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He's 25, and the reason he's still in the minors is because there's a guy by the name of Jim Thome in his spot. Kind of how Gload was stuck behind Grace and Helton, and he turned out to be a pretty good player when given the opportunity. Maybe he's not worth Garland, but if we have Burnett and Clement, I'd be willing to part with him, and I'm pretty certain it would be enough to get a deal done. Probably won't happen, but it's not a terrible idea assuming the rest unfolded as wanted.

Wonder if we were cool enough to trade PK to the Marlins for AJ and Garland to the Phillies for Ryan Howard, and were still able to afford Clement and possibly a second baseman in Polanco or Cairo? Whack! Back down to earth.

Maybe this guy then. Ryan Howard - 1B - PHI Ryan Howard isn't making any demands, but he hopes the Phillies will trade him to a team that will allow him to play. Howard is already 25, so another year in the minors probably isn't going to help his stock any. Unfortunately for him, the Phillies have already fulfilled their major needs for 2005. They aren't likely to upgrade over Kenny Lofton and Cory Lidle now. Dec. 14 - 4:53 am et

Someone said Clement was just on 720 AM at 9 pm and said he was very interested in the Sox. Hopefully good news will follow soon.

Ya, it's cool.

Well I happen to think pitchers think differently, but that's JMO.

I think it matters regardless of where you bat.

Keep in mind that he had Craig freaking Counsell and and Junior Spivey protecting him in the lineup. With Rowand or Uribe hitting behind him, you figure he'd get some better pitches to hit.

I hope it's with the Brewers and not Toronto, if it indeed has to do with the rumors recently being discussed.

I don't think it's us, but if it is, I'll definitely take him. The Brewers deal would make more sense, as a cost cutting measure, for those who oppose it.

Ya, or Perez possibly. Maybe Clement was a little unrealistic with what he'll be commanding, but we can do something with the money saved. I think the trade would work to our advantage in the larger scheme of events unfolding throughout the rest of the offseason.

What if the deal with Brewers went down as said, and we freed up enough money for Clement, who may be holding out for the chance to not have to move? I like Pod and Ginter, they're solid players. Ginter would either be an option at third or second, or at the very minimum create better depth for the infield. Pod gives us a speedy CF who I believe will fall in the middle of his spectacular season and not so good season(while stealing a s*** of bases still). Rowand is a very good CF IMO, but with the three starters in the OF (assuming this trade happened, Rowand moving to LF), we would have a very good OF from a defensive perspective at the very least, which is the direction we're trying to take. So with that, along with Clement, for essentially Lee, I'm game.

I think after getting fleeced by the Brewers, it changed how they thought trading was actually done. Either demand will fall, or we look elsewhere. No big deal.

That's not even funny.

I love the part where he says we are liars, knew about the surgery, recommended it, and had all the medical records. Even Boras throwing in the email, lol. I'm glad Weil at least had the guts to admit the Sox didn't know because he didn't tell them. And the ultimate topper, I was waiting for the Sox to offer arbitration. Maggs, you are one funny guy.

If you believe Ordonez, it seems as though he is confusing himself since he has become vocal. Maybe that's why he was so quiet during his tenure here.

I think a trade or two would have to occur, to possibly boster the pen slightly, but I would say it would be successful.

No one will sign him before Dec.7, because the Sox will steal there pick in the draft. Which is also probably why Boras won't show us the medical records.

Good point, not to mention that we are out are DH for the beginning of the season.

I think Rowand has earned the right to be an everyday player next year.

They want to trim payroll. Besides, it's almost as if Leo can turn junk into gold.

Everyone's ERA inflates at the Cell, including opposing pitchers.

Agreed. The question would then be, is it worth it to send PK to AZ for Vazquez (assuming they'd do it). I say yes, as long as some of the cash comes along with Vazquez to offset his inflated Yankee contract.

Andy Sisco of the Chicago Cubs is to be risked in the Rule 5 draft. He's a 6' 9" lefty who can throw 90-93, but up to 95. He's a starter who still needs a little polish, but is a former second round draft pick with some real good upside. Cub's fans have been talking all year about how their pitching prospects are the best around, and all have included this guy as part of their reasoning. Not that Cub's fans know what the hell they are talking about, but this guy sounds like someone to take a risk on. Supposedly the Cubs are under the assumption that no one will keep the guy on their roster all year long. However, if we choose to give him back, a $25,000 gamble doesn't seem inappropriate to me.

So the Yanks get Johnson over us, big deal. If we can somehow be the team that gets Javier Vazquez, with a little money thrown our way, and deal PK to AZ and possibly someone else, I would be happy. This guy has some talent, and would fit nicely in our rotation. Probably even better than Johnson when considering youth, potential, and years signed. per rotoworld: Javier Vazquez - S - NYY While speculation is that the Yankees would like to pull a Thanksgiving Day deal of their own this season, a Randy Johnson trade isn't likely to be completed this week. The rumors started heating up yesterday, with sources telling the Boston Herald a deal could be done as soon as today. However, there are still major roadblocks to be overcome. The biggest involves the frightening possibility for Arizona that Javier Vazquez would demand a trade next winter, as would be his right after being dealt while in the middle of a multiyear deal. The Yankees may have to get a third team involved if they want to use Vazquez to acquire Johnson. Since Yankees GM Brian Cashman is scheduled to spend the next five days at Disney World, it's unlikely that anything will get done soon. Nov. 25 - 3:08 am et