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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) That is without Peavy's buyout and Floyds $9.5 million option. Interesting thought here. If Floyd is not traded before this season is over and he has a Gavin-like year (solid, nothing spectacular), do the Sox look to re-sign him? What kid of money could he expect?

Okay, let's say the Sox will aggressively pursue this guy, which seems likely. What's the most you'd like to see the Sox offer?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 01:01 PM) So you are saying KW purposely passed on significantly more value to make this particular trade? Because two "so-so minor league pitchers" is what KW got for Quentin as you said. If that isn't the true value of Quentin, then he must have passed on better trades right? That's what your saying? The reasons KW dealt Quentin are irrelevant to his value. He's worth what is right now because of his current abilities and expected production, not what players like Dunn & Rios are being paid. Your problem here has nothing to do with a lack of statistics, but simply not using basic logic to walk through the scenario. Quentin is worth very little due to his own doing and no one else's. Why is this so hard for you accept? Wow. I agree with every word of this post. Especially your mentioning that the salaries of Dunn and Rios have nothing to do with what the Sox received for Quentin. We all saw/heard what KW said when he was talking about wanting only major league talent for some players. And I think many of us realized that it wouldn't happen for every player traded. Quentin's value isn't nearly as high as some think. He has been injury-prone and just came off surgery. Aside from 2008 (when he hurt himself, anyway), he's been inconsistent. When he's good, he's good, no denying that. But his flashes of good haven't been as frequent as we'd like. Moving Quentin accomplished one thing first...freed up some money. If Castro pans out, great, it makes the trade even better.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 10:09 PM) Royals fans I talk to are amazed at the Quentin trade. They see it as a real player dealt for 2 lousy prospects. I don't know why you guys don't care to know the perception of the White Sox in Kansas City. The Sox are currently seen as a joke. The Quentin trade is the latest head-scratcher. I had several people ask me if Sox fans were furious. I said, "Not the ones I know. They love the trade. They hate Quentin and love whenever we get guys with no track record. Our fans love the unknown." They are AMAZED we gave Quentin away for nothing. They asked me if I was upset at the trade. I said of course I was. It would be easy to go along with other responses and say, "worst.post.ever.", but I'll point out the few things that make it a less than good post. First, who cares what Royals fans think? And I really don't think the Sox are thought of as a joke in KC Second, very few people on this board hate Quentin. Most I think like the guy but recognize that he's streaky and injury-prone. Third, Quentin wasn't given away for nothing. Time will tell, but Castro is viewed as a decent prospect with a lot of potential. With one of the best pitching coaches in the league here and Castro's past success, I feel pretty good about it. Finally, just an observation, as I haven't really said much about the Quentin trade yet. I like Quentin, but I was certain he was going to be traded. I think the return was adequate, and if Castro ends up being the guy he could be, the trade will look very nice...especially if (when) Carlos misses 30+ games this season with an injury or two or six.

Took the family to see Adventures of TinTin on Christmas Eve. As it went on, I was thinking my kids (10, 9, and 6) might not get it. But they loved it and talk about it all the time. I enjoyed it, too. I talked them out of Alvin and the Chipmunks.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 10:10 AM) Shameless Sunday. This season takes place in the summer, so that means Emmy Rossum will be wearing less clothes.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 12:21 PM) You don't need to tell people that you aren't playing... I'll say I'm not playing, but I look forward to seeing the list. I don't listen to a lot of new music, but I'd like to get some ideas of new music for me to listen to.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 1, 2012 -> 08:48 PM) My wife and I are really loving Once Upon a Time. I actually enjoying it, too. I wasn't going to watch it but decided at the last minute to DVR it. Good choice. It's not high quality TV, but it keeps me entertained. Grimm isn't too bad, either. I was hoping for a bit more with the show, but like Once Upon A Time it keeps me entertained.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 09:22 PM) I confess that I don't know much about this guy, other than seeing a few youtube videos...but it's not going to look good to fans if we let Mark walk and then pay Cespedes all his money Regardless of whether it was the correct thing to do... I would argue that the money not spent by not signing Mark was spent by signing Danks. But I see your point, as some fans may think that. Signing Cespedes (if it even happens) would be a move strictly for the future. If he is signed, it makes the possibility of Quentin being traded even more of a probability.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 10:26 AM) PEople keep posting this, but it's quite obvious that the postal service is in the decline and will eventually be insolvent. And ask UPS how that makes them feel. They quite often push local deliveries onto USPS. For all the "private companies are awesome!" ideas that are thrown around mail delivery, I think they underestimate how the USPS takes on the most expensive deliveries, rural and local. But i am excited for junk mail to die. I can't keep up with it. Interesting that you bring this up. I sent a few packages from Amazon to my parents for Christmas, and they were sent UPS. However, when I checked the tracking, it said the packages were transferred to USPS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 11:21 AM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/olne..._medium=twitter Makes sense. I think in the long run this move will be good for the Sox. I believe Danks at an average of $13 million per is a good deal. I was thinking he'd get upwards of $16 million+ per after 2012...and after he was traded from the Sox.

QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 08:38 AM) I tossed a priority mail envelope in the package slot at my local post office. Problem is I forgot to address the envelope. No return address, no ''to'' address, nothing. And nothing on the inside either. I called the next day and an employee waded through all priority mail envelopes until he found it. He correctly addressed the envelope for me and sent it on it's way. I have way more positive stories of the USPS than negative. That's encouraging. I've heard very few positive stories. I know there are good people who work for the USPS, but I think it's the bad ones that everyone remembers and thereby associates with the USPS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 08:13 AM) He did not have a contract for 2012 yet, so it would almost have to start with next season and span 2012 to 2016. Was 2012 an arb year for him? I wasn't sure it was an option year or an arb year.

The FedEx guy throwing the monitor over a fence as a way of "delivery" has taken center-stage of late, but I would imagine many have had more issues with the post office and the USPS in general. I read a thread on Facebook yesterday about experiences with the USPS, and I can see why they're in financial trouble. The USPS has always had a bad reputation for customer service, and although some of it is exaggerated I've had my share of bad experiences with them. Most recently, I had ordered an iPod Touch from eBay, and the delivery person couldn't leave the package at my door without a signature. Which is fine, that's what the sender wanted. The carrier left a note saying to go to the web site and arrange to pick up the package from the post office. I did that the next day, and I was given a number which the website stated I MUST have in order to pick up the package. At the post office, however, when I gave the less than friendly person behind the counter the number, she huffed and said that the number doesn't mean anything to them. I explained that I was given the number by their website, but she said it doesn't mean anything to them at the post office. Luckily I had my phone with me and was able to get the tracking number. It's experiences like this that are pushing people to use other carriers or to use stores like Mailboxes, Etc. to send stuff. Anybody have any good stories about the USPS or any other carrier for that matter?

I suppose we won't know until the details are released, but Danks' extension begins with the 2012 season? Or is the five years after that?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 11:52 PM) I can't believe I stuck through the entire season of American Horror Story. My god that show is terrible. I really enjoying it. I'm a few episodes behind though. This is the type of show that people either love or hate. I love it. Creepy is the best word I can think of to describe it. There are some "scary" moments, but more than anything it makes me uneasy.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 21, 2011 -> 09:22 PM) Count me in the "I seriously was caught totally off-guard by this" group. I'm a member of this group, too.

I really don't think he'll be traded now. This is a very reasonable contract for a guy like Danks. I truly expected him to be getting $16+ million per after being traded. Now of course it looks like the Sox are not rebuilding.

Hopefully this is true. I never truly bought into KW saying they were going to rebuild. No maybe it was his plan at one time, and since then he's found he can't get what he wants for Danks (at least). I imagine he had several plans based on what he could do with Danks, Floyd, Quentin, etc. I do hope, however, that there is another deal or two. I think Quentin can be dealt, but I wonder if he can bring back a decent prospect.

Very reasonable contract if it's true. Less per year than Buehrle got, and Danks is younger.

It'll be interesting to see if this rumor is true. I'm not against signing Danks to an extension at all. However, it would be confusing and basically be saying that the Sox are NOT rebuilding.

QUOTE (Nunnigan @ Dec 20, 2011 -> 12:36 PM) Good to see Pennywise on the list. He terrified me as a kid I'm surprised and happy to see Pennywise on so many lists.

Floyd could be a good fit for the Pirates. He's relatively inexpensive, and they seem like they're going to try to contend (at least more so than in the past). Both Marte and Moskos are intriguing, but it seems like Marte might have a higher upside.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 07:53 AM) If there was any worry out there... VizquelOmar13 Omar Vizquel No I won't RT @Kmart0307: @VizquelOmar13 Omar! Are you coming back to the #WhiteSox next season?! I think you should! VizquelOmar13 Omar Vizquel Believe it RT @baseballpat54: @VizquelOmar13 do you plan on playing baseball next season? How long before the Marlins sign him?

What do the Nationals have in the way of prospects? Anybody that would be a nice get for Danks?