much hyperbole, etc. that I have in my posts, I have to agree with your points. He hasn't accomplished a hell of a lot. This is one of those things that the "status quo" somewhat needs to be looked at. In some respects, not changing or "doing anything" hasn't been a bad thing. No changes to the tax law, no changes to the war on terror (although the handling and "spinning" of Iraq is dreadfully inadequate), nothing happening on US Soil is not a bad thing... ... ... Immigration is a HUGE disaster waiting to happen, his impotence on doing anything at all with social security is not a good thing, and the continuing COMMUNICATION blunders on just about every subject is terrible. Part of Dubya's problem is he can't articulate anything and comes across just like you've described him, and that's a condescending jackass. Obviously, that's a problem.

yea, just what I need. I got too many letters behind my name, and most of them are cuss letters.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! I'm done, DONE DONE DONE, done done done, with my MBA! I figured I'd share with my filibuster friends.

QUOTE(EvilMisquoter @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 06:08 PM) Dick lurking in the hedges while Bush delivers Isn't that just bassackward?

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 05:23 PM) There is something really creepy about this... ok, I'm game. What?

yea, I saw this a couple of days ago. Good stuff, and sad, all at the same time.

So Nancy is responsible? Wow... she should be PRESIDENT! Oh, what will Hillary say!?!?!?

I'm SHOCKED that Pelosi's major fubar on saying Isreal was ready for peace talks with Syria hasn't been mentioned. Now this is where Nancy should have STFU. And this is why she's dangerous as hell, because she's going off on her own agenda.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 5, 2007 -> 02:27 PM) More of a universal comment. I should have picked a better thread to drop that in. You headhunting Bushwhacker!

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 5, 2007 -> 02:06 PM) Has Bush done anything wrong during his administration? I agree he gets blamed for too much stuff, every President does, but as soon as anyone dares to criticize Dubya, you pull out the b.s. or pull into Hyperbole Drive. Read the damn thread. Although the first post shoulda been in green, and I think Balta caught on, but you didn't, obviously. Are you Dubya's fault?