PolishPrince34 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Love that Rangers and Arizona are involved. Love their farm systems. Been hearing they been throwing aroundTyler Skaggs name to headline a deal. Would love to get him. Edited June 30, 2013 by PolishPrince34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 If the Sox make a major deal with Arizona, I'd be shocked if Chris Owings isn't the main piece in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I've seen the Rangers minor league system in action. At AAA Round Rock Profar was the show....Olt was terrible. I do like Perez but otherwise not much impressed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 A lot of teams I think are interested in Rios. Drive up that price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I don't like Skaggs or Owings. I hope Hahn targets guys that are dominating their leagues instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 07:30 PM) I don't like Skaggs or Owings. I hope Hahn targets guys that are dominating their leagues instead. You might be the only person I know that doesn't like a 21 year old lefty with 3 quality pitches that's already got a taste in the majors. Not too many of those players exist. Edited July 1, 2013 by PolishPrince34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 same organization that got rid of Bauer for close to nothing. Â maybe we can fool them into giving us both skaggs and owings LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Screw that. I want Holmberg back! Â /kiddingnotkidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 At first I thought people were hoping to trade for Micah Owings. (Maybe if they get rid of the DH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 07:59 PM) Screw that. I want Holmberg back! /kiddingnotkidding  I actually wouldn't mind that happening, as long as he isnt the center piece lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I hear Pirates are in as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The more teams, the better. And Rick better be asking for the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 So I'm sitting at work a phone rings, the caller ID displays: Hahn, R Â I pickup and a gentleman says he's having trouble with his AT&T password. (It was a wrong number). Take this FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 08:37 PM) So I'm sitting at work a phone rings, the caller ID displays: Hahn, R Â I pickup and a gentleman says he's having trouble with his AT&T password. (It was a wrong number). Take this FWIW. Â Your password is "TRADEEVERYONE" in all caps. Thanks Mr Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 08:37 PM) So I'm sitting at work a phone rings, the caller ID displays: Hahn, R Â I pickup and a gentleman says he's having trouble with his AT&T password. (It was a wrong number). Take this FWIW. Â must be trying to find Moneyball on-demand to learn some moves from brad pitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Sox Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 06:42 PM) Love that Rangers and Arizona are involved. Love their farm systems. Been hearing they been throwing aroundTyler Skaggs name to headline a deal. Would love to get him. Skaggs yes, owing s...not so much. Though he is raking at an age-appropriate level his bb/k rate is downright Hawkinsish. We have enough guys who don't know the strike zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 what about Matt Davidson 3B? Â http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t...&pid=571602 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I can't believe so many teams want Rios. I hope he's the first dealt. Never been a Rios fan. Don't like his game. Don't like his style. Just get a fair offer and deal him, Hahn. Why wait any longer?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 09:41 PM) I can't believe so many teams want Rios. I hope he's the first dealt. Never been a Rios fan. Don't like his game. Don't like his style. Just get a fair offer and deal him, Hahn. Why wait any longer?? Â Completely agree. If we can get a top 100 prospect for him, I will personally help him pack his bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 Tyler Skaggs is a Top 15 prospect in every publication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 09:41 PM) I can't believe so many teams want Rios. I hope he's the first dealt. Never been a Rios fan. Don't like his game. Don't like his style. Just get a fair offer and deal him, Hahn. Why wait any longer?? How could you not like "his game" when it includes good average, good power, good speed, average defense in center, above average defense in right and a good person in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 09:41 PM) I can't believe so many teams want Rios. I hope he's the first dealt. Never been a Rios fan. Don't like his game. Don't like his style. Just get a fair offer and deal him, Hahn. Why wait any longer?? How could you not like "his game" when it includes good average, good power, good speed, average defense in center, above average defense in right and a good person in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 09:12 PM) Skaggs yes, owing s...not so much. Though he is raking at an age-appropriate level his bb/k rate is downright Hawkinsish. We have enough guys who don't know the strike zone. Â Â My point too. Minor league pitchers strike him out like crazy. Lets not target any more of these guys. Â Tyler Skaggs gives up a hit per inning in the minors and walks plenty of guys. Basically he's not that tough to pick up. Major leaguers have crushed him it looks like. Â Erik Johnson looks way more polished to me and he's not in any top 15 or whatever. Â What makes Skaggs such am elite prospect if his stats don't back it up? Â Basically I'm a huge fan of WHIP when evaluating milb pitchers. Are guys picking him up or not. Edited July 1, 2013 by Jerksticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 PCL stats are tough to use to judge a player's ability. He has to be one of the best young players in the majors that could be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 30, 2013 -> 10:16 PM) My point too. Minor league pitchers strike him out like crazy. Lets not target any more of these guys. Â Tyler Skaggs gives up a hit per inning in the minors and walks plenty of guys. Basically he's not that tough to pick up. Major leaguers have crushed him it looks like. Â Erik Johnson looks way more polished to me and he's not in any top 15 or whatever. Â What makes Skaggs such am elite prospect if his stats don't back it up? Â Basically I'm a huge fan of WHIP when evaluating milb pitchers. Are guys picking him up or not. Tyler Skaggs is a 21 year old lefty who throws 3 plus pitches. His fastball is thrown in the low 90s and could be brought up to 94-95 at times. Fastball command is area he needs to continue grow. Just like your man Erik Johnson who I'm also a big fan, but is no where near the elite prospect to Skaggs. Skaggs best pitch is his curveball. Is rated the #1 curveball by any lefty in the minors. Barry Zito like curve when in his prime. Skaggs third plus pitch is his changeup that has late fade movement, but doesn't always throw with that fade movement on a consistent basis. Scout have him right now pegged as #2 or #3 starter as of right now. Has a chance to become a #1 and a very strong #2 when improves his fastball command. His body 6ft 5/195 can add some future weight which can possibly improve increasing his fastball and stamina throught the late innings. I would love to get him, but I would be shocked if we can get Skaggs for Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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