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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 04:12 PM) This. Hopefully not in Granderson. +1 I'd like to see them trade to get some hitters in here.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 04:21 PM) It's reading into an extremely short quote. From what I gather, he's not allowed to like it here. Oh yeah, bigtime clubhouse cancer. Awful person. Last year, funny how we werent reading into cryptic quotes when he was giving us 100 points higher OPS He lollygags it a lot. He's a decent player, but we need to change-over this roster. He's one of the few others who have value along with De Aza (whom people were also screaming to trade, despite decent numbers), and Alexei and Lindstrom. There is a reason people weren't screaming to trade Flowers and Veal...no one wants them. I think poor coaching is a big problem on this team (I know- this board loves the work of Ventura and Baines so I'm ducking) and I hope that an experienced professional staff is brought in here....at least someone who's been in the dugout recently.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:33 AM) I haven't seen anything yet either. They sent down an OF when they called up Rienzo, so my guess is that they bring an OF back up to replace Peavy. Danks would be my guess. EDIT: Oh yeah, just saw the post above. If Wise is ready to come off the DL, then he's the one who will get that spot. Wise? That would be asinine to bring back a 35 year old with a career obp of .267. The Sox love of horrible veterans is part of the problem.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:25 PM) Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 18m Rios on not being moved at deadline: "I'm cool staying here. I like this place." yea, no pressure. do what he wants. Just how he likes it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:57 PM) I keep saying this, but Granderson being the CF for the Sox next year seems very possible to me. Hitters coming into their prime, please. Do we really want to sign up another LT deal with one of these guys in their 30s who's had injury issues and who is more likely to decline than to hold serve or improve? My suggestion would be to move a young pitcher for some young position talent. We can develop pitchers...the organization is woeful at developing hitters. Hahn did okay I guess. But he just moved our producers, and wasn't able to move the guys who were really eating payroll and needed to be moved.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:53 PM) We desperately need a CFer so De Aza can be a very good left fielder. That would be huge. De Aza doesn't have the offense to play left. Yea, he's passable when we rebuild, but when your corners have no power, your deficient.

Reed's a relief pitcher. If you can get a dynamic shortstop prospect for him, consider it. And the reality is that our farm is much more adept at developing pitchers than hitters. Deal from strength.

Well it's now up to these coaches and to Garcia into turning him into an impact major league hitter. This coaching staff hasn't shown the ability to do that...so far.

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:50 AM) The whole Rangers organization retiring wouldn't make Dunn attractive to Texas. Phil Rogers just said on MLB TV that Adam Dunn would be very attractive to Texas. LOL

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:27 AM) From what I read, anybody who appeals their suspension faces a punishment of double the original suspension length, so it might not make sense to appeal. NO it wouldn't. Dunn would be an upgrade for Texas. Dreaming, I know.

We should be getting a break here with teams like Seattle, KC, Minny, Colorado, not being overt sellers and flooding the market. I hope we can get some moves made.

The Nellie Cruz thing is tricky. He's a FA after this year, so he goes into free agency off of a 50 game suspension. Alternatively, he could appeal the suspension for this season, serve it next year, but he'll have no contract. If the Rangers like him, I would think they could extend him at a bargain and then tell him to appeal the suspension this year, essentially pushing their short term problem to next year.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:09 AM) Selling high, and the Sox are starting to produce some middle infielders--Micah Johnson and Marcus Semien are getting closer to legit prospects. Okay - if we do indeed sell high.

Why would we trade Beckham? He's finally showing something offensively.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:00 PM) I think it had more to do with Brantley (lefty) pinch hitting, Bourn (lefty) on deck, Swisher in the hole (switch), Kipnis (lefty) after that and Cabrera (switch) after that. Okay, well last night, Nate Jones, who has pitched once in the last week and is clearly our 2nd to best reliever. doesn't come out to take the 8th inning. INstead, Ventura uses Lindstrom. What's the explanation for that? Now it could be Ventura being Ventura. But that decision seems so dense, that it might suggest a showcase (that didn't work).

MLB network says Braves need backup infielder.....it's Keppinger Time!!!!!

If he can hit some of those rope line drives that low LF wall should be to his liking. Frank used to hit those...heck he'd hit them with one hand (and no I'm not comparing him to Frank)

Nate Jones is our 2nd to best relief pitcher. He has pitched once in the last week. Why wasn't he used in the 8th?

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 10:03 AM) I would say he probably couldn't be much better than average and there is some chance that he is bad at SS. I'm okay with that, though, if it makes room for a good 2B. I'd just assume bring up Semien, really If we are bad at SS, it needs to be bad at hitting. They've got to be able to field. If we can fix the defense while we rebuild, we'll be respectable. Beckham's a good 2b...and 3B from what I saw a couple of years ago.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:49 AM) Beckham moves to short. Anyone can play LF. Would he be a good defensive shortstop? We need that.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:55 AM) How sad would that be? The Blue Jays dump him on us for nothing. The White Sox could potentially do the same. If I'm Pittsburgh, I am not doing that. That is wayyy too much money for their them to take on. If they want him at a much lower cost, they will make a deal with the Sox this afternoon. I'm calling it now, if the Sox don't trade him today, he will be with us the rest of the year and perhaps maybe even next year as well This can get messy as he will block any chance of Garcia being out there. We could pick some money up and take back a C prospect just to get rid of him. I would think we could get a B now, if we'd pick some money up and if, obviously, someone wanted Rios. Of course we could have done better yesterday if we'd been more flexible with the money. Hopefully the reason we weren't is so that we could be with Rios and Ramirez, but that's a hope, with nothing to base it on.

Rios could be dumped through a waiver deal. But that's all it would be.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:35 AM) Premature evaluation...? He at least deserves the next 2 months of observation before drawing ANY conclusions, and, even then...remember how we all felt based on 2012 that Tyler would be at least average/above-average defensively? Well, that didn't work out quite so well. Well it is premature. And we have to see if he can hit. But if he can, catchers have moved to other positions fairly often. And Flowers should be able to catch balls better than he has - he drank the same cool aid I guess that the rest of these defenders did. But in the meantime, we need catcher and CF who can at least field their position next year. We can be respectable even with spotty hitting. Our defense and bullpen turned us into terrible this year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:33 AM) WTF? You think he's a good catcher?

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 08:15 AM) CF- De Aza C- Phegley A big problem this year has been poor up the middle defense It needs to change. Phegley probably needs to learn a new position