southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Home run of a write up by Barry Rozner http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120123/sports/701239691 Guillen quit on Sox long time ago Former White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen is ‘a dimwit without a cause' who quit on his team in 2010, according to columnist Barry Rozner. Ozzie Guillen's regression is nearly complete. Not sure if he was ever an adult. Not certain if he ever grasped what it takes to lead men by doing his job to the best of his ability at all times. Not clear if he ever understood taking responsibility for his actions. But whatever he was in age or mindset, he began moving in the opposite direction two years ago, and he now has the emotional stability of a first-grader. It would not be shocking if next he stuck out his tongue and yelled, “Yeah, well my dad could beat up your dad.” This is where 48-year-old Ozzie Guillen is today. He views the world as his playground, and anyone who tries to use his teeter-totter gets a verbal smack down. He is the recess bully, one who can dish it out but cries like a baby when anyone takes a step in his direction. He is allowed to deceive, contort and promote his side of the story in any fashion he desires, using Joey Cora, his children and those who carry his water to spread his malice. But should anyone dare to stick up for themselves or attempt to set the record straight, Guillen squeals as if someone has stolen his tiny cup of apple juice, and vows to scorch the soil beneath him. Any minute now the next target will be Jake Peavy, who told the Score's Chris Rongey recently that Guillen quit on the White Sox with games still on the schedule in 2011. Peavy, who was told by Sox brass to call an early end to his 2011 season, was merely defending himself against the Guillen apologists, but that's not playing by the Guillen rules of engagement, which allow for Guillen to use cannons and his opponents only wine and scented candles. Guillen has already threatened Peavy via Twitter and soon will come his response, all barrels blazing. With full knowledge that a barrage was imminent, White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf tried to head off the conflict by issuing a statement Monday, saying, “I want to make it clear that he left with our organization's blessing and at my urging. “Ozzie told me he wanted to finish out the year, the Marlins really wanted him in Miami for the conclusion of the season, and I told him that he had no choice but to go ... Ozzie needed to be in Miami at the end of the season for the Marlins.” It was smart for Reinsdorf to offer an olive branch, knowing Guillen's napalm capability, but it doesn't change the simple fact that Guillen wanted out and he departed early. With a year left on his contract, Guillen nevertheless knew months ahead of time he had a deal in Florida and he couldn't wait to leave the White Sox. In other words, he quit. Where Peavy is wrong is in saying Guillen quit on the White Sox at the end of 2011. Ozzie Guillen actually quit on the White Sox in 2010. So angry was he that the Sox wouldn't allow Guillen or his children to have free rein and act like complete fools 24 hours a day, Guillen took his ball and went home. Wah, wah, wah. He stopped managing 18 months before he actually walked out on the team, and the result was ugly, but you'll never hear that from Guillen, his boys, Cora or the family sycophants. All Guillen critics are wrong, be they former players, opposing managers or nuclear physicists. Only Guillen is ever right. So now Guillen insists he will target Peavy and all who dare tell the truth about him. Blah, blah, blah. My position has always been that Guillen was once a great manager, and that he should be remembered fondly in Chicago for years like 2008, when he got more from less than at any point in his South Side tenure. I have repeatedly said that since he is the only manager to win a World Series in the last 200 years of combined Chicago baseball, he should also occupy a special place in the hearts of White Sox fans. I believe the good times should be remembered, rather than the screeching blackboard of the last few years. But it's becoming more difficult to make that case. Guillen has spent all his goodwill and exhausted his emotional capital. He has become a clown in the eyes of even his most ardent supporters and only those with an agenda can possibly defend his infantile behavior. Unfortunately, there will always be those — like the coaches who caddie for him — who have a stake in Guillen, whether financially or otherwise, and they will always give voice to Guillen's babble, putting blade to back whenever possible. But the reality is fewer and fewer are listening, fewer and fewer bat an eye. Today, Ozzie Guillen is a dimwit without a cause. Sadly, someday, when he has finally burned every bridge and milked every dollar from anyone willing to pay him, he will also be an actor without an audience. • Hear Barry Rozner on WSCR 670-AM and follow him @BarryRozner on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 OMGZZZ!!!! ROZNER SAID OZZIE QUIT! BOO YA TO THE HATERZ! THE HATERZ OWE SOXTALK AN APOLOGY! YEAH!!! *fistpump* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Dayummmmmmmmm. Barry f***ing Rozner. That. Was. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 JR's statement denying Guillen quit on the team was really just a dressed up confirmation of exactly the opposite that he probably hopes tricks Guillen into STFU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 A long high-pitched wail was just heard coming from Kansas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 08:26 AM) A long high-pitched wail was just heard coming from Kansas. And from the Sun Times building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 08:26 AM) A long high-pitched wail was just heard coming from Kansas. I picture the end scene of Star Wars Episode 3 with Vader standing up and yelling "NOOOOOO" If I wasnt at work, I would find that .gif and post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 TRUTH. It takes a brave man to state the truth about Ozzie because Rozner will now face an tantrum of some sort. Ozzie is a -7 WAR manager the past few years. The Sox will be more fun to watch this year and I would not count them out in the division. This will be a new team with new leaders under Ventura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Anybody with half a brain knew all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Guillen has spent all his goodwill and exhausted his emotional capital. He has become a clown in the eyes of even his most ardent supporters and only those with an agenda can possibly defend his infantile behavior. I think this is the most accurate and eloquent statement I have seen to date in regards to events that have occurred over the past two years. It sums up exactly how I feel about Ozzie. Edited January 25, 2012 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 08:59 AM) I think this is the most accurate and eloquent statement I have seen to date in regards to events that have occurred over the past two years. It sums up exactly how I feel about Ozzie. hmmm, wonder who has the agenda..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 My position has always been that Guillen was once a great manager, and that he should be remembered fondly in Chicago for years like 2008, when he got more from less than at any point in his South Side tenure. I have repeatedly said that since he is the only manager to win a World Series in the last 200 years of combined Chicago baseball, he should also occupy a special place in the hearts of White Sox fans. I believe the good times should be remembered, rather than the screeching blackboard of the last few years. But it's becoming more difficult to make that case. Guillen has spent all his goodwill and exhausted his emotional capital. He has become a clown in the eyes of even his most ardent supporters and only those with an agenda can possibly defend his infantile behavior. Well said, Barry. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The joke is on us as White Sox fans, who continued to pay our hard-earned money to watch games in 2010 and 2011. Also, it's hard to blame everything on Ozzie, as the players KW gave him sucked. It was s*** from top to bottom. Never have I been less excited for a season to start. I will, however, be sure to attend 5/26 for my Robin bobblehead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 08:56 AM) Anybody with half a brain knew all of this. I would like to state that myself and Milkman were the first to post on this site, sometime around May 2011, that Ozzie was not trying to win anymore. We were called idiots for a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) I would like to state that myself and Milkman were the first to post on this site, sometime around May 2011, that Ozzie was not trying to win anymore. We were called idiots for a month or two. The issue is that JR did not believe OG was not trying ot to win. In the end guillen f***ed Reinsdorf more than anyone as that is who loses the most. If the players realized guillen quit on the team how easy is for them to quit as well. This is why I think we will see a vastly differnt team this year and why reinsdorf kept Williams around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Well-said. This is exactly how I feel about Ozzie. I used to LOVE him until he bought a pass to ride the short bus some time about a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 10:07 AM) The joke is on us as White Sox fans, who continued to pay our hard-earned money to watch games in 2010 and 2011. Also, it's hard to blame everything on Ozzie, as the players KW gave him sucked. It was s*** from top to bottom. Never have I been less excited for a season to start. I will, however, be sure to attend 5/26 for my Robin bobblehead! Paying hard-earned money to watch your favorite team play a sport you enjoy does not per se imply any support of Ozzie Guillen or a FO or even the particular players on the team. While I do believe in "putting my money where my mouth is" and "hitting them where it hurts" when it comes to supporting or not supporting an organization, I'm not going to let one or two people ruin my enjoyment of my favorite sport and the Summer pastime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 What made Ozzie effective as a leader (taking the attention, letting his players just have to play) is as expected awful in the divorce. Lets just leave it as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyburger Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:09 AM) Home run of a write up by Barry Rozner http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120123/sports/701239691 I approve of this opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 10:08 AM) I would like to state that myself and Milkman were the first to post on this site, sometime around May 2011, that Ozzie was not trying to win anymore. We were called idiots for a month or two. You guys were, are, and will continue to be called idiots for far larger reasons than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) I would like to state that myself and Milkman were the first to post on this site, sometime around May 2011, that Ozzie was not trying to win anymore. We were called idiots for a month or two. wait, why is this different from other months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) You guys were, are, and will continue to be called idiots for far larger reasons than that... LOL DAMMIT YOU BEAT ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 10:16 AM) LOL DAMMIT YOU BEAT ME Great minds, my friend, great minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) You guys were, are, and will continue to be called idiots for far larger reasons than that... QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:15 AM) wait, why is this different from other months? Even a blind squirrel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Even if you agree with Rozner's sentiments, and dislike Cowley heavily, it probably still needs to be said that Rozner's article lacks meat. Not really loads of supporting evidence here for his claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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