29andPoplar Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Article on the White Sox site, Guillen stating he wants starting pitchers to pitch in spring games vs. B games to get them more ready for April. I can vouch for what he says about scouts at the B games and the back fields ... sometimes a couple dozen are in attendance. http://whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?y...sp&c_id=cws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Great move. I think this is the only problem with this team....100 wins next year is a virtual lock now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Here is an idea, lets put the starters thru more innings in the preseason to replicate the burnout felt in 2006. Also have Hall play 1B again, and any new player play out of position to acclimate them to their current position. Lastly, have Anderson tear it up in the preseason only to be beat out by Julio Franco/Ricky Henderson/Rafael Palmiero for the starting Centerfielder job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 09:50 PM) Here is an idea, lets put the starters thru more innings in the preseason to replicate the burnout felt in 2006. Also have Hall play 1B again, and any new player play out of position to acclimate them to their current position. Lastly, have Anderson tear it up in the preseason only to be beat out by Julio Franco/Ricky Henderson/Rafael Palmiero for the starting Centerfielder job. Then sign 38 year old loogy's who cant get lefties out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 09:52 PM) Then sign 38 year old loogy's who cant get lefties out. No, you have it all wrong... Thats a late waiver wire move/August move after you're already sweeping the cellar in your division. We're talking spring training! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Alright, the team's going bad. No need to gang rape Ozzie just because he is trying something out in the next ST for crying out loud. It's like any announcement needs immediate disapproval from this site. Relax, it's a strategy - no big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Alright, the team's going bad. No need to gang rape Ozzie just because he is trying something out in the next ST for crying out loud. It's like any announcement needs immediate disapproval from this site. Relax, it's a strategy - no big deal. Thank you. Geez, I'm sorry I posted the article but hopefully those who had a sarcasm build up feel better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 09:50 PM) Here is an idea, lets put the starters thru more innings in the preseason to replicate the burnout felt in 2006. Also have Hall play 1B again, and any new player play out of position to acclimate them to their current position. Lastly, have Anderson tear it up in the preseason only to be beat out by Julio Franco/Ricky Henderson/Rafael Palmiero for the starting Centerfielder job. the burnout was from the playoffs and the WBC, not spring training. I agree with the rest(lol franco, palmeiro and Henderson), but i dont see the harm in making sure your pitchers are ready for the upcoming season by making them work in ST. I think one necessity is making sure Contreras has a slump buster if he is still on the team. Something to get his mind off of his divorce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 How about NO Winter Ball-who does that ever benefit? Unless someone is changing positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 09:45 AM) How about NO Winter Ball-who does that ever benefit? Unless someone is changing positions. Fields in left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Aug 19, 2007 -> 05:28 PM) Article on the White Sox site, Guillen stating he wants starting pitchers to pitch in spring games vs. B games to get them more ready for April. I can vouch for what he says about scouts at the B games and the back fields ... sometimes a couple dozen are in attendance. http://whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?y...sp&c_id=cws Hawk has always praised Ozzie for finding a ton of playing time for minor leaguers in spring training games. I wonder if he will praise him now for making his frontline pitchers travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hawk has always praised Ozzie for finding a ton of playing time for minor leaguers in spring training games. I wonder if he will praise him now for making his frontline pitchers travel. Who knows. Personally it means very little to me what Hawk praises. The between-the-lines criticisms are far more insightful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 If I didn't know any better, I would think that some of the comments in the Tribune article basically made it seem like they don't think Danks was the right person to pick for the starting rotation. As much as I'm critical of his potential, there was nothing for him to prove in the minors this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I just didn't know the starting pitching was the problem. Before I comment anymore, I will read the article. But I think many of the comments are due to the fact that most of the starting pitching has been fine. Our problem are those dang wood things you swing at the ball. Or so I thought. But what do I really know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Huh, wouldn't the same go for the hitting? I know you want to get "at bats", but isn't there a BIG difference between having somebody hit off of a major league ready pitcher and hit off of a AA guy? So doesn't it make sense to just keep all of your starters out of the B game level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 11:43 AM) Huh, wouldn't the same go for the hitting? I know you want to get "at bats", but isn't there a BIG difference between having somebody hit off of a major league ready pitcher and hit off of a AA guy? So doesn't it make sense to just keep all of your starters out of the B game level? The whole thing just sounds of doing something different just to do something different. Contreras was the only guy in the rotation until Garland blew up that you could say underperformed this season, and he was outstanding in the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 These statements by Guillen kind of go along with what he said a few months ago. He said he wants to play more regulars in spring training. The general idea was the team might gel quicker and get off to a better start. Basically my feeling is they plan to run a tougher camp in some ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Anyone else find it funny that the Sox seem to be the only organization that treats B games like real games therefore our hitters have not faced major league pithcers and our pitchers have not faced major league hitters prior to the start of the season. I know this not the case all of the time but it seemed to happen quite often where Jim Thome gets 94 at-bats in a B game off guys making injury rehab starts as oppossed to facing Brandon Webb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 02:09 PM) These statements by Guillen kind of go along with what he said a few months ago. He said he wants to play more regulars in spring training. The general idea was the team might gel quicker and get off to a better start. Basically my feeling is they plan to run a tougher camp in some ways. Good. And don't be sorry about posting that stuff. Some of us are actually curious about the future (those of us who haven't already divined a 100-loss season in 2008). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 12:33 PM) Good. And don't be sorry about posting that stuff. Some of us are actually curious about the future (those of us who haven't already divined a 100-loss season in 2008). Yeah, the negative people on this site aren't curious about the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 05:36 PM) Yeah, the negative people on this site aren't curious about the future. They are - only to b****. (not in green). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 (edited) I'm enjoying the sarcasm, actually, because between this and KW's "We're almost there!" (Wannestadtian!) proclamations, I really don't want to hear it. Talk, talk, talk. What I want to see is DOING. On the field. We have sucked ass since July 2006 and I've heard pretty much every excuse you can imagine. Edited August 21, 2007 by LVSoxFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 01:52 PM) They are - only to b****. (not in green). I am very much interested in the future, in b****ing and in praising, thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 06:59 PM) I am very much interested in the future, in b****ing and in praising, thank you very much. I think we all are. There are some, however, that have resumed to the normal "we are going to suckage no matter what" mentality, and IMO those people should wait until when teams report next spring to decide that. If major moves are not made, then we have our answer, and we get to have another year of hell in the Palehose section of soxtalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 I think we all are. There are some, however, that have resumed to the normal "we are going to suckage no matter what" mentality, and IMO those people should wait until when teams report next spring to decide that. And those people will read your post and not understand it's them you're talking about. Ain't that always the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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