Jordan4life_2007

I'd take Mark Trumbo at this point.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) so do you. so forget about it and resume the conversation with William Oh c'mon now. I get silly when it comes to the Sox/Bulls sometimes. But this is the relationship thread. I don't even consider this a real thread. It's like an optical illusion to me.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 06:20 PM) dude ask me this when I'm sober. Right now my focus is entierly on maintaining correct splling and I'm not doign that great of a job. Isn't being drunk grand? What are you drinking by the way?

f***in' .500. I'll take it.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:29 PM) I was talking about my godmother, sorry if I worded it wrong and confused you haha. But that 22 yr old has a White Sox shirt I gave to her. She is undeserving of that! I edited. No big deal. I thought she might've been older. Shack is the one that makes mountains out of molehills.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:20 PM) My goodness...put down the Mickey's for a second... What the hell? He said she was like a grandma. I've never viewed a girl in that way. Grandmas do old people s*** for you. Because they're, well, old. I thought maybe she was older. I watched a Law and Order earlier today where a guy (22) was messing with a woman (49).

Oh, and I hate Mark Teahen.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) Well I don't think he is this good, either. He is pitching as a top six or seven pitcher in the AL right now, which I don't think he is. His advanced stats say he is due for some regression. But I truly believe he is 12-15 game winner with a 3.75-4.00 ERA. And that is fine with me. That'd be more than fine for me. That'd be excellent. Just saying I'm not sure of this yet. Just my opinion.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) Really, there's a couple years in there extra...but this is the Gavin Floyd story repeated. Top flight pick, comes up and never gets consistent performances, becomes known as a head case, comes to the Sox, and snaps out of it. All I'm saying is I'm not convinced yet. But I will fully admit I've been wrong about him to this point. Now let's win this damn game.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:17 PM) I think it's clear Humber has turned a corner. Now, I don't think he will be a sub-3.00 ERA guy, but he should be mid-rotation type for this team for the foreseeable future. I'm not convinced of this year. He'd have to perform well into next season at a similar level for me to believe he's this good. QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:17 PM) Not a real sub-3.00 ERA pitcher? Are you saying he's a fluke? I don't get it. He's got a 2.69 ERA. I'd say that's true enough for me. Maybe fluke wasn't the right term. Do I think he's a 2.69 ERA, .98 WHIP or whatever it is caliber? No. Do I think he can't be serviceable? I'm not sure yet. He could be. But there's no past history to gauge this on. Only that he was a top pick almost 8 years ago. This isn't like Strasburg or Pineda coming up in their early 20's and dominating right away.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:13 PM) I mean if that's all we get out of him I'll take it. Cuz look at our 2005 bullpen... Exactly. It seems like I'm hating. I'm really not. Not this time. lol.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:09 PM) You can make the argument the other way though for most his career. I mean, he was the No. 3 overall pick for a reason. Luke Hochaver was the #1 pick and he sucks. Like I said, if you believe in pitcher peripherals, which I obviously do, then you can see Humber is not a true sub-.3.00 ERA, sub-1.00 WHIP caliber of pitcher. And the eye test works as well. It's not all about stats. But Humber is gettin' it done, be it luck or whatever. That's all that matters. For now, anyway.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:08 PM) Ah, so it is truly just an unsubstantiated opinion... not based in stats... I thought you had some sort of insight into his numbers that made you have that opinion. No, I could use stats as well. But do you believe in the stats? I know Hawk doesn't. Give him the guy with 15 wins and ERA over 5 over the guy with 8 wins and an ERA under 3.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:04 PM) I think they should shut him down for the rest of the season. See what happens in ST. Meanwhile, bring up Tank. That's not a realistic alternative.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 05:03 PM) How do you define "fluke" considering his performance to date in 2011? I'd like to know more behind your reasoning. His numbers belie his true talent level, IMO. But I'll take it for as long as he's performing.

I still think Humber is a complete fluke. But man, don't want to think about where we'd be without him.

QUOTE (Hollywood_AU @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 04:52 PM) This is honestly not hyperbole. Is Adam Dunn the worst "regular" in Major League Baseball? What can the Sox do with him? The money is already blown--the best thing for the team right now is simply for Dunn not to play. Well, and this is even when he's hitting...he offers nothing defensively and has no speed whatsoever. So yeah, .168 and a 43%+ k-rate puts him right in the discussion.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) Why is Dunn our 3 hitter again, exactly? I didn't think he had a prayer against Garza.

Like Balta said, I'd rather take the K. Still sucks that he's showing no signs of coming out of this season-long funk.

I've never ever doubted JP. But I think this last week or so has put an end to DV coming up before Sept 1.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 04:34 PM) lol she was my babysitter and basically a grandma to me. I saw her more than any of my grandparents. Just an awesome person, that's what I'm getting at. My parents are pretty good as well haha. Your grandma? WTF? lol. So she was a grilf? How old is she?

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 02:54 PM) Definitely not saying anyone is wrong because I love hearing different viewpoints on everything. Sorry if I made it sound that way. It's great knowing I can talk to many about situations like this. And part of it I think goes back to April when we first met. My Godmother passed away on a Tuesday morning in April and I was such a wreck that day. Couldn't believe I could cry that much but she was the most important and influential person in my life. Honestly trusted her more than anyone else and loved her more than my parents and friends. The one thing she always brought up was when I was going to bring a girl over for her to meet. Never got the chance but I went out that Tuesday night with a few friends just to get some normalcy in my life and ended up meeting this girl through a friend and we just hit it off. I'm sure it was just a coincidence but I was wanting to think that maybe this girl and I were brought together for a reason. Anways I know that was a dumb reason to think maybe this girl and I had a great future, but I thought it none the less. That's no good, bro. Even if everything had worked out. Never love a female more than your parents. Unless your parents really suck?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 04:24 PM) How many no hitters does Garza have in his career? None I would guess? One. Last year. Then again I think Wite threw one. There were so many.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 04:21 PM) Made solid contact for an out in the first, struck out in the 4th. First was probably decent, 2nd was sorta normal. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) He looked decent his first AB, his second he look like he had spent the early part of the day drinking 40s with you. Thanks, guys. At least Humber continues to make me his b****.

Just tuning in (had to assemble a damn Gazeebo for fireworks day). Has Dunn looked clueless? Decent at bats?