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This isn't rumored, but what about sending Garland to Boston for Andy Marte. Ride out Crede for this year, maybe use him for a trade at the deadline, and possibly deal Fields as well. It certainly makes Boston even stiffer competition, but could also make us solid at third for several years to come.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:49 PM) Encarnacion is pretty horrible. Don't just look at his numbers from last season. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/ml...3845&statType=1 He's pretty much a fourth outfielder. This is a worse signing than Jock Jones. Those numbers aren't that bad. He plays a good outfield, and his power should go up being away from Pro Player stadium.

QUOTE(whitesox1976 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 03:56 PM) You got that right. With the record he had, our White Sox would be in deep trouble. I remember some bad pitchers the Sox had over the years. After winning the World Series, I would prefer to keep lousy pitchers a thing of the past! He said he finally feels healthy. It's certainly possible his poor performances the last 2 years were majorly contributed by this. Will he be lights out, probably not. However, maybe converting him to a reliever will help his cause. It has worked for many before. As stated numerous times throughout this thread, no risk. Take a shot, and see what comes of it.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:47 PM) Houston's an interesting one. You just think Tim Purpura is going to do something big down there. They missed out on Rondell White, and they could either trade for a big time SP like Jon Garland or trade for an OF like Bobby Abreu. And the Astros do have some good bullpen arms. Chad Qualls and Dan Wheeler would both make excellent fits in our pen. Absolutely, and with Clemens not coming back (probably anyway), they have some money to spend, and a pitching vacancy that Garland would fill nicely.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) The 4 teams I know are interested in Jon are Houston, Texas, LA Angels and LA Dodgers. What out of those teams has the most to offer as far as bullpen help? Good bye Jon G! We stuck with you- now you are going to get paid somewhere else. Houston and both LA teams have some pretty good pen arms, but I'm not sure what could or would be given up. The Dodgers are our best I think, as they do have some quality prospect pitching depth to throw in.

QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) Right, forget about Wilkerson, he is indeed a Boras client. I think one of those pitching prospects is too, not sure. I think Wilkerson would be more of a stop gap than our long term CF anyway. It would allow Anderson to ease into the lineup as a 4th outfielder, while getting a few hundred at bats. Also allows Iguchi to be moved down in the order. Uribe is an option, but Wilkerson would be more ideal. I think the fact that he is a Boras client is a non issue, as Anderson/Owens would be taking over CF full time in 07 regardless. A prime pitching prospect would probably prove to be better, but Texas will no doubtedly have reservations about this. More so than parting with Wilkerson, who could help more in 06.

Isn't there talk about Wilkerson? I'm all for giving Anderson his shot, but Wilkerson would be a good #2 hitter.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 02:11 AM) Did he say they were discussing it or did he just say it made sense? Cause he just threw it out there on sc saying it would make sense. cbssportsline rumor mill said Blalock would be the front part of a package. KW would probably need a pitching spect to go along with this.

QUOTE(GasHeGone @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:50 PM) Someone at ChicagoSports.com is talking about some deal brewing down in Dallas...Blalock, Wilkerson and a prospect for Crede, Garland? Anyone got any dirt on this? Wow, if true, talk about another offseason shake up.

QUOTE(GasHeGone @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 03:13 AM) My pet peeve: People who want in-demand players for below-the-Mendoza-line scrubs (ie - Vazquez for Chris Young and Fields. Are you serious?) Do we need 7 starters?

Not much would get me to give up McCarthy. Crawford would be a really good addition though. I'd be willing to deal Fields and some other propsects, but can't part with McCarthy.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 06:39 PM) As much as I want to try and deal Garland.. No thanks to Zito, IMO he is going to the NL.. besides..remember the last time we traded for a pitcher with the A's..That worked out well huh? Garland should be dealt at the winter meetings, as stated in a thread I started give garland our best offer, if he says no then bye bye.. His stock is very high right now sell now. BTW, I love Garland.. I assume you are referring to Koch, but we ended up with Cotts as well, which turned out pretty well. We just had to wait a little.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) Not going to happen. Garland will make a very reasonable amount this yr, through arb. What happens to Jon in 2007 depends on his performance this yr. If he does well [another year like 2005] I expect he'll be signed to a long term deal, along the lines of what other young, dependable SP's are making [Think Carl Pavano money--4 yr, $40 mill] It might make him the highest paid SP on the team. But the market is the market So the sox might have to overpay, like they did with PK. But paying for a workhorse who can throw 200 innings every yr is worth it. If Jon goes back to his 2004 numbers, all bets are off. I don't know that you sign Garland to a 4 year $40million dollar deal. Depending how McCarthy fairs this year, there may be room for another rookie starter to make a debut. If Garland tests the FA market, which I suspect he will, I'm pretty sure he'll walk. We'll get picks for him.

Wait, I'm confused. Are we saying Jabroni>Mueller? Lol.

QUOTE(timotime @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) no, i think flash gordon, kyle farnsworth, and bj ryan all tie for that honor BJ Ryan for sure, I don't think the other two were completely out of the questions. Although Gordon's contract wasn't ideal, they were forced to offer him a third year. The first two years, money wise isn't all that bad, especially considering what the other closers received. Farnsworth is a risk, but he has talent, and again, the Yankees were forced to make the move. Besides, Yankee money can't really be compared to the rest of the league. Anyone signng there automatically will want the best offer they can receive, and often they get it.

We can get picks if he leaves next year, right?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 01:38 AM) add anderson to the deal and you might, might, be in the ballpark. Probably not Marte straight up, but I doubt it would take Anderson. At least we wouldn't do it anyway.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 02:24 PM) Walker might keep a spot as a pinch hitter/spot starter, but a defensive specialist? I'd doubt it. He's better defensively than he gets credit for, but I wouldn't label him a late-inning defensive guy. His range is adequate at best, and he is just OK at turning the DP. His hands are pretty good, but I'd say he's always around more for his bat than his glove. Actually, he sucks at turning DP's.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 01:59 AM) Hahn said that it was a priority after getting PK signed. Inferred that it was from the outside. He also said the #2 hitter didn't have to have speed. That sounds like Mueller.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 26, 2005 -> 07:29 PM) This is one of the most outrageous claims I've seen in awhile. I hope they meant offensively, but even so... D Lee is a great glove, and Furcal is very good, but Soriano and Rameriz don't qualify this claim.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 25, 2005 -> 07:03 PM) A bigger question mark with Crede is his agent. Boras and the Sox do not have a smooth working relationship. Regardless of Crede's success, he will be hard to sign to another contract. The team should start planning now for his replacement. essentially they have with Fields.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 07:38 PM) From a stats comparison, Pierre did only have 45 K's in 656 AB's which is really good. Compare that to 116 out of 578 AB's for Rowand. Other stats: SB's - Pierre 57, Rowand 16 HR's - Rowand 13, Pierre 2 3B's - Pierre 13, Rowand 5 2B's - Rowand 30, Pierre 19 SLG - Rowand .736, Pierre .680 RBI - Rowand 47, Pierre 69 AVG and OBP about the same. If this was a one for one, and the Sox want more speed, and a lefty batter, it is pretty easy to see that this would be a great move. Contracts: Pierre $5 million a year for 3 years (2005-2008) Rowand $3.25 million in 2006. He holds a player option for 2007 at $3.25 million. If he declines it, the White Sox can exercise a $5 million option. So does adding Thome and Pierre a better option than Rowand, Marte, Everett, and a prospect? I guess if they are pursuing Pierre, what does that say for Anderson? I think it says that Anderson is not a two hole hitter.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 10:22 PM) Ummmm something i dont think anyone has pointed out yet. But I DO believe that Thome is the most dangerous opposing team hitter who has ever played at the Cell. At least one of the most dangerous, I think he has hit the most Hr's there by an opposing hitter, i could be wrong, and im not going to look it up but I think its around 18 He absolutely rakes at the Cell.

QUOTE(Linnwood @ Oct 24, 2005 -> 04:39 AM) Okay, I'm drunk... nevermind... Either way

I'll kick Phil Garner's ass - don't mess with Hawk!