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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 27, 2005 -> 05:06 PM) I dont mind trading marginal second basemen to the Rockies. It worked pretty well the first time. Unfortunately, we won't be compensated wherever Willie goes. He was non-tendered.

If Bedard is going to be included, I think the Cubs need to add another piece to this puzzle. Although Prior would be great for the Orioles to attain, there is every reason for them to be high on Bedard. It's not as if he'd be a throw in. The Cubs know he is a quality pitcher with a high ceiling. I guess the same can be said for Hill, although he needs more seasoning, and is by no means a lock. I think the Cubs would have to include another quality arm.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 27, 2005 -> 05:22 AM) Jug, with all of our OF in the minors, why would we want to add another one to the mix? Can't hurt, as he can always be dealt at the deadline for other needs.

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 24, 2005 -> 11:28 PM) moved to diamond club Thanks

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Dec 24, 2005 -> 08:36 AM) Correct me if I'm worng, but isn't he moving to 1B? If so, trading Marte would open a hole at one of the corner infield positions for them. I believe the plan is to give Youkilis the opportunity to play first this year.

David Wells - S - Red Sox The Red Sox continue to discuss David Wells with the Dodgers and are likely trying to land prospects who could then be flipped to Tampa Bay for Julio Lugo. Andy LaRoche, Jonathan Broxton and Edwin Jackson are three of the names that would surely intrigue the Rays. Like Chad Billingsley, LaRoche should be off-limits in a Wells deal. Broxton and Jackson might not be. The Red Sox are also believed to still be discussing Wells with the Padres, but San Diego GM Kevin Towers wants Woody Williams to go the other way in a deal, something that doesn't interest the Red Sox at all. Dec. 24 - 4:06 am et Source: Boston Globe If he goes to San Diego, that could position the Sox to be at a greater advantage with any Garland discussions, in which the Dodgers would certainly be interested.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 24, 2005 -> 03:21 AM) I don't really see the point in dealing an excellent starting pitcher for a young third baseman, when we've already got Joe Crede who'll still be under our control for 3 seasons, and Josh Fields who'll start 2006 in Charlotte. That's why we're going after good starting pitching prospects. We can't assume that when Buerhle, Garcia's and Contreras's deals finish up, that they're going to re-sign with us again. Crede is most likely gone after this season, and although I like Fields, Marte has higher upside. Fields can still bring in some talent via trade. It was just a thought, very unlikely.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Dec 24, 2005 -> 03:18 AM) It also creates another difficult to fill hole for the Red Sox. I don't think they would jump at the oppurtunity to create another hole for themselves, even if they make their pitching staff better (and far more expensive in the short and long term, should they decide to keep Garland). Boston has Lowell for two seasons.

This isn't rumored, but what about sending Garland to Boston for Andy Marte. Ride out Crede for this year, maybe use him for a trade at the deadline, and possibly deal Fields as well. It certainly makes Boston even stiffer competition, but could also make us solid at third for several years to come.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:49 PM) Encarnacion is pretty horrible. Don't just look at his numbers from last season. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/ml...3845&statType=1 He's pretty much a fourth outfielder. This is a worse signing than Jock Jones. Those numbers aren't that bad. He plays a good outfield, and his power should go up being away from Pro Player stadium.

QUOTE(whitesox1976 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 03:56 PM) You got that right. With the record he had, our White Sox would be in deep trouble. I remember some bad pitchers the Sox had over the years. After winning the World Series, I would prefer to keep lousy pitchers a thing of the past! He said he finally feels healthy. It's certainly possible his poor performances the last 2 years were majorly contributed by this. Will he be lights out, probably not. However, maybe converting him to a reliever will help his cause. It has worked for many before. As stated numerous times throughout this thread, no risk. Take a shot, and see what comes of it.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:47 PM) Houston's an interesting one. You just think Tim Purpura is going to do something big down there. They missed out on Rondell White, and they could either trade for a big time SP like Jon Garland or trade for an OF like Bobby Abreu. And the Astros do have some good bullpen arms. Chad Qualls and Dan Wheeler would both make excellent fits in our pen. Absolutely, and with Clemens not coming back (probably anyway), they have some money to spend, and a pitching vacancy that Garland would fill nicely.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) The 4 teams I know are interested in Jon are Houston, Texas, LA Angels and LA Dodgers. What out of those teams has the most to offer as far as bullpen help? Good bye Jon G! We stuck with you- now you are going to get paid somewhere else. Houston and both LA teams have some pretty good pen arms, but I'm not sure what could or would be given up. The Dodgers are our best I think, as they do have some quality prospect pitching depth to throw in.

QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) Right, forget about Wilkerson, he is indeed a Boras client. I think one of those pitching prospects is too, not sure. I think Wilkerson would be more of a stop gap than our long term CF anyway. It would allow Anderson to ease into the lineup as a 4th outfielder, while getting a few hundred at bats. Also allows Iguchi to be moved down in the order. Uribe is an option, but Wilkerson would be more ideal. I think the fact that he is a Boras client is a non issue, as Anderson/Owens would be taking over CF full time in 07 regardless. A prime pitching prospect would probably prove to be better, but Texas will no doubtedly have reservations about this. More so than parting with Wilkerson, who could help more in 06.

Isn't there talk about Wilkerson? I'm all for giving Anderson his shot, but Wilkerson would be a good #2 hitter.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 02:11 AM) Did he say they were discussing it or did he just say it made sense? Cause he just threw it out there on sc saying it would make sense. cbssportsline rumor mill said Blalock would be the front part of a package. KW would probably need a pitching spect to go along with this.

QUOTE(GasHeGone @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:50 PM) Someone at ChicagoSports.com is talking about some deal brewing down in Dallas...Blalock, Wilkerson and a prospect for Crede, Garland? Anyone got any dirt on this? Wow, if true, talk about another offseason shake up.

QUOTE(GasHeGone @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 03:13 AM) My pet peeve: People who want in-demand players for below-the-Mendoza-line scrubs (ie - Vazquez for Chris Young and Fields. Are you serious?) Do we need 7 starters?

Not much would get me to give up McCarthy. Crawford would be a really good addition though. I'd be willing to deal Fields and some other propsects, but can't part with McCarthy.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 06:39 PM) As much as I want to try and deal Garland.. No thanks to Zito, IMO he is going to the NL.. besides..remember the last time we traded for a pitcher with the A's..That worked out well huh? Garland should be dealt at the winter meetings, as stated in a thread I started give garland our best offer, if he says no then bye bye.. His stock is very high right now sell now. BTW, I love Garland.. I assume you are referring to Koch, but we ended up with Cotts as well, which turned out pretty well. We just had to wait a little.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) Not going to happen. Garland will make a very reasonable amount this yr, through arb. What happens to Jon in 2007 depends on his performance this yr. If he does well [another year like 2005] I expect he'll be signed to a long term deal, along the lines of what other young, dependable SP's are making [Think Carl Pavano money--4 yr, $40 mill] It might make him the highest paid SP on the team. But the market is the market So the sox might have to overpay, like they did with PK. But paying for a workhorse who can throw 200 innings every yr is worth it. If Jon goes back to his 2004 numbers, all bets are off. I don't know that you sign Garland to a 4 year $40million dollar deal. Depending how McCarthy fairs this year, there may be room for another rookie starter to make a debut. If Garland tests the FA market, which I suspect he will, I'm pretty sure he'll walk. We'll get picks for him.

Wait, I'm confused. Are we saying Jabroni>Mueller? Lol.

QUOTE(timotime @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) no, i think flash gordon, kyle farnsworth, and bj ryan all tie for that honor BJ Ryan for sure, I don't think the other two were completely out of the questions. Although Gordon's contract wasn't ideal, they were forced to offer him a third year. The first two years, money wise isn't all that bad, especially considering what the other closers received. Farnsworth is a risk, but he has talent, and again, the Yankees were forced to make the move. Besides, Yankee money can't really be compared to the rest of the league. Anyone signng there automatically will want the best offer they can receive, and often they get it.

We can get picks if he leaves next year, right?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 01:38 AM) add anderson to the deal and you might, might, be in the ballpark. Probably not Marte straight up, but I doubt it would take Anderson. At least we wouldn't do it anyway.