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QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 02:44 PM) Actually, they have said stop the program and get the warrants. I think that was the whole point from the beginning. If we're fighting to protect freedom and the rule of law, why is it acceptable to throw out both in the name of themselves? The way I view this is, if you're a murderer, you lost your rights. If you're on the phone with these bastards, you've lost your rights. I know that there's all these witch hunt stories about how the Bush administration is using this for "HIS" political gain, which I think is pure bull s*** propaganda and unfounded, but makes a great story for the liberals to run around and scream "MY RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED..." but again, if you are in this mess, it's probably for a pretty good reason, not a witch hunt like you all suggest. Time will tell, I guess. In a way, I wish the Dems would grow some balls and bring it to a vote if they're serious (oh, I'm sure they can't because they are the minority, :rolly). Bring up the charges. Impeach the f***er. Let's get it on and over with. It won't happen, again, because no one is saying STOP it, they're just fanning the spew through the fan blades to see what's going to stick so they can run around trying to say "anything but Bush"... instead of coming up with REAL ideas about how we move forward as a country to defeat terrorism.

Damn. Steff, Jim, and all involved... my very heartfelt condolonces. He sure did put up one hell of a fight. And now, he's at peace.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 10:03 AM) Anybody correct me if I am wrong but if some residents are still paying for their homes (i.e. had a mortgage or whatever before Katrina), would they still have to pay if the house was razed? That is one of the huge issues facing these people. I think you're right. Since FLOODING is what destroyed these homes, and not the hurricane itself, I think most folks did not have flood insurance, although it was one of the most flood prone areas of the country. Nonetheless, a nice bulldozer is what this area has needed for years. New Orleans is nothing less then a cesspool of crap anyway... it's better off moved. Having said that, if I lived all my life there and that's all I knew, it would be a very very difficult thing to face.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 06:20 AM) Amazing how much racism and hatred there is among fellow soxtalkers. Are you serious?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 05:09 AM) Well, I see the current NSA director thinks it's legal. Shocking. Other than that, though, you're not exactly tripping over all the legal and constitutional experts that have sided with BushCo on this one are you? The Congressional Research Service IS non-partison. If you read the piece you saw it said what we basically already know - namely that the presidential authority to order this surveilance can not reasonably be said to derive from statute. And it concludes again what we basically know - that the sole Bush argument is that the power derives from the "whereas" clause in the 9/18 Congressional Resolution and it's 'any and all reasobable and necessary means' or whatever the exact statement is. The Research Service says that some courts might accept this argument, although the historic role Comgress has played in overseeing and shaping surveilance policy strongly suggests that Congress would not likely have all of a sudden decided it would cede all responisbilities in that regard to the executive. And the fact that the BushCo argument all hinges on the "whereas" clause and not the "resolving" clause ('It is hereby resolved that. . .' ) is still really squirrely (sp?) It's fairly well accepted tthat the whereas statements are the tone-setters, but the resolving clauses are where the teeth usually reside. The truth remains that the administration doesn't care that they do not have the authority to do what they are doing. It only concerns those of us in the "reality-based community," as the administtration has scornfully described those of us who feel the need to be bothered by trifflinng matters like the law and the Constitution. So the only people that are in "the right" are the ones who side with you, and you're the only "reality-based community"? I still say Congress doesn't have the power, nor do the courts, to stop it according to the Constitution. Now if Congress wanted to pull the money out of the NSA, that's another thing. Why is it that I have heard no one say STOP THE PROGRAM, just a bunch of witch-hunting bulls*** from the Democrat leadership?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 02:26 AM) The Non-Partisan Congressional Research Service has issued a report saying that Bush's program "Does not seem to be well-grounded" in the law as the administration has suggested. Of course not. Anything you will be looking for would never substantiate ANY reason that this could be legal.... "non-partisan" Congressional Research Service? CONGRESSIONAL... anyway... next...

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. But, I'm sure someone will come up with some f***ed up link about how this was staged by the Bush cronies. /waiting

I still say he's an asscrack.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) He's Bush's fault too.

If you want to be technical... the 1,000,000th post award goes to....... MREYE!!!! I hear ya. They're amazing, huh? Post ID = 1,000,000 on December 27th at 2:02 in the afternoon Central time. Now if you take out the deleted posts, we'll have a second 1,000,000th post.

Well, TECHNICALLY, we're at post # 1,007,903. But who's counting? You want me to find who REALLY had post 1,000,000?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 05:44 PM) The December monthly job creation totals are in...108,000 new jobs. Predictions were for roughly 200,000 jobs in December. This is quite a bit less than what is usually taken as the number of jobs needed to keep up with population growth. However, the number for November was revised significantly upward in this report. As I pointed out a few days ago, there's quite a few caveats to be taken with this data...the numbers for winter months are heavily seasonally adjusted to try to look at core job growth - they expect a significant number of temporary hires in November and December and layoffs of those temporary workers in January. So, This could very well be an artifact of people being more cautious during the holiday season and not hiring as many temporary workers, or it could be an artifact of them hiring more temporary workers earlier (which would push the November number higher). Either way, I think the usual rule I've seen with these XMas season numbers is this...if the temporary job growth in the pre-christmas months disappoints, it will usually make the job number look better in January, because there will be less total layoffs (due to less people having been hired in the first place). Either way, at least there's still growth, even though the growth still is sluggish. The real question though...is how these reports play into the federal reserve's decision on when to stop raising interest rates. That, at this point, is anyone's guess. And nowhere did you say anything about the jobless number from November being revised UPWARD by 90K, either, which results in a net effect of how many jobs they thought were going to be there are there any way - and the resulting umemployment rate down to 4.9%. Keep picking...

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 04:02 PM) Are you serious? ALL telephone communications are regulated by the FCC, leaving you no other options, and all communications could be monitored by surveillance equipment. There is no choice there. Taking the subway, on the other hand, is an actual choice. You could take a bus, or a surface train, a car, a cab, walk, bike... and not get searched! Listening in on your communications of any kind without a warrant is no different than someone searching your belongings without one. This has probably already been said, but having a phone is a CHOICE too.

And it's SICK that people do this. This has been my point on here for months. Did you pass gas today? Well, that's Bush's fault. (bean subsidies) Did you get a paper cut? Damn, Bush. (stupid paper regulations are too thin) Dookie get clogged in the toilet? Bush. (damn toilet executive orders) It amazes me how everything bad is this man's fault, yet anything good at all, someone else did it... it HAS to be.

There's a nice warm place waiting for asscracks like this.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 07:20 PM) Past decisions do not guarantee future actions. Your mileage may vary, Please see local dealers for more details. Void were prohibited. The opinions expressed here are not the opinion of soxtalk.com, it's advertisers, or possibly even me in the next five minutes. LMFAO!!

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 03:59 PM) That doesn't solve anything; you're paying for 8 and only getting what, 7 1/2 tops?! As a side, has anyone else noticed that a cheeseburger costs 99 cents at McDonalds but a double costs a dollar? The logic of this operation is far beyond my comprehension. Spiff, you're the greatest.

I see that this forum is going to become a cesspool of crap now. No offense, PA... but why start a thread specifically just to start crap? As has been stated in a couple of other threads, we'll have to figure out how we want the events of the last two days to shape this forum. Until then, let's at least not bait people.

Well, the state of Texas will be in a good ass mood today!!!

QUOTE(JoeBatterz @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 12:10 AM) Down here you better bow your head and genuflect while saying 10 Hail Peytons when mentioning Manning's name. :puke Way off topic, but Joe, you get to any Predator games? That is, if you're from Nashville, TN.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 10:28 PM) The only tough part for me is when I stop and think about all the different kinds of animal meat in my stomach at once. Beef, pork, lamb, some places have even expanded the menu to include chicken and some fish. At that point, it's pretty much a carcass fest in your stomach. Enjoy. Good s*** - nice and smelly.

The more that's coming out... I think Sharon is done forever with Isreali leadership. Things are going to get dicey now over there.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 08:56 PM) :finger :finger :finger I had my first child when I was 17. My wife (we weren't married at the time) and I lived with my parents and did receive some public aid. Mostly WIC to help with the baby formula, milk, cereal, ect... Today I have three kids, a house of my own, a college education and a career. Hell, I had half of that before I turned 21. The government has no right to tell me my 2nd two kids shouldn't have been born just because I asked for a little assitance with my first one. I'm glad the system worked for you - and I wish it was more that way. Unfortunately, more often then not, people take advantage of it.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 09:04 PM) Well I've had Fogo and Sal & Carvao and thought they were both pretty comparable. I still say Finley's in Downers Grove will hook those of you that try it!!! Fogo's pretty damn good - garlic sirloin... yuummmm... Dallas has a ton of totally kick ass steak houses.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 09:00 PM) I'll take plain old Applebee's Sirloin steak any day of the week, month, year, centure, millenium... LMFAO! I know - you haven't been out much... and that's cool... but dude, someone's got to get you out to a real steak joint.