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With the FA pitching market as it is this offseason coming up, whose to say we couldn't get a talented player like Young in a trade? That was basically the meat of the deal for Javy, and even though I don't believe the Sox move him, his value could bring in a lot. Young's going to be a great player, at least he's prepped to be, but Javy could bring in a lot of talent. I think this deal still favors the Sox...

Richar scores again

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 10:41 PM) Once again I ask what does Myers' performance the rest of this season have anything to do with how he will perform in 2008? Politte and Cotts were good at this time in 2005, what did that mean for 2006? Thornton, MacDougal, Masset, and Aardsma were pretty good the final month or so of 2006, what did that translate to in 2007? The Sox should give their young pitchers the innings they are giving Myers to get some experience. Myers should take some time off, and the Sox should have invited him to spring training. And let the guy rust over until ST of 08? He still needs to be out there if you expect him to contribute, even next year.

Alright, the team's going bad. No need to gang rape Ozzie just because he is trying something out in the next ST for crying out loud. It's like any announcement needs immediate disapproval from this site. Relax, it's a strategy - no big deal.

QUOTE(max power @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 11:26 AM) Everybody loves this damned(j/k) town, apparently. Dye(maybe to a lesser extent because of an off year), Kong, Buehrle . . . Zambrano. Chicago's tight

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 12:30 AM) Well KW supposedly told Buerhle he would be going after some big names.. I think if they can somehow get someone to take Contreras for half of the rest of his salary than he can make a decent splash... But who? I'm sure ridding or reducing the amount owed to Contreras by trade will significantly help, but I think the Sox will open the payroll books a little this winter as well.

Next - AROD for 7 yrs $210 million go get him

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws I have to say, when the contract extension was in the midst of collapsing, I was upset and felt a trade was necessary. It just goes to show that there are things going on under the radar that aren't visible to the whole population. I'm glad he wants to be here as much as he does. Definitely adds some brownie points in my book.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Aug 18, 2007 -> 01:40 PM) Are the Iguchi and Mackowiak salaries pro-rated for this year? Always - you get the savings on the remaining payments of the year's salary when trading a player. Unless of course cash is part of the trade...

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Aug 10, 2007 -> 07:32 PM) Clearly the easiest name and the first player that comes to my mind is AROD. Will he get him? I don't know. He is a good fit for this team and KW has always wanted him. I think it would be nice to have the best player ever on the White Sox and have him break the all time home run record here. Jerry Reinsdorf also has a history of paying big for position players (Carlton Fisk, Albert Belle). I say there is a good chance AROD is with the White Sox next year and for years to come. Can you imagine AROD in this park? Its a perfect situation for him as well! Homeruns would be launched nonstop.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 9, 2007 -> 11:30 PM) I wonder how many people I rick rolled so far. Everybody's an expert... Really, I don't have anybody in mind who would be better, or who players would want to play for more.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 5, 2007 -> 08:22 PM) DJ was still there today. Stone starts Tuesday. Thanks - hope they're on WGN for a couple of them...

How were Hawk and Stone together?

Does this put a damper in the Sox 20 year plan?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:58 AM) Fields with his 2 hits last night has the average up to .241, and dumping Crede is the subject of the day. For as bad as Crede supposedly was before last season, if he batting more than 50 times his worst season was .239 with 21 homers and GG quality defense. Non tender Joe Crede? Ridiculous. These White Sox "prospects" are a lot like back up quarterbacks. So many people love them until they really have to count on them. When I heard Hawk say the Sox really have something special in Andy Gonzalez yesterday, I questioned why Duane Shaffer got the pink slip. WOW It'll all depend on his back... If healthy, I'm sure he'll begin the ST to prove it with the Sox, probably leading to a trade. I didn't hear him say it, but "something special" is subjective. I though of Ozuna as a "very good" utility player, and I envision AG taking on that role. That could be "something special"...

QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 06:36 PM) 4th would be an optomistic point of view, unless we keep our payroll in the top 10 the Royals will challenge the sox for that 4th place slot. Geez, you guys make it sound like MB will be the difference between a WS and an AL Central last place finish. It's not that drastic...

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 03:07 PM) He sucks....outside of his first relief appearance and his Cubs start, he's one of the worst pitchers in Sox history. 51 base runners in his last 17 relief innings is all you need to know. Lol - I don't know man, we've had some losey pitchers, so it would take a little more than 17 innings to reach that title. I get your point though...

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 02:55 PM) He belongs in Charlotte to duke it out with the other AAAA pitchers we have assembled. Just imagine this rotation for the Knights: Broadway Sisco Masset Haeger Floyd Just good enough to be good in AAA. I'm not opposed to get him more seasoning in AAA, I'm just saying he's a decent pitcher, and could possibly help the ball club in the future.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 02:55 PM) I didn't say anything about McCarthy being better than Danks...read what I wrote. I was talking about the fact that Gammons reported McCarthy was one of 2 minor league players supposed to go from Chicago to Boston in addition to Ordonez. I don't know if it's true, but if it is Boston picked out probably the most valuable player in the Sox system then. It's an unsettling idea. As for McCarthy, he pitched very well against Baltimore in his last start. It's too early to know which guy will be the better pitcher, but it certainly looks like a decent trade for the Sox if only because Danks has less service time. Masset:7.34 ERA 2.00 WHIP .329 BAA. 20/25 K/BB ratio. What do you see that I don't? I read what you wrote, and my point is that who cares if McCarthy would have been asked by the Red Sox? Why wouldn't they? We're asking for the world with MB... But more importantly, the Sox got good value for McCarthy. The Red Sox and any other major league team is going to ask for the best they can get. I don't necessarily think they have super scouts that can find jewels in our system, and we're just clueless about it. As for Masset, he's a rookie and in a unique pitching role. To play devil's advocate, I guess I could post McCarthy's stats and ask the same question to you. I think Masset has some value to our team, not necessarily as a starter, but much like McCarthy, I don't see how his short stint in the big leagues automatically sums up his future.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 02:49 PM) Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Frustrated a little? Anyway, he doesn't exactly have the easiest role, but he has some decent stuff. I'm not prepared to ditch him...

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 02:26 PM) It's going to be Pods...I mean Ellsbury. It's destiny. Maybe something like Buehrle and minor leaguers for Ellsbury. I shudder at the thought of the Red Sox scouts picking over the Sox system. They almost got McCarthy as a throw in in the scuttled Ordonez-Nomar trade. You just know they'll evaluate the Sox system better than the Sox themselves (maybe De Los Santos will be the throw-in this time). McCarthy isn't exactly lighting it up these days. I remember when everyone called for KW's head then, but I take Danks all day. Not to mention Masset as a nice throw in.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 01:02 AM) Have fun watching Gavin Floyd every 5 days next year. Plus whatever rookie or retread takes Contreras' slot. Good pithcing is hard to find, and the 4 year deal for Buehrle isn't that big of a risk. KC signed Meche, but the Sox won't take this risk.... This team is going to have to grow with some young talent either way. MB alone won't save this team, as good as he is. I'm prepared to let some of these kids take their lumps and figure it out at the MLB level. Shoot, Floyd and others will have their shot either way, with or without MB. That's the future we face...

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 01:05 AM) Don't forget whoever takes over for Garland. If you're not going to give out NTC, you better be trading Garland, Contreras, Thome, Iguchi, etc. Even if the negotiation leaks were the fault of Buehrle's family, the Sox organization looks absolutely pathetic right now. That's a good point - whatever stance is taken, there are pros and cons. QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 01:05 AM) Even if the negotiation leaks were the fault of Buehrle's family, the Sox organization looks absolutely pathetic right now. I see where people are upset, but I don't necessarily agree. That's strictly my own vantage point. It may be the wrong move, and maybe the Sox will have to give in to players in the future, further making this situation look bad. However, I have to say, I agree with them on this. And honestly, if the Sox can get a good package of young talent for MB, I think this team needs it. MB is young, but we just have so many holes right now, and with the situation being as it is, I really won't disagree with a trade. Again, that's me, and I realize most people will not agree.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 01:00 AM) Embarrasing. For who?

Trade him... It's over, we need to get something for him. I'm done with the drama, and against the majority here, I am not in favor of giving the NTC. Too much risk, and gives too much power to the player. It's not just about the Sox being able to trade him, but what's over looked is that if MB decides he wants to be traded (since the team may very well struggle a few years) he has complete control of who he goes to, and the Sox are stuck getting little in return.