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QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 07:37 PM) County Judge is where it's at. Judges hold a LOT of power in this state.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 11:48 PM) I very much enjoyed seeing this news story the other day. Me too. Slimebag. The funny thing is there are a lot of people that think the way he does. Yikes.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) Can you pre-order it for that much? That is a steal. It is not on their website yet though. ^^^^ Let us know, and like quick.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 07:50 PM) Chomsky has a definitely interesting point of view, but I think that oil is only part of the equation as well. I think Chomsky, master linguist that he might be, didn't fully say that as well. Perhaps because he sees a coming resource war and control of resources = power. That's part of it. I don't have time to say much more until later.

I need some crack. Then maybe I'd get it.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) Not necessarily, I love talking about this stuff and could go on for hours if called for. It's never been called for so far What I meant was, since I don't believe in the devil, it wouldn't therefore compute that a devil would have used myths or folklore to mislead us from going down the proper road. I believe the devil was created because sometimes the promise of lots of good things for good people isn't motivation enough. Some people need to have something behind the "or else," if you catch my drift. W & O, since you're actually reasonable compared to Anthramoron, I'd like to keep reading your thoughts. I can't come back with much yet until I really read it. I'll try to, though.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 06:51 PM) Here is at least one race where Independents will have a big say. The Texas Governor race will see Gov. Perry ® (Tex likes: Kap doesn't) a yet to be determined DEM, Strayhorn (a Rep turned Indy), and Kinky Friedman another Independant. Strayhorn, has won statewide office and is clearly a threat. She has some great fundraising skills, and Texas doesn't seem to have a problem electing ladies to statewide offices. The biggest issue facing the Indie candidates is getting on the ballot. If a voter signs either petition they are not allowed to vote in the primary for either party. If they do vote, it would void their petition. So, as always, getting on the ballot is the first and biggest hurdle facing Independent candidates. To win that hurdle, comes the second biggest hurdle, raising enough money to mount a succesful campaign. You know, really, the governor of Texas holds little power compared to some states.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 11, 2006 -> 11:28 PM) Titanic & Clinton Book Study Class Students were assigned to read 2 books, "Titanic" & "My Life" by Bill Clinton. One student turned in the following book report, with the proposition that they were nearly identical stories! His professor gave him an A+ for this report: Titanic:..... $29.99 Clinton:..... $29.99 Titanic:..... Over 3 hours to read Clinton:..... Over 3 hours to read Titanic:..... The story of Jack and Rose, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe. Clinton:..... The story of Bill and Monica, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe. Titanic:..... Jack is a starving artist. Clinton:..... Bill is a bulls*** artist. Titanic:..... In one scene, Jack enjoys a good cigar. Clinton:..... Ditto for Bill. Titanic:..... During ordeal, Rose's dress gets ruined. Clinton:..... Ditto for Monica. Titanic:..... Jack teaches Rose to spit. Clinton:..... Let's not go there. Titanic:..... Rose gets to keep her jewelry. Clinton:..... Monica's forced to return her gifts. Titanic:..... Rose remembers Jack for the rest of her life. Clinton:..... Clinton doesn't remember Jack. Titanic:..... Rose goes down on a vessel full of seamen. Clinton:..... Monica..., let's not go there, either. Titanic:..... Jack surrenders to an icy death. Clinton:..... Bill goes home to Hilary...basically the same thing. Yea, it's a joke, but it's also beneath some folks.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 05:11 PM) I worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Is that why Stewie's flying?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 06:17 PM) I guess, but why not go the same route with gay marriage if they really ever intended for it to get anywhere? Because it's all a ploy to stir up their respective bases, nothing more, and nothing less.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 05:48 PM) Nope. Right now it seems like the guy's probably done something pretty bad, although the details haven't leaked out yet. It might be worth noting however, that the guy who plea-bargained out was at one point President of a company that has done a large amount of work for DOD and the White House, including the IT Infrastructure for Bush's 2nd inaugural and the G8 summit last year. As Josh Marshall says though, if this guy didn't exist, the Republicans would have to invent him. Unf***ing real. Of COURSE BUSH IS BEHIND THIS TOO!!! You are so f***ing jaded, it's pathetic.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 06:16 PM) The business of politics breeds the same kinds of mis-deeds from both sides of the aisle. If we are trying somehow to place one party on higher moral ground based on the ethical lapses of their members, we will never resolve it. For every low life Dem there is a equally low life Rep. All we have to do is have a memory long enough to look back past the current scandel de jour. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN! Someone finally gets it. Tex, next beer's on me.

Daaayum, Anthrax is getting pwned more ways then I've seen in a long time even in this forum, and coming back for more. ROTFLMAO.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 06:06 PM) Laike Balta said, there is no reason to think it would be left up to the states for very long. If the powers that be are willing to consider a constitutional ban on gay marriage then or course a constitutional ban on abortion would be dearer still to the anti-abortion powers. And that insenses me. Assholes. STAY OUT OF IT. There's my lib view of the day.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) I haven't seen how it is selling actually. I think there is a lot more he covers in the book, including some more on the Siebel Edmonds story. Hopefully it sells well. All smart-assisms aside, I think it sold 8,000+ copies in the first week. As much as it got plugged on the front page of the NY Slimes, I would have thought it would have done much better.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 05:44 PM) My statement may have been oversimplified a bit, but I do believe that the majority of the bible is either "Titanic" meaning a completely fictional story is created around a few hostoric facts, or borrowed from other cultures/religions. For example, take the story of the last supper. In Norse mythology, the story of the death of the god balder is summarized here: The Norse demigod, Loki, an evil and mischievous being, was not invited to join 12 other gods at a banquet at Valhalla, the great banquet hall of Norse gods. Angered by the slight, he showed up anyway (like Judas, the unwelcome 13th guest), and during what was supposed to be a harmless game, caused the death of Balder, the god of light, joy, purity, beauty, innocence, and reconciliation Another example-- the Epic of Gilgamesh(predating the bible by hundreds or thousands of years) contains a "great flood" story. A third --Take the similarities between christianity and mithraism, which was a religion that again predates christianity and had a decent following in the roman empire right up to christianity's emergence: “The resemblances between the two churches were so striking as to impress even the minds of antiquity” (Cumont, 193). From their common Zoroastrian sources, Mithraism first held that all souls pre-existed in the ethereal regions, and inhabited a body upon birth. Life then becomes a great struggle between good and evil, spirit and body, the children of light versus the children of darkness (identical to Pythagoreanism). All souls were to be judged by Mithra (represented as a bull) with the Elect going to heaven, and the earthly and evil being annihilated in a great battle. Mithraism divided the human race into three classes: the spiritual Elect, the wicked, and those who try to be good but can't seem to overcome evil. The Elect go straight to heaven, while the good-intentioned wait until judgment to be resurrected, where the wicked will be destroyed. Both Christianity and Mithraism prided themselves in brotherhood and organized their members as church congregations. Both religions purified themselves through baptism, and each participated in the same type of sacrament, bread and wine. Mithra was born in a cave; a cave is likewise the setting for the nativity of Jesus in the widely-read and influential Gospel of James, which though not canonical is the earliest surviving document attesting the veneration of Mary and claiming her continuing virginity. Both nativities were celebrated on December 25th, and each savior was visited by shepherds with gifts. Both Mithraism and Christianity considered Sunday their holy day, despite early Christianity observing the Jewish Sabbath for centuries. Many have noted that the title of Pope is found in Mithraic doctrine and seemingly prohibited in Christian doctrine. The words Peter (rock) and mass (sacrament) have original significance in Mithraism. Both Mithraism and early Christianity considered abstinence, celibacy, and self-control to be among their highest virtues. Both had similar beliefs about the world, destiny, heaven and hell, and the immortality of the soul. Their conceptions of the battles between good and evil were almost identical, with Christianity adopting millennial epochs that were integral to Mithraism from Zoroastrianism. “They both admitted to the existence of a heaven inhabited by beautiful ones…and a hell peopled by demons situate in the bowels of earth.” (Cumont, 191) Both religions placed a flood at the beginning of history, and both believed in revelation as key to their doctrine. Both awaited the last judgment and resurrection of the dead after the final conflagration of the world. Christ and Mithra were both referred to directly as the "Logos" (Larson 184). I truly believe that anyone that waves these aside as pure coincidence is just wearing blinders. The bible is chock full of things like this, and if the bible isn't even original, then how could it possibly be the word of god? If all these stories are myths and legends, then how can any of it be taken to heart? Thanks. I'll have to re-read this a couple of times to think about it some more before I comment. I appreciate your input.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 05:17 PM) Gosh, don't be such an anti-semite.

This from MSNBC's First Read I'm sure this is some misunderstanding though.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 04:39 PM) I must stop being so predictable. Become a lib. That will show them.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 04:47 PM) See, I agree with with most of what you're saying here, but it's the way that you phrase it that rubs people the wrong way. You can't take the actions of some people and say that it speaks for the belief system as a whole(although I'm on the same side as you on the issue), and then pose it as indisputable fact that the whole belief system is a crock. There will hopefully one day be found indisputable proof that the whole of the bible was simply made up, thus rendering most religions null and void, but until that day comes, you sound like an arrogant jerk. I'd like some insight as to why you think the Bible was entirely made up. Not trying to argue, just trying to understand your point of view.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 04:40 PM) And let me add .... :finger :finger :finger :finger :finger :finger :finger :finger

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 04:44 PM) Something is wrong there. That last graf is loaded with grammatical errors and strident conjecture. I think it was part of Chomsky's quote, though it seems a little weird, even for him. That's why I asked... it didn't fit with the rest of the article. It was weird.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 04:41 PM) I added nothing. Straight cut and paste. Perhaps I should edit and add to previous paragraph? Just clarifying. Thanks. (That really wasn't meant as a slight... )

And a comment on the article - part of his whole premise is flawed, IMO. We are there for oil... partially true. But I think we're there more for having a thumb in the middle east to launch intelligence missions and the like, some of which we will never even fathom. Quite frankly, it does make sense. You have to be where things are happening to get a truer sense of what is going on. We were not really able to have that presence after Saudi Arabia decided we shouldn't be there. I know we're in UAE, but Iraq is dead center of it all. Also, we were itching for a "war" for economic reasons as well, which people sometimes forget. Let's take out the spending on the war IN THIS COUNTRY and see where we are economically. That would be an interesting stat. That's not the right reason to go to war, but I also think that's a part of it was to gain more "market share" in the middle east. The problem is, they don't really want us to dump our crap there. More later.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 04:03 PM) Hooters wings and beer is not a church! That was a good one. The door was left wiiiiiide open. The one thing that is lacking is an in depth study, which I plan to try to help rectify soon.