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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) We're actually making valid points, not sitting here saying "frank sucks." That's a better argument that what most people are putting up here, which is "he hit the ball well in the mid 90's" Did 2003, 2004 and last year get erased from history? Nobody is saying he's the Frank he was in 1994. But, when healthy, he was still a major force. That's undeniable.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:14 PM) Or how about a certain someone saying they hoped that the Sox didn't make the playoffs. LOL. Yeah, I was definitely an idiot for saying that. That was just a knee jerk reaction to a horrible series in which I think we were swept by the Angels.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:07 PM) There is no sense arguing with "Frank Nation." They are all too blinded by what he did during his MVP seasons. Wait, that was a long ass time ago. 2003 .267/42/105/.390/.562/.952 2004 .271/18/49/.434/.563/.997 (Played in just 74 games) 2005 Let's keep in mind the guy had missed almost a year by the time he came back against the Angels. Still hits 12 bombs, including 4 game winners, in just over 100 at bats. Yeah, the guy has become a regular Rob Deer. He's just so done.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:02 PM) Many people have grown up with Frank being their favorite player for as long as they can remember, no matter what flies out of Franks mouth they will always love him. Not true about me. I've said atleast 600 times that Frank is no angel.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:00 PM) Everyone BOW down in front of the great Frank Thomas. You Thomas slurpers are comical. Maybe someone should start frankthomastalk.com And you fickle fans that want to act like a guy wasn't s*** because he unfortunately wasn't able to be part of a magical title run are even more comical. Will somebody please pull up some of the old "fire Kenny" threads from last September?

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:59 PM) That goes both ways. Explain?

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:58 PM) He was great this past year in the playoffs too. Let's kill the guy because he was hurt. That's classy.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:57 PM) Well, I've been getting nothing but compliments for KW for what he said. Baseball writers don't seem to be having a problem with this, either. That's because everyone is blinded by the World Series title. Kenny can do no wrong anymore.

I'd say Frank was pretty dominant in 2003. He was having a great 2004 as well. People need to get their s*** straight.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:55 PM) That was the one thing that he definitely should not have shared with the world. What about saying "my players" and "my staff" don't miss him and are glad to see him go? He speaks for everyone now?

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) Now you're just slurping steff!! Dude get off your kness already!!!!!! LOL. Steff > any girl I've ever known when it comes to knowledge about sports. If she wasn't married, she'd be mine.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:46 PM) And... how is that any of the rest of the world's business..? Sweet geezus.. I can not wait to get down to Arizona... I got your back.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) Given the relationship between him and Jerry.. IMO.. Jerry should have called. A message from Kenny saying "Yo Dog.. thanks for the memories.. see yaaa" was s***ty. God I love you Steff. That's all I'm saying. But I'm just "slurping" Frank according to some people.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:40 PM) He said that they lost a lot of the chemistry of the 2005 team and a few key guys (singling out Rowand and Duque). Didn't really say they had NO shot, just that you risk losing what got you there when you make too many changes. I believe the opposite to be true - standing pat rarely works. Changes were necessary and I think the Sox made the right changes. Frank's not the only one with that opinion. No big deal to me. I'm glad we didn't stand pat.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:37 PM) Well, he said that he wished they would have called earlier. Can you think of anything more awful? No, didn't think so. The nerve of that guy. What's he done to derseve something as simple as that? BOOOOO! YOU SUCK FRANK!

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:36 PM) He popped that off in one of his earlier interviews. He said that the Sox have no shot at the playoffs? I find that very hard to believe.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:34 PM) But according to Frank earlier, the Sox basically have no chance for the playoffs. They got rid of 9 guys. Link? Or are you being sarcastic?

QUOTE(KWs OK for Me @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:26 PM) If Juan Uribe maintains a .350 OBP he'll be more than just "fine". He'll be having an absolutely amazing season. Even in his best year so far in 2004 he didn't even crack .330 in OBP. I know that Uribe has improved his approach at the plate and hits better when given a job to do, but I just don't see him getting on base at a .350 clip. I think he'll be extremely productive at doing his job, whether its bunting Podsednik over (hopefully from 2nd to 3rd after a SB), hitting a sac fly, taking pitches to allow Podsednik to steal, but he won't draw enough walks to be a Luis Castillo type #2 hitter. I see Uribe hitting ~.280-.290 with a .330-.350 (at very best) OBP. I think that hitting behind Pods will allow him to see more fastballs which should raise his average, he might even flirt with .300 for some part of the season. I didn't say it wouold be easy. But I think it's doable.

Depends on what your definition of "trashed" is. I didn't take it that way at all. As far as booing Frank, it's pathetic and makes me sick. Just stay home when Oakland comes to town if Frank is just that god awful. Frank's beef is with Kenny and to a lesser degree Jerry. This isn't about the fans. Until Frank says something that can even be mistaken as negative about Sox fans, stay out of it. Frank should be applauded for what he did ON THE FIELD. That's all that matters in the end.

27 "productive" outs is very good considering where he was hitting in the lineup. He just needs to maintain a .350 obp. If he does that, he'll be just fine.

From what I know, this won't bother Minnie a bit.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 12:32 AM) Valido, Sweeney, Fields are prob only hitting prospects to seriously keep an eye on..... Don't forget Bucky.

Just finished watching Air Force One. Forgot how good that movie was. The main russian guy was outstanding.

I think I'm gonna cry. Whitesox baseball is back, baby!

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 10:01 PM) I think that's kind of the point, last years team will be remember for the way they meshed and the type of individuals on the team. Carlos, Maggs, Jose, Frank all the guys that composed those talented teams were gone and they won it. I realize that 2005 will always be sacred. I'm not disputing that. However, I don't look at particular players from 05 and rank them ahead of particular players pre 2005 simply because of a title.