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QUOTE(winodj @ Feb 20, 2005 -> 03:27 PM) Does the position of the starter really matter? If he's a quality starter and he's in a rotation - who cares if he's 3rd or 5th or 1st? More of a general baseball question I guess. It can matter as far as match ups are concerned. You certainly would rather avoid you're #5 going up against their #1 or #2. However, with Jose, he should be fine in the #3 spot, especially with the reasoning behind it.

QUOTE(winodj @ Feb 20, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) 87 wins and the division title. The Sox will win one game in the division series. The best showing in the playoffs since 1983. I wagered on that as well. The odds for the division have the Sox at +425, unbelieveable.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 20, 2005 -> 03:44 AM) that'd be awesome if we were over. It's definitely attainable, we won about as many games last year, and I happen to think we improved. At least I hope so, I wagered a little that we would.

These are the odds for the Sox regular season as of now.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 19, 2005 -> 11:10 PM) While this line is very much true, I find it kind of funny and full of irony. Part of the goal of the White Sox this offseason was to get rid of the power and add more on-base faster players who have good defense. Is that not EXACTLY what Harris is, especially against RHP? I know he's gone, and I know he has a questionable attitude...I just kind of think that is funny. Harris doesn't utilize his speed, so what good is it if you can't manufacture anything with it. He's young, but Harris has flaws that prevent the Sox from making him the everyday second baseman. Ironic, maybe, but smart nonetheless.

QUOTE(JimH @ Feb 19, 2005 -> 07:37 PM) Keith, I think your Option B is what this spring is all about. I truly believe they haven't found the right deal yet. It makes sense to wait as well because, guys may get hurt on other teams, or simply guys not playing up to expectations in ST who may look to us to acquire Harris. Value is all about demand, and the demand may be highest when ST is going on, or nearing completion.

Alex Escobar - OF - WAS Nationals acquired outfielder Alex Escobar from the White Sox for outfielder Jerry Owens. Ridiculous. Jim Bowden, forever obsessed with toolsy outfielders, never could get Escobar while he was with the Reds. Now he has him, but there's absolutely no place for him on the roster and he's out of options. If this were a free pickup, then we wouldn't have much of a problem with it, but in trading Owens, a 2003 second-round pick, he's surrendering one of the few position player prospects the Nationals have. A good move by White Sox GM Ken Williams. Feb. 13 - 2:40 pm et

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 13, 2005 -> 07:42 PM) He's a little old (24) for A ball don't you think? 108G 292A, 1HR, 37RBI, 30B w Class A Savannah 2004. 6'3", 195#. .292A .365O .349S 30/43 SB% 49WHBP 59K. I think Escobar has a better future. He's about to turn 24, and maybe he'll be bumped to AA this year. I don't know that he will or won't, but having a guy with his speed could end up being a very good thing in the future. We have enough outfield depth for this year, Escobar was more of an insurance policy. However, if anyone were to go down, Anderson would probably be a better option anyhow, IMO.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) All you guys aren't thinking of what he did when he was here. So he signed with another team? We got Dye to replace him, who is a gamble yet, a lot more versatile. I will cheer when he comes back to Chicago. It's easy to turn on someone when they go ahead and turn on you. It's like your dog that you raised biting your hand while feeding him, running to your neighbors, and viciously barking at you every time you walk past his fence. Maggs- :finger

QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Feb 4, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) Patterson is rated higher than Posednik because of his potential, but they ignore potential when looking at Iguchi vs. Walker, who by the way cannot turn a double play. Rowand is defensive minded. This is the world's greatest newspaper? Well, they make a great fish wrapper and bird cage liner. Exactly, I found it amusing with Walker too, who is the worst DP second basmean in the league. Although this struck me as well, Patterson rates ahead of Posednik (which we already described as faulty comparison based on position) because of potential, yet until AJ proves he can overcome be bad, bad boy, Barret will rank ahead of him? Can anyone say inconsistent?

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 11:18 PM) Be rest assured the SOX will not be the only team looking at Sheets. Just about every club with some $ to spend will be. All of the SOX starters are signed to reasonable contracts so the SOX should have the advantage there. But don't be surprised if it takes Mark or Freddy to land Sheets. Milw will not likely trade him w/out getting at least a #2 in return. The only exception I could see to that is if 1 of Hernandez, Contreras, or Garland is having a great 1/2 half. That might be enough to build a trade around w prospects. That would be sweet. I think Garland, Anderson, and McCarthy would probably get it done, and possibly a throw in. Cheap talent is the key, and that fits the bill. Would we be willing to give up those players for Sheets? My guess is most would say yes, and I'm certain KW would say yes. Although I would love to hang on to the prospects, a chance at getting Sheets is just too overpowering, especially if we're in contention. However, I would have to be certain that we'd be able to get a three year deal out of him in order to pull the trigger.

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 09:01 PM) Little bit of a shameless plug right here: http://www.nysportsday.com/news/chicago/1107249178.html Its nothing to big or elaborate. Something for the more casual fan, not for all you experts on the board. Hope you enjoy. Where's the articles for experts?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 07:58 AM) I hate when people throw this steroid stuff around so quickly. The moodiness question .... He had that one year in Boston, other that he's been totally professional. That was a Boston spin job. And the weight? Hell, everyone could see he needed to drop 15 pounds. We'd all be b****ing if he hadn't dropped the weight. He looked fit at Sox Fest and ready to go. He was overweight last year, so he lost fat weight, not muscle. (agreeing with you)

QUOTE(quickman @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 01:35 AM) Ok so you are agreeing with me that they don't have anyone that can spot start and make a difference? Your like switzerland. Why can't Hermanson spot start if needed?

It has been mentioned that Everett will lose his value once Frank comes back. I like Frank, and I hope he comes back strong. However, the Sox, if they want to be a contender, must be prepared for the reality that he may not come back and automatically be productive. No ST or live major league pitching, and he may be a little rusty. Also the injury factor, Everett will have value to this team throughout the duration of the season IMO.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) How about a three way deal with the Angels? Dodgers get Crede, Angels get Weaver, Sox get Chone Figgins. Don't know about the Dodgers or Angels, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. I don't think they would either, but ya, I'd do that.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) This has nothing to do with talent. It has to do with who's a better fit on the bench, being versatile, playing positions, getting AB's etc. Everett could be pounding the ball. But where would Pods play? Rowand? Dye? These 3 are all signed to 2 yr + deals. Carl isn't. If we deal Everett, it makes more sense to do so at the trade deadline.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 04:31 PM) The sox got nice production w/ PK at DH and Gload at 1B. The key is how long do the sox need Carl at DH. If a month and a half or less, he's extra weight [no pun intended ] It's not that PK can't DH, it's that he doesn't want to. If he was somehow convinced to do it, then fine, but it doesn't appear likely.

Everett certainly is needed with Frank out of the lineup. Moving PK to DH isn't going to do us any favors in the hope to resign him at a fair price. He wants to play first base, and he plays it pretty well. I too believe Gload could handle the duties, but for now, I don't mind keeping him in the role much like last year. If we need him to be more, we'll still have that option. However, for now, Everett serves a need.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 02:07 AM) I'm with you 100 percent on this one, I think the stolen base is more underrated then overrated. Not to mention the pressure it puts on opposing pitchers, and the amount of fastballs that become for frequent.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 12:03 AM) Sorry Hanky, but thats the WRONG way to think. You and I both know a healthy Maggs can be a monster. So your saying you would rather Maggs go to Detriot for the next 7 years and play us 19 times a year, then go to the Northside who we play 3 times a year???? If he's healthy. That's one spacious outfield if he's not, not to mention the offense he'll lose by being there. Very good player, but I'm indifferent to whereever he goes. The Sox will be fine either way. Remember, Detroit can beat up on the Twins as well.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 05:54 PM) I hope every guy on the bench thinks he should be starting and busts his ass to prove it. Guys that "understand" their role as backups and benchmates are losers. There's a difference to not having confidence to be able to play the position every day and wanting to win bad enough that you are willing to make personal sacrifices for the team.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) Id rather stab myself in the eye 1million times than keep Timo Perez over Harris. If Harris is moved before Timo, than it is a personal decision, not a statistical one. I dont think Harris will be moved as fast as many seem to think, KW's statements recently seem to be suggesting that they want Harris to step things up and make the team. Also, we arent going to get a utility infielder even close to Harris's quality, and that is considering he doesnt play 3b or SS. SB Timo = clutch Willie = not

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) IMO this team would be much better with Willie off the bench then Timo. It would also give us more flexibility because he gives us a 2B and an OF. However Timo wouldn't be traded unless he got caught pissing in KW cereal and even then it's kind of iffy (because they love him so much for some damn reason). I'd much rather have Willie able to step in and become the new CF if and when Pods or Iguchi fails. Timo should be traded.... Sadly Harris will be traded... Timo is liked because he's clutch, has a team first approach to the game, and doesn't b**** or smoke cigs. Willie has some growing up to do. Despite his talent, he doesn't fit the mold as far as attitude we're striving to acheive.

He already said he wants to stay on the Sox, and isn't looking to break the bank.