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QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 4, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) Isn't Bell under control for 2012 as well? That makes it a bit different than with Soriano. Nope. FA in '12.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Dec 4, 2010 -> 04:53 PM) You do realize that Rafael Soriano was traded for Jesse Chavez last year straight up. The same Jess Chavez who was then traded to the Royals for Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth, the same Jesse Chavez who owns a career 5.09 ERA in 145 IP. So if the Padres are going to get either Hudson or Flowers for Heath Bell....thats a freaking steal for them. Soriano shocked the Braves by accepting arbitration. They would've given him away. Had nothing to do with them thinking Jesse Chavez was a fair swap.

QUOTE (dielac @ Dec 4, 2010 -> 06:03 AM) Someone's delusional lol. I wasn't going to say anything. But yeah. Wite clearly won.

Big shock. The Red Sox are easily the favorites after they pull this off.

QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Dec 4, 2010 -> 12:02 AM) Sorry if this had been posted elsewhere, but I'm kinda drunk, and didnt see this elsewhere in my limited search of the site; anyways, per Rotoworld: SI.com's Jon Heyman reports that competing executives believe Paul Konerko "will surely stay" with the White Sox. The White Sox want Konerko back, and he doesn't want to go anywhere, so it's probably only a matter of time before something gets done. Heyman speculates that Paulie would get $13 million per season. Adam Dunn is now in the fold, but he's better off as a DH, anyway, with Konerko spending most of the time at first base. Dec. 3 - 11:57 pm et Source: Jon Heyman on Twitter $13 million a year? Wow. So anybody know where that would put the payroll?

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:38 PM) I don't mind Dunn being the DH but I can't believe how much the Sox overpaid for him. s***. When you consider that the Sox could get a much better hitter like Vlad Guerrero on a two or three year deal at $ 6-7 mil per or even Thome on a 1 year deal for $ 4-5 mil. and Thome's better at 41 than Dunn is at 31. There's just no way that Dunn as a DH and not even close to being one of the best hitters in baseball or even a valuable player should command $ 14 mil. per year. Pujols will get $ 25 mil. per and if he was only a DH he would get much less and he's three times the hitter. It's just a huge overpayment. And, now how do the Sox convince Konerko to take less money than Dunn when he is clearly a far better baseball player. Um, like, god damnit. I hate when a post is so bad that I don't even know how to respond to it. Oh well.

Meh, save a couple million and get a nothing prospect back. Not that big a deal to me. But I am glad Linebrink is gone.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 06:57 PM) Not to be a nitpicker cause I'm ready for ST to start tomorrow...but somebody could have buttoned the jersey up at the presser. You can't possibly be serious.

QUOTE (since56 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 06:43 PM) I believed the hype about Lee and his defense but I honestly just don't see it. Konerko is very good at recieving throws and handles pop ups well. He has an excellent arm, is sure handed but has limited range. Konerko has a better bat. It's all Paulie. Lee peaked in '03 against the cubs. I'll be forever grateful for that but I don't want him. Pena? Nope. Lee's best year by far was 2005 and he put up an OPS of .972 just two years ago.

You know Dunn is the s*** when Kalapse shows internet emotion.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) If you have ESPN Insider, this link was sent from the heavens. I won't paste the entire article, but I'll go ahead and hook you up with some of it. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=o...&id=5878412 So what you're saying is that Dunn is an upgrade from Kotsay?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:38 AM) I think the Reds would only do that move because we're giving up so much talent. They've got 3b and 1b and RF already covered, and they're doubly-covered at 1b (Votto and Hosmer) to the point that they have to move the 2nd one to the OF. It makes no sense for them to pick up another pair of guys who they can't play anywhere. Alonso

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 03:54 AM) I love the move but Adam Dunn wishes he was the hitter Thome was in 06. He has never had a season at the plate of that caliber. But hopefully fans appreciate him more than they did Thome. It is sad that Thome doesn't get more credit for being productive as he was with the Sox. I wouldn't sell him short. Especially if Ozzie is smart and uses him as the full time DH in our ballpark. But a .900+ OPS is a virtual certainty. I love this signing.

I'm stoked! And a little drunk. So bear with me. I've loved this guy since '03. He's one of those guys that you know will K a lot, but when he connects? Good god! It's like we're getting the '06 version of Jim Thome for the next 4 years. Thank you, Kenny/Jerry!

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:41 AM) Hasn't KW been rumored to be after Rafael Soriano? He'd be a great addition and with Sale, our bullpen would be pretty strong and as long as KW is back, the lineup would be as close to complete as possible without breaking the bank to get a new LF. Soriano would be a brutal addition at the money he will command. I've learned over the last few years that overpaying for relievers, even closers, is a recipe for disaster.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:17 AM) Not amazing at all. He was great. Do you think he'll be a Cub? No, they've got this guy named Marmol.

Not doing backflips. But with the combination of us not having anything close to a legitimate catching prospect and a weak catchers market I'm content. Though I wish it wasn't a two year deal.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:42 AM) The nice thing is there are several options at first base, some better than others, but still several solid choices to choose from. I would be very hesitant in the long run... which is the ultimate goal for any business/franchise. People are throwing around the idea of a large commitment to konerko, on top of two huge commitments to rios and dunn? The sox have one of the biggest question marks in the game with all things considered in peavy. Peavy is guaranteed 33 million over the next two years to be nothing more than what i already mentioned, a question mark. A smart move has to be made. A smart move, in my opinion, is not retaining a player at 10+ million for 3 years, given our situation. Floyd/ danks will eventually get paid, and get paid well, soon. Let's say quentin just so happens to tear the cover off the ball (one of the leagues bests) this up coming season. Unrealistic? Yes, probably. Beyond belief? No. But the man would be paid, and he would be paid by the white sox. These things have to be considered. There is a ton of money potentially locked up in only a select few. One or two more long term, extremely expensive contracts, over the next two seasons will be enough to cripple this team for many years to come. I see someone coming in on a one year deal, and there very well could/will be an option for a second year. If not, a straight up two year deal can not be written out of the equation for whoever is brought in. I'm not against what happened today, i'm all for it, but what people have to remember is there will always be three sides to every story ever told. You really needs to stop disappearing for months at a time.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 08:33 PM) Its pretty obvious he will be a primary DH, which is fine by me, you DO NOT want this guy in field more than the occasional start. You do want either Konerko or DLee to be your 1B. Interesting thing is for the price of Konerko (assume $12M) you can have DLee (assume $7M) and AJ or Putz (assume $5M). Which do you want. Dunn has no business in the field whatsoever unless we're playing in an NL park. But our manager is Ozzie Guillen.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 07:52 PM) The question is, at what cost? Especially if you can platoon Castro. I don't want to overpay AJ. But I sure as hell don't want Castro as our primary catcher. QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 07:53 PM) What? The man equaled HRs and got almost half of the RBIs and had a higher runners thrown out % in 1/4 of the at bats last year. You should know how flawed a stat RBI can be. And AJ's defense wasn't a problem last year. Ramon Castro is not an everyday catcher.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 07:43 PM) A.J. in 2008 - 504 AB .300 BA 13 HR 49 RBI .728 OPS 30 CS runners 23% R.C. in 2008 - 504 AB .219 BA 23 HR 81 RBI .699 OPS 33 CS runners 30 % (prorated to equal AB) A.J. in 2009 - 474 AB .270 BA 9 HR 56 RBI .688 OPS 27 CS runners 26% R.C. in 2009 - 474 AB .278 BA 33 HR 107 RBI .832 OPS 37 CS runners 28% (prorated to equal AB) Give me a break, knight. Prorated to equal ABs? AJ > Castro

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 07:20 PM) ESPN sucks. The "Lead" part of their crawl didn't mention Dunn going to the Sox, but it did advertise that the Yankees and Jeter had talked again! Oh, and the 2022 World Cup will be in Qatar. Imagine if the Red Sox or Yankees had signed Dunn? They'd have cancelled all other programming. I've said this about 47546464 times over the last two years. MLB Network is your very best baseball friend. There is no reason to watch ESPN anymore.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) Can't read all 34 pages, but this is a big deal. HUGE deal. If PK comes back too, there's no possible way for Ozzie to f*** this lineup up. The only glaring weak spot in it would be Teahen. It's amazing what one legitimate upgrade can do. I've basically been dubbed fathom part 2 the last few months. I haven't felt this good about the team in a while. And I'm about 90% sure PK is coming back. We're in MUCH better position now than we were just 3 days ago.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 06:57 PM) Carlos Pena. Seriously. I think last year was an outlier for him. I would easily go 2 years on Pena before Konerko. Carlos Pena would be more hated than Mark Kotsay around here.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 06:32 PM) PK was the second worst fielder on the Sox to Carlos Quentin. However bad his range is though, he is very consistent with balls he can actually get his glove on. Worse than Teahen?