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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 06:59 PM) So you chose the failed route of the KC Royals, Pittsburgh Pirates and Baltimore Orioles. All three at one time were considered model franchises. I just don't see what's gained by not signing Buehrle unless you are in JR's will. The Royals and Pirates are under fairly new regime. The Orioles are just terrible from top-to-bottom. The Sox tried it a certain way. Now they've become the Cubs.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 06:38 PM) You call that rock-bottom? I'd hate to see what adjectives you use to describe what's been going on in KC & Pittsburgh the last 25 years, or the last 10 in Baltimore. Considering the payroll difference, yeah, us finishing third is like them finishing last.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 06:52 PM) Funny, each of those franchises have been lauded the past few years for all of their prospects. I don't know what people are smoking when they think the Sox can dump all their good players, pick up other teams' prospects draft some studs and be fine in 3 years. There is nothing to suggest the White Sox even know how to develop players and have been average at best identifying young talent the last decade. So let's go the same failed route of the last six years because a few fans might not show up (you know, the park was f***ing booming last August/September) if they can't see Mark's 86 MPH FB every fifth day.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 06:14 PM) Why do so many want the Sox to hit rock bottom? Why can't they sign Buehrle and rebuild. JR isn't going broke, the payroll apparently won't be an issue for a few years. Maybe the Cardinals in 6 months to a year need a starter. The Sox could deal him and gain what so many here like better than actual major league players...................prospects. Chances of most of the prospects the Sox will be trading for and the players the Sox draft the next few years panning out like the last real rebuild, McDowell, Thomas, Ventura, Fernandez are very slim. They have to try to do both, win and build. Outside of a 30 game stretch in 2010, one could argue the last three years have been rock-bottom. And the chances of Mark being traded IF he resigns with the Sox are zero.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 06:03 PM) Konerko to the Brewers makes a ton of sense That system is ugly. Their top prospects are guys they drafted last June.

:lolhitting :lolhitting @Peavy requesting a trade.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:59 PM) Can be included as a PTBNL per the old CBA. Not sure if that has changed. Yeah, I don't even feel like checking. Pain in the ass trying to fully understand both the MLB and NBA systems.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) He was just drafted, someone correct me if I am wrong.. but he can't get traded for 1 year? True.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) Even if he was under control as Floyd, he isn't that good to demain one top spect... to ask for 2 is downright luaghable. If he were under control for even two years he'd command at least one top prospect. And by top prospect I mean consensus top 20ish or so. He still might now (long as you're not ridiculous). I agree that guys like Jesus Montero are pure fantasy.

Low-risk, high-reward?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) But imagine the package required for Gio. Danks would be much more attractive because you could get him for a lot less (which should still be a lot anyway). I realize that. But Gio is not a FA until 2016. If a team is going to part with top prospects, you're going to lean a lot more towards him I would imagine.

QUOTE (CyAcosta41 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) Great. It's a free country. Then, no deal Yank-mes! If the Yanks are "unwilling" to trade talent for talent, then plug Banuelos or some of the usual retreads into the rotation THIS season. Go explain that to your fans, Cashman. The Sox should (FINALLY) be unwilling to trade valuable chips for other team's junk. It's only when you walk from the junk that other GMs will start understanding they need to offer actual value to get a deal done. I REALLY hope that this is the year KW finally understands that when you have some leverage you actually use it. The free agent SP market is so thin that someone will step-up for quality, affordable, young pitchers like Danks and/or Floyd. This entire process should be about finding that someone. I haven't been in the war-room, but far too often it sure seems that KW has telegraphed his punches and has jumped at first offers because he just had to get something done (e.g., BOTH Swisher trades -- in-coming and out-going). Kenny! You're holding some cards with Danks, Floyd, Quentin, and Thornton. Play your cards! Don't get played. Asking for the moon initially is basically GMing 101. But ultimately, you're not getting anything close to that package. It doesn't help that Gio Gonzalez is apparently on the market.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 01:06 PM) The Yankees like Danks, tweets SI's Jon Heyman, but they're unwilling to meet Chicago's request of top prospects Manny Banuelos and Jesus Montero. In fact, Heyman says the Yankees wouldn't trade either for Danks. From what I gather, they wouldn't trade Montero for anybody not named Felix Hernandez.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 01:02 PM) The Bears defensive line sent him into his last retirement. Now the Bears offensive line can have the chance.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:57 PM) SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman #royals, who've already added 2 pitchers, talking trades for starters. In on gio gonzalez, others. Wil myers coveted by others 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply That would be pretty neat if the Royals got Gio. All they need is some pitching and they become pretty scary. Their bullpen could be one of the best in baseball if Broxton is even semi-competent next year. SP is their problem. But yeah, Gio would look mighty good heading their rotation. Price will be steep as hell.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) They have the funniest manager in baseball, they are always legitimate players. To be serious, I agree with you. That would be a pretty solid 1 through 4 in their starting rotation J. Johnson Nolasco Sanchez MB/Wilson Reyes, Ramirez and Stanton is just, like, f***ing exciting. It feels sexy even as I type their names. It will be very interesting to see how Ramirez adapts to a new position. He's saying all the right things, I guess.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 11:03 PM) Greg must be celebrating the Marlins' 2012 NL Championship, along with random Lawrence/KC-area fans. Reyes, Heath Bell and taking a run at Pujols? Wow! Say what you will, but if they sign Buehrle or Wilson, they're a legitimate player in the NL next year.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 05:43 PM) I'd put the Cowboys on that list, well before the Falcons. Put them in any order you want. It's the Packers and everybody else in the NFC. Duke said the Bears, with a healthy Cutler, had as good a chance as anybody to beat the Packers. That doesn't mean much to me because the Packers are so much better than everybody else. So what if the Bears are the tallest midget. They had their chance last year when Rodgers was somewhat human and they had homefield advantage.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 05:40 PM) Its called selling tickets. The idea that you can completely gut the team and still get anyone to the stadium is just ignorant of the Sox history. If guys like Buehrle and Konerko aren't here, the stadium will go back to drawing a million. So, the 130 or so games in which Mark doesn't pitch means only a million people are going to show up?

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 05:00 PM) Falcons? Cowboys? Really? What? Yes. That's pretty much it. I don't think any team in the NFC has a chance to beat the Packers outside of the Saints. I was just naming the few good teams in the conference.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) Nice of you to troll when the Bears have a s***ty backup QB throwing passes. Bears had scored 30+ points in quite a few games with Cutler and were rolling on offense with Jay. I'm not trolling. Just being objective. The Bears do not have a championship caliber offense. Earl Bennet? Are you serious. He's a 4th WR in GB or NO. The Bears go defense, special teams, offense. That's the way it's always been. That doesn't win anymore unless you're the Steelers. QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) With a healthy Cutler the NFC has about 5 teams better than almost all of the crap in the AFC. NFC is far superior to the AFC. Again, the SB will not be played in Lambeau. That's a huge difference.

God damn I love watching Cam Newton.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) This would be for the backup OF position. I know this isn't 2005. Would only have to pay him the league minimum which would save us some money. Save us some money? What?!

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) Drabek for Beckham make sense? I'd do it. Drabek+Cooper >>> Beckham+Manto

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 4, 2011 -> 04:02 PM) The past couple weeks Barber looked better than Forte. Barber and Bell are fine. The Bears problem is the s*** they have at wideout (outside of Bennett) and Jay Cutler being hurt. They're fine in their roles. Neither is capable of being a lead-back. When Forte went down, the running game went with him.