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QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 29, 2006 -> 05:34 PM) That is a great point. Why would they want Brian Anderson back in a trade? That is what Levine reported, but that doesn't make sense at all. 2 young pitching prospects should get it done. Floyd and Broadway for Baldelli. They could spin Anderson to the Marlins for even more pitching.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Dec 26, 2006 -> 03:25 AM) I know they probably scouted him extensively. I'm not accusing the Sox frot-office of doing a half-assed job. Given their level of baseball expertise and mine, they have a better chance of beeing right than I do. But, just from the numbers, Floyd doesn't look like he's going to be a major league pitcher. The thing that's alarming is that his minor league numbers aren't even good. I don't know how the Sox scouting is set up, but they've done a terrible job drafting for several years now. So it's not like the Sox haven't been wrong about players before. Much like Thorten and Jenks, the talent was always there, but unable to harness for one reason or another. It's been said that Floyd has been too mechanical in his delviery, and is now just starting to let it go a little bit. He's always had good stuff, but sometimes its just giving them the confidence to trust their stuff, and be aggressive on the mound. He's 23, so I wouldn't write him off yet. He's been compared by the Phillies to Garland, both stuff wise and being a late bloomer.

QUOTE(whitesox1976 @ Dec 26, 2006 -> 04:55 AM) Bmac is a real good pitcher and still can't figure out why in the world KW would trade him. Because Danks and Massett are real good pitchers as well.

QUOTE(spiderman @ Dec 26, 2006 -> 02:03 AM) Who are next year's free agent OF's, and what makes anyone think we're going to overpay for them, especially considering that we have our potential free agent OF with Jermaine Dye not to mention at least 3 younger OF's (Sweeney, Anderson, and Owens) plus a potential 4th in Josh Fields ? I'm assuming to a degree, but KW never made a claim to not spending money, only that he would not overpay for mediocre talent. I wouldn't include Fields, unless Crede is extended, as I would expect him to take over third base in 08. Dye is certainly a possibility to be extended, and at the right price, I'd be game. I believe Owens will be a fourth outfielder, I don't expect him to break out as a starting LF. With the money saved on pitching, I would really like to see the Sox make a run at Ichiro next year. There are other options as well, but that would be as good of an upgrade at leadoff as we could get, with the possible exception of Crawford. Although Crawford's availability is questionable, even if it weren't, the price is more than I'd be willing to pay.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Dec 26, 2006 -> 12:39 AM) He's been in decline every year since 2003 (when steroid testing began). He's not much defensively, and is asking for 7 million a year for 3 years. No thanks! Agreed, next year's FA ourfielders are much more appealing, and Fields is a better long term option at third.

QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 25, 2006 -> 05:01 PM) I didnt read the entire thread so I dont know if thjis was mentioned or not, but is there any possibility aquiring Danks has also a little to do with his brother? The way KW covets people and never forgets about them, could this possibly be a way to convince Jordan to leave Texas so they can draft him again? I don't think that is the purpose, but certainly would be a nice benefit.

I think we'll open with Buerhle, unless two of our guys really impress in ST. My guess, depending where we are at the trade deadline, and the production of the ptichers in AAA will decide Buerhle's fate. It sounds like he's going to test the market either way...

Who thinks the Knights team is going to bring it next year. Seriously, are pen is stacked, with not even enough room for all. Our rotation can look very good in a year, two years. With our offense, if our starters can hold them for 5 or 6 innings... We have the talent to shut down teams almost every night!

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 22, 2006 -> 04:23 PM) Preston Wilson would actually be a really good fit for this club, so long as he can play an adequate CF, which basically means something not along the Mackowiakian prowess. He can play CF.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 10:53 PM) Sweeney is an excellent prospect, but he isn't ready for the majors yet. His 2006 performance in AAA and the majors showed that. We shouldn't slow his development by bringing him up to the majors so that he can sit on the bench as a backup OFer. The fact that he is a little better defensively than Terrero doesn't justify hampering his development. Definitely needs the call up with expanded rosters, which I realize is an obvious statement. Fact is, he's probably patrolling our outfield somewhere next year. Whether that be RF or LF... Which means, we need to find him some major league at bats in 07.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 04:47 AM) I love the heat, but isn't it more efffective to have a few fireballers mixed in with a few junk ballers in the pen? Hitters won't have to make many adjustments when they know every guy in our pen is gonna throw 95-100 mph heat. The Royals might have become our farm system. The beauty of these guys are how hard they throw with the ability to throw a hard breaking ball to boot.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 10:50 PM) FWIW, here's an article from BP talking about the trade and some of Sisco's behavior problems: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=104 They're going to have to better than eating tacos during a Mexican league game to convince me that he's a "troubled" kid. Ozzie probably would have been more pissed he didn't bring him any when he showed up in the second inning...

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 06:27 PM) http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/NASApp/ml...jsp&c_id=kc Very interesting article. It's very, very obvious the Sox saw something back in 2006... Sounds like a very intelligent kid, who is open to taking advice. Should work well with Coop...

QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 03:06 PM) Shoot, If I were the Mets I wouldn't even give up Pelfrey for Vazquez (I am very biased, I think Vazquez is a marginal, at best, pitcher). However, maybe they like the guy... We'll see where Zito ends up, but Minya stated he was disappointed they weren't able to get Garcia. They tried for him, but said they couldn't agree on the prospects...

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 10, 2006 -> 06:51 PM) If the Sox dump Vazquez they'll have to eat a big part of his salary. They wont do that IMO. I agree with you though that getting rid of Garland should be the last thing the Sox do as he was their most effective pitcher last season. I don't think they'd eat any of it, seeing as the Mets would be the most likely suitor, if it was Vazquez. Besides, AZ is picking up $2 mill already for this year.

Pretty sure it was said by KW that the Yanks and Cards were not a match. But I guess you still never know...

Sign me up for Hirsch, later JG... I agree though, I'd prefer to develop good young pitching and spend on positions.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 9, 2006 -> 05:02 PM) It's amazing how much everyone is overreacting when everyone knew that a starting pitcher was going to be traded this offseason. Not to mention that we set ourselves up nicely to plug in guys at the bottom of the rotation for the next few years.

QUOTE(shoota @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 05:36 AM) The fact that Ozzie admits Mack is a poor choice in center indicates what we've been speculating for months, that Ozzie knew Anderson in center is the best option he had, yet he let personal bias trump what was best for the team's success. Or he let the offense outweigh the defense.

QUOTE(SadChiSoxFanOptimist @ Dec 3, 2006 -> 05:32 PM) Conventional wisdom on this site is that Tampa Bay has already rejected him as a key element in a Crawford trade. TB would want Santana, McCarthy, and probably Vasquez to give up Crawford. They've stated they want two front line starters and a top pitching prospect. **** that. If we get Santana, I just assume keep him. He's going to break out...

QUOTE(shoota @ Dec 3, 2006 -> 05:39 PM) Yeah, I agree we can't criticize KW until he sets the 2007 roster, it's just that his recent actions have given me an unsettling feeling I haven't had before with KW. Here's why I feel that way: his dumbfounded reaction to this offseason's FA prices and cry-poor mentality of complaining to the public how he can't compete in that field; his failure to "seal the deal" on at least two trades he was in discussion with (Rangers and Angels). If KW's budget doesn't allow him to play the big-time FA game, fine, he needs to accept his tougher situation and make the best of it. I don't know that it is fair to say KW wasn't able to seal the deal on trades which may or may not have been accurate. Just because they are in print doesn't mean they were on the table. Maybe it was discussed, but that doesn't mean KW failed in some respect because it didn't happen. Besides, after some of these FA pitchers sign, we'll be in a better situation to maximize our trade options.

I like the idea of taking advantage of this market, but the possibility would largely be impacted if we got Santana. The other pitching spects would be great to have, but I think you can only risk it by getting the talent of Santana, who has proved he pitch at this stage, showing improvement. I think he's ready to bust out this year or next...

Ramon Ortiz was not offered arbitration either. Riske may have more value, but Ortiz was a popular name not too long ago.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Nov 28, 2006 -> 05:22 AM) Yah. Its not a great market for GMs who don't want to hand out s***ty contracts. I don't blame him one bit. And as much as I love Joe Crede, if the market stays the same, I certainly wouldn't give him the contract that he would most likely be looking for. He may be with us through 2007, but I certainly don't see him being our 3B in 2008. Especially with Fields coming along nicely.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 28, 2006 -> 04:45 AM) A big concern for me with Figgins is that he's terrible against LHP. In our division, that's a pretty big issue with any offensive player that we bring in. Ozuna can platoon, when facing lefties, adequately.